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Old 11-30-2004, 02:36 PM   #151
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Old 11-30-2004, 02:36 PM   #152
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sure.. they never miss an opportunity to kiss an ass... The bigger the better...
Point out where in this thread I was kissing ass?

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Old 11-30-2004, 02:42 PM   #153
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xlogger, I think your sig and your math might have something to do with each other. Drugs are bad, mmmmmmmkay?





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Old 11-30-2004, 02:43 PM   #154
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I want to play!!! I want to play!!!

Weeeee this is fun!!!
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Old 11-30-2004, 02:46 PM   #155
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Old 11-30-2004, 02:52 PM   #156
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sure.. they never miss an opportunity to kiss an ass... The bigger the better...
Ah. I thought I detected the sarcasm.

I have no need to kiss Ron's ass.

I do, however, enjoy watching all the 'business' people talk out of THEIR asses.
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Old 11-30-2004, 02:56 PM   #157
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Show of hands, how many people send their traffic to this "Adware" program willingly?
Come on, this program is so legit, surely SOMEONE must be willing to admit they send their surfers to it.
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:03 PM   #158
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Come on, this program is so legit, surely SOMEONE must be willing to admit they send their surfers to it.
They have NEVER marketed it to ANYONE here!

I know a guy who does a HUGE mainstream internet biz who used to be in adult and he doesn't get any traffic from anyone on this board either. He's never tried to! Ooooh! He must be a scammer then, lol!
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The high school loser, nerd factor in this thread is reaching a critical level.
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:11 PM   #160
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They have NEVER marketed it to ANYONE here!

I know a guy who does a HUGE mainstream internet biz who used to be in adult and he doesn't get any traffic from anyone on this board either. He's never tried to! Ooooh! He must be a scammer then, lol!
What the fuck are you talking about?

All these people continuously step up to Ron's defense because he's such a "great guy", I'd like to see if one of them is willing to admit they send their surfers to this "adware". I'm not questioning the fact that it makes money for him.
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:39 PM   #161
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What the fuck are you talking about?

All these people continuously step up to Ron's defense because he's such a "great guy", I'd like to see if one of them is willing to admit they send their surfers to this "adware". I'm not questioning the fact that it makes money for him.

They have NEVER marketed it to ANYONE here!

It's rather simple what she is saying!!!
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:42 PM   #162
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They have NEVER marketed it to ANYONE here!

It's rather simple what she is saying!!!

and? ? does that mean no one who promotes it posts here? ?



coca cola was NEVER marketed to me here! ! yet I drink it AND post here !!!
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:45 PM   #163
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They have NEVER marketed it to ANYONE here!

It's rather simple what she is saying!!!
When did I say he did? God damn do you people have trouble reading?

I'm just asking if any of the asskissers here actually promote his shit, or are just asskissers. Just because he doesn't advertise here doesn't mean he no one who posts here is an affiliate of his, does it?

I guess the answer is no, none of the people who stand up for him blindly are willing to send their surfers to his scumware. You're certainly willing to berate anyone who dares questions him though.
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coca cola was NEVER marketed to me here! ! yet I drink it AND post here !!!
Thank you.
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When did I say he did? God damn do you people have trouble reading?

I'm just asking if any of the asskissers here actually promote his shit, or are just asskissers. Just because he doesn't advertise here doesn't mean he no one who posts here is an affiliate of his, does it?

I guess the answer is no, none of the people who stand up for him blindly are willing to send their surfers to his scumware. You're certainly willing to berate anyone who dares questions him though.
I don't promote that one program because as I said before, it's never been marketed to the adult community. I also don't promote the thousands of other non-adult and adult programs NOT run by 12Clicks that I don't know about.

I DO promote and have promoted several of his other programs for many years and have never once had a problem.

He really must suck as a thief if he's always paying people what he owes them and paying on time!
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what happened with mojosearch is well documented.
We were years ahead of the curve regarding webmaster fraud. we caught you when others weren't.
of course some theives were bitter, of course they posted, of course it never mattered, just as this thread doesn't
I happen to know someone that started in ths business the exact same time I did, that managed to scam Mojo Search for a few grand. Before Mojo paid on click throughs, this guy was popping pre entered search terms through an exit console.

I remember him showing me his stats, he made like $70 in November, then $2000 in December ... An no, you never caught him either. So I guess you weren't that good ;)
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I don't promote that one program because as I said before, it's never been marketed to the adult community. I also don't promote the thousands of other non-adult and adult programs NOT run by 12Clicks that I don't know about.

I DO promote and have promoted several of his other programs for many years and have never once had a problem.

