Ron AKA 12Clicks is STEALING your money - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

jact · 11-30-2004, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
A) You see that first link I posted. Said something about TRACKING. Isn't that like SPYING?

B) Anyone here want some ADWARE on their computers? Anyone...anyone?

If tracking someone makes it spyware, then definitely don't send any traffic to sponsors that TRACK surfers. My oh my!

GatorB · 11-30-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by modF
You dumbass, that first link was about a "tracking"' cookie. How do you think most sponsors on the internet pay their affilaites?

Hey FUCKTARD if that's all it was how come it's on a SPYWARE WATCH LIST? Also FUCKTARD read the link from HIS OWN BOARD. Even his own affiliates are telling him to stop the SPYWARE crap. One more thing FUCKTARD, you're IGNORED!

GatorB · 11-30-2004, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by jact
If tracking someone makes it spyware, then definitely don't send any traffic to sponsors that TRACK surfers. My oh my!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...re&btnG=Search

Returns 644 results. Hmmmmmmmmmm

Kimmykim · 11-30-2004, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
I want to play!!! I want to play!!!

Weeeee this is fun!!!

Me too!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-30-2004, 12:48 PM

This is GFY...

The one place where a person can post pics of him getting beatin with a bat and his wallet stolen and it wouldnt be proof enough to the audience

Mojo · 11-30-2004, 12:53 PM

The largest ad company is Fastclick...

Hmmm....3600 results.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...%22%2C+spyware

Advertising.com Yikes! 8880 results!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...re&btnG=Search

The largest adware/screensaver company is Freeze.com. Freeze is one of Yahoo!'s largest advertisers. The run all the ads with the fish and Christmas animated screensavers you've seen pretty much everywhere.

If you want to say that PopUpTraffic is "spyware" than you would also need to conclude that Yahoo! and Google is "spyware" as well. http://www.google.com/search?source...q=screen+savers

Please, if you don't know the difference between adware and spyware you really shouldn't call yourself a webmaster. But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

candyflip · 11-30-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by The Bootyologist
that's bullshit.

12clicks wont respond on the claims only on the poster's hobbies and character

Would you expect anything less from 12clicks?

You child.

candyflip · 11-30-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
This is GFY...

The one place where a person can post pics of him getting beatin with a bat and his wallet stolen and it wouldnt be proof enough to the audience

Ain't that the fucking truth.

- Jesus Christ - · 11-30-2004, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Mojo
The largest ad company is Fastclick...

Hmmm....3600 results.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...%22%2C+spyware

Advertising.com Yikes! 8880 results!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...re&btnG=Search

The largest adware/screensaver company is Freeze.com. Freeze is one of Yahoo!'s largest advertisers. The run all the ads with the fish and Christmas animated screensavers you've seen pretty much everywhere.

If you want to say that PopUpTraffic is "spyware" than you would also need to conclude that Yahoo! and Google is "spyware" as well. http://www.google.com/search?source...q=screen+savers

Please, if you don't know the difference between adware and spyware you really shouldn't call yourself a webmaster. But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

Uh google result #'s don't mean shit... READ some of the pages.

GatorB · 11-30-2004, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Mojo

Please, if you don't know the difference between adware and spyware you really shouldn't call yourself a webmaster. But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

So you LIKE ADWARE on your compter? You ALLOW adware on your computer. Do you ever REMOVE adware from your computer? If so WHY, if it's a prefectly legal and ok thing to put on someone's computer. Ahhh HYPOCRITES. Got to love 'em.

GatorB · 11-30-2004, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Uh google result #'s don't mean shit... READ some of the pages.

Oh you mean like the one's from SI own mesageboard where affiliates are BEGGING him to stop using SPYWARE? You mean pages like that?

tranza · 11-30-2004, 01:05 PM

12Clicks is a fucking scammer since the times of Mojosearch. Just ask around and see how many webmasters he pissed with that little program of his.

I'm still waiting for my check.

Now you can call me a troll, you fucking looser.

jact · 11-30-2004, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
12Clicks is a fucking scammer since the times of Mojosearch. Just ask around and see how many webmasters he pissed with that little program of his.

I'm still waiting for my check.

Now you can call me a troll, you fucking looser.

I was starting to give you a lot more credit then this, tranza.

The Bootyologist · 11-30-2004, 01:09 PM

hey jact so are you admitting yes he does it and it's okay OR no it's not true and spyware adware is not okay

jact · 11-30-2004, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by The Bootyologist
hey jact so are you admitting yes he does it and it's okay OR no it's not true and spyware adware is not okay

I'm very much against spyware, however, adware is a tool and sure it's annoying, but as long as someone can remove it and have it not blow up their system, whatever floats your boat. We all use tools that were once considered over the top. Do you remember when people were screaming that popup consoles were unethical? Wait, I seem to recall SP2 blocking those.. If you're going to take such a strong stand against AdWare, I think you should be talking shit about popups too, no?

check · 11-30-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
So glad I had 12clicks on IGNORE

Anyways yes popuptraffic as well clickthrutrffic, allclicks, bulkclicks, searchtraffic and textlink are all owend by Standard Internet. they also use to run mojosearch. Is that even still around?