He really must suck as a thief if he's always paying people what he owes them and paying on time!
Are you seriously this dense? This is about scumware, that's how he's stealing from people. Should I make cliff notes for you or do you just start typing gibberish as soon as anyone mentions 12dicks?

Remove your head from his ass for 10 minutes and read the posts you're quoting.
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I happen to know someone that started in ths business the exact same time I did, that managed to scam Mojo Search for a few grand. Before Mojo paid on click throughs, this guy was popping pre entered search terms through an exit console.

I remember him showing me his stats, he made like $70 in November, then $2000 in December ... An no, you never caught him either. So I guess you weren't that good ;)
He doesn't actually catch cheaters, 12clicks' "advanced fraud protection" means shaving everyone and not paying foreign affiliates who aren't well known.
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Old 11-30-2004, 05:09 PM   #170
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If he isn't changing your affiliate code then he isn't stealing. Ever went to a grocery store and bought a Pepsi 12 pack of soda and a coupon was spit out of the register for a Coke product? It is called marketing. Has been going on for quite a long time now.
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I'm very much against spyware, however, adware is a tool and sure it's annoying, but as long as someone can remove it and have it not blow up their system, whatever floats your boat. We all use tools that were once considered over the top. Do you remember when people were screaming that popup consoles were unethical? Wait, I seem to recall SP2 blocking those.. If you're going to take such a strong stand against AdWare, I think you should be talking shit about popups too, no?
and what about dialers use to be a no no, how many sponsors use them now?
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I'm very much against spyware, however, adware is a tool and sure it's annoying, but as long as someone can remove it and have it not blow up their system, whatever floats your boat. We all use tools that were once considered over the top. Do you remember when people were screaming that popup consoles were unethical? Wait, I seem to recall SP2 blocking those.. If you're going to take such a strong stand against AdWare, I think you should be talking shit about popups too, no?

Jact I think what the original complaint was is 12clicks program is poping competitors pop ups on pages where we send traffic. So if you send the infected user to a certain dating site trying to get a sale. 12clicks program was poping other dating sites with someone else's ref codes trying to steal the sale.

I don't know if he is doing it but that is the complaint from what I see. That is a bunch of shit and I can't believe anyone would stick up for a company doing this kind of thing. I would like to see it proven one way or the other..

Also in reguards to someone posting about laws in reguards to this. I do remember a case about a year or two ago about this very issue. I forget who it was but I think they won. (was a spyware company poping competitors pop ups on some webpage)
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Right here it is .. it was Gator that was sued

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-940072.html?tag=fd_top
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Old 11-30-2004, 05:58 PM   #174
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All i know is 12clicks is a rich bitch. I wish i had some of money and know how
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If he isn't changing your affiliate code then he isn't stealing. Ever went to a grocery store and bought a Pepsi 12 pack of soda and a coupon was spit out of the register for a Coke product? It is called marketing. Has been going on for quite a long time now.
you're one to talk, weren't you just busted stealing a tgp template?

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and? ? does that mean no one who promotes it posts here? ?



coca cola was NEVER marketed to me here! ! yet I drink it AND post here !!!
Thats a good point lol
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Thats a good point lol
Only if 12Clicks had spent billions in advertising where members of this board would see it.

If you'd never heard of a Coke, I daresay you'd never be drinking one
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Old 11-30-2004, 09:11 PM   #178
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maybe 12 clicks is just misunderstood....
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Only if 12Clicks had spent billions in advertising where members of this board would see it.

If you'd never heard of a Coke, I daresay you'd never be drinking one
You're really embarrassing yourself at this point, your point was worthless and was torn apart by a simple logic test, get over it and stop making yourself look more dense.

Go stick your head up 12dicks' ass in another thread.
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Old 12-01-2004, 12:01 PM   #181
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agreed


I think he's got coffee running through the pipes in his house and office...

he's been churning out cash makers for a few years now...

my favorite was still Raw Like Sushi....that was one funny ass name...
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Old 12-01-2004, 12:36 PM   #183
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You're really embarrassing yourself at this point, your point was worthless and was torn apart by a simple logic test, get over it and stop making yourself look more dense.

Go stick your head up 12dicks' ass in another thread.
I'll use this moron's post to make my point.

Our popup program is not for for adult sites.
In fact, its clearly spelled out in the TOS that adult sites are forbidden.

You see chump, its a mainstream program. If you had a business of any sort, you'd have a better understanding of the internet.
so its kinda unlikely that people here use a mainstream pop program.
but you keep trying child. one day you'll nip at my heels without getting kicked in the teeth.
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You're really embarrassing yourself at this point, your point was worthless and was torn apart by a simple logic test, get over it and stop making yourself look more dense.