Add all to my "hell sponsor lists"
thanks

keyboard warrior · 11-30-2004, 01:15 PM

I Hate spyware!~

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-30-2004, 01:17 PM

Spin, spin spin...

I wanna read more about the Affilaite ID swapping.

Gonna go and fry up some egg's and turkey sausage.

tranza · 11-30-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by jact
I was starting to give you a lot more credit then this, tranza.

Well, jact I know that the search is down here at GFY but I remember when I complained about not being paid I saw at least 5-10 people saying the same thing.

I remeber I got a few replies saying: "been there, done that".

Mojosearch riped some webmasters, why can't I complain?

I'm not discussing what you guys are saying about spywares or whatever, I'm just remind everyone about what happened over Mojosearch.

Is he your partner in anyway?

Raven · 11-30-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
hahaha, I love these threads. the trolls come out in force.
(notice you don't see any businessmen actually joining the trolls)

There are some business women reading and enjoying a good laugh.

With you.

12clicks · 11-30-2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Uh google result #'s don't mean shit... READ some of the pages.

top 2 results for fastclick:

Fastclick.txt definition, relationships, removal
... WARNING!!! File fastclick.txt is related to spyware. This is serious violation of your privacy, your system is under security threat. ...
www.2-spyware.com/file-fastclick-txt.html - 10k - Cached - Similar_pages

Can't connect to fastclick, casale, others
... fastclick.com casalemedia.com azoogleads.com. I have uninstalled and reinstalled my firewall, uninstalled and reinstalled my av (Norton), did a spyware scan ...
www.webmasterworld.com/forum10/7021.htm - Similar_pages

The internet is a funny place. for every me, there are 10,000 yous who don't have a clue.

when all the yous get together, they actually convince themselves they're right.

jact · 11-30-2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
Well, jact I know that the search is down here at GFY but I remember when I complained about not being paid I saw at least 5-10 people saying the same thing.

I remeber I got a few replies saying: "been there, done that".

Mojosearch riped some webmasters, why can't I complain?

I'm not discussing what you guys are saying about spywares or whatever, I'm just remind everyone about what happened over Mojosearch.

Is he your partner in anyway?

I never did business with Mojosearch, however even if you weren't paid, it doesn't mean he gets thrown into the scammer pile without full disclosure from both sides. IMO.

As to being my partner, no, he's just someone I've known for a very long time.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-30-2004, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Raven
There are some business women reading and enjoying a good laugh.

With you.

Oh Children to and they are scaring the children!!!

Those Mother fuckers!

project_naughty · 11-30-2004, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
and your point being????????????

$$$$ <----- thats what you are in this biz for right?

capish?

I always thought that Juicylinks seemed like a good guy until now.

BVF · 11-30-2004, 01:23 PM

Fuck Off 49th Parallel. You're the most whiniest baby on GFY....

D Money needs to give you a big woody for the "Biggest Board Bitch"

- Jesus Christ - · 11-30-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
top 2 results for fastclick:

Fastclick.txt definition, relationships, removal
... WARNING!!! File fastclick.txt is related to spyware. This is serious violation of your privacy, your system is under security threat. ...
www.2-spyware.com/file-fastclick-txt.html - 10k - Cached - Similar_pages

Can't connect to fastclick, casale, others
... fastclick.com casalemedia.com azoogleads.com. I have uninstalled and reinstalled my firewall, uninstalled and reinstalled my av (Norton), did a spyware scan ...
www.webmasterworld.com/forum10/7021.htm - Similar_pages

The internet is a funny place. for every me, there are 10,000 yous who don't have a clue.
when all the yous get together, they actually convince themselves they're right.

Yo hothead. Show me a single time in this thread I accused you of anything or agreed with the original poster.

I simply stated that google result #'s don't mean shit and that you have to read the pages.

12clicks · 11-30-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
Well, jact I know that the search is down here at GFY but I remember when I complained about not being paid I saw at least 5-10 people saying the same thing.

I remeber I got a few replies saying: "been there, done that".

Mojosearch riped some webmasters, why can't I complain?

I'm not discussing what you guys are saying about spywares or whatever, I'm just remind everyone about what happened over Mojosearch.

Is he your partner in anyway?

what happened with mojosearch is well documented.
We were years ahead of the curve regarding webmaster fraud. we caught you when others weren't.
of course some theives were bitter, of course they posted, of course it never mattered, just as this thread doesn't

12clicks · 11-30-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Yo hothead. Show me a single time in this thread I accused you of anything or agreed with the original poster.