Go stick your head up 12dicks' ass in another thread.
Actually, my point was proven by you and others: If you don't know about a program, you can't promote it.

Unless you have some kind of ESP where you can sell things you've never heard of? Do you have an affiliate program for it?
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Right here it is .. it was Gator that was sued

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-940072.html?tag=fd_top
Damn you scared me for a minute until I clicked the link. I hate that company for using that name. In case you're currious I use the name GATOR because I'm a fan of UF.
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Actually, my point was proven by you and others: If you don't know about a program, you can't promote it.

Unless you have some kind of ESP where you can sell things you've never heard of? Do you have an affiliate program for it?
God damn it, you'll just never get it, I don't know why I'm trying. Obviously the people who defend 12dicks know about his program, right? So then, there's a chance they promote it, right? Right? Right? Fucking understand what I'm saying yet? ESP? I know about the program in question, so does the guy who started the thread, so SHOULD anyone who's standing up for it. I'm not asking if a ton of people use it, I'm asking if one of you God damn asskissers actually uses the program in question, or if you're all just asskissing out of habbit.
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I'll use this moron's post to make my point.

Our popup program is not for for adult sites.
In fact, its clearly spelled out in the TOS that adult sites are forbidden.

You see chump, its a mainstream program. If you had a business of any sort, you'd have a better understanding of the internet.
so its kinda unlikely that people here use a mainstream pop program.
but you keep trying child. one day you'll nip at my heels without getting kicked in the teeth.

That almost makes sense. Too bad plenty of people here run mainstream sites as well, just like you big shot. At least it's good to know that despite the asskissers, very few (if any) people here would subject their surfers to your kind of pathetic, desperate scumware.
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That almost makes sense. Too bad plenty of people here run mainstream sites as well, just like you big shot. At least it's good to know that despite the asskissers, very few (if any) people here would subject their surfers to your kind of pathetic, desperate scumware.
you back pedal any faster, the chain's going to fall off of you bike.
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I am investigating this right now..

If for one second i feel you or anyone else is stealing my traffic, you will have alot more to be worried about than the loss of cash..

Adware is a legit business strategy , stealing from me is a lifetime of problems.

Rotating Popups are one thing, Serving competition ads by monitoring users browsing is illegal. If these effect any sites i promote or offer, you have big big problems..
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I am investigating this right now..

If for one second i feel you or anyone else is stealing my traffic, you will have alot more to be worried about than the loss of cash..

Adware is a legit business strategy , stealing from me is a lifetime of problems.

Rotating Popups are one thing, Serving competition ads by monitoring users browsing is illegal. If these effect any sites i promote or offer, you have big big problems..

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How the fuck is that backpedaling? Do you even understand what you're talking about or do you just copy insults from somewhere else?

This who thread I've said you're a pathetic scammer who can't make money legitimately, so he has to use scumware. I've also said that out of all these asskissers, no one is willing to admit they send any traffic to your scam program. I'm right on both counts, and there certainly hasn't been any "backpedaling".
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How the fuck is that backpedaling? Do you even understand what you're talking about or do you just copy insults from somewhere else?

This who thread I've said you're a pathetic scammer who can't make money legitimately, so he has to use scumware. I've also said that out of all these asskissers, no one is willing to admit they send any traffic to your scam program. I'm right on both counts, and there certainly hasn't been any "backpedaling".
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:36 PM   #194
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:37 PM   #195
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:46 PM   #196
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I am investigating this right now..

If for one second i feel you or anyone else is stealing my traffic, you will have alot more to be worried about than the loss of cash..

Adware is a legit business strategy , stealing from me is a lifetime of problems.

Rotating Popups are one thing, Serving competition ads by monitoring users browsing is illegal. If these effect any sites i promote or offer, you have big big problems..
I'd have thought you'd be smarter than to be gulled by a moron.
if the search function worked, you'd see this moron makes this type thread ever time he has a day off.
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Old 12-01-2004, 02:03 PM   #197
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i knew 12 clicks was a scammer in 99
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Old 12-01-2004, 02:10 PM   #198
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odd how one of us is still working under the same name and one of us had to re-invent himself in may of this year.
what name did you used to go by, thief.
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Old 12-01-2004, 02:16 PM   #199
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I'm laughing at a blog/se spammer and script kiddy threatening 12clicks.

I agree with what you said but the way you said it was funny as hell coming form you.
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