I simply stated that google result #'s don't mean shit and that you have to read the pages.

and I simply stated the way of the internet.

r1-mel · 11-30-2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
12clicks runs a company called Standard Internet. And you've all seen me talk about them before. Well, here we go again.

Last night, a friend called me up and complained that everytime he uses the internet, his surfing is constantly interrupted by pop-up after pop-up. So, I offered to come over and help him remove the pesky adware from his computer.

Well, upon inspection, I found out that he had recently downloaded a "FREE" screensaver offered to him on a adpage. This screensaver (offered up by Standard Internet's popuptraffic service) comes complete with "ad-supported" software.

This "ad-supported" software then serves up ad after ad ....depending on what you enter in the browser address bar, and by what you search for...and simply by launching the browser.

Now, here's where it effects all of you. While I was there, and before I removed the offending piece of scumware from his system, I went to one of my own Adult Friend Finder ad pages. Well, lo and behold, what also launches?...a pop-up for Alt.com & passion.com...with someone else's affiliate codes in them. So, they go to my ad page...they are served up someone else's ads..and they get the commission.

Now, I can GUARANTEE that Ron will come to this post, and try to derail my claims by stating all sorts of unrelated comments..such as...go back to flipping burgers... call the FTC...etc.

But, the simple fact is, 12Clicks and his company are costing YOU money. So, I'm not going to respond to any of his comments. Instead, if you decide to post in this thread...I ask that you always add my text above as a quote, so that everyone that comes to this thread can see the original intent...and see that 12Clicks is STEALING your money.

And, no Ron, it doesn't matter that you are simply an "ad-broker". The fact is, 99% of the ads served up by your popuptraffic program are ad-supported scumware.

And, anyone that wants to see for themselves, feel free to put this little bit of code on a html page.

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript" src="http://www.popuptraffic.com/assign.php?l=traffic"></script>
This comes straight from Standard Internet's popuptraffic affiliate page. This will launch the ads served by Standard Internet. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that no matter what 12Clicks/Ron says...his program is the number 1 provider of scumware on the net.

P.S. Don't download his spywareremover programs offered in the adpages. At least one of them is a known trojan...which goes on to install it's own little ad-supported software.

Before you post..please think! Do you really want to stand up for this piece of scum, while his programs are effectively STEALING the money right out of your pockets.

BVF · 11-30-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by BVF
Fuck Off 49th Parallel. You're the most whiniest baby on GFY....

D Money needs to give you a big woody for the "Biggest Board Bitch"

Oh. And what happened to the FBI who was supposed to be knocking on my door because I shot pictures of a girl that said she was HIV positive? Weren't you going to sic the posse on me?

Rich · 11-30-2004, 01:35 PM

I thought everyone already knew 12dicks was a scumware pusher? You didn't really think this clown has ever made a dime honestly, did you?

modF · 11-30-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
Hey FUCKTARD if that's all it was how come it's on a SPYWARE WATCH LIST? Also FUCKTARD read the link from HIS OWN BOARD. Even his own affiliates are telling him to stop the SPYWARE crap. One more thing FUCKTARD, you're IGNORED!

Oh no, a SPYWARE WATCH LIST? I'm Ignored? Good thing I put you on my MORON WATCH LIST.

Good thing you read the links you posted:

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Tracking Cookie: Any cookie that is shared among two or more web pages for the purpose of tracking a user's surfing history.

Next time, before calling me a fucktard, make sure you know what you are talking about, and perhaps a bitm more of how the internet works.

They broker ads people get over it already.

12clicks · 11-30-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
I thought everyone already knew 12dicks was a scumware pusher? You didn't really think this clown has ever made a dime honestly, did you?

I think this makes all trolls present and accounted for.

tranza · 11-30-2004, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
what happened with mojosearch is well documented.
We were years ahead of the curve regarding webmaster fraud. we caught you when others weren't.
of course some theives were bitter, of course they posted, of course it never mattered, just as this thread doesn't

lol... At the time you said that you guys had a problem and that you were going to send the check that same day.

A month later you said you e-mailed me asking for my address and that I never replied. I never received such e-mail.

A month after that you said that you had already sent the check. But I never got it. And since it was only $200 or something I gave up.

I was NEVER accused as a cheater at the time. I should have posted again saying you didn't pay me, but I gave it up.

BlackCrayon · 11-30-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
my thought exactely I fuckin hate spyware , dont know about those claims and their truth value , but if in fact it is true , I cant understand why peeps would support 12clicks

because ppl will always kiss ass of those who have money and power in this biz, no matter how scummy they are. i don't know if whats claimed by this guy is true but i think everyone knows 12clicks is involved in exploits and whatnot.

SleazyDream · 11-30-2004, 01:55 PM

i don't know if 12clicks did or didn't do this - but anyone running spyware that hijacks or pops other similar affiliate programs to someone's website is a scam artist in my books.

they STEAL advertising revenue from other companies that have REAL operating expensis.

those people who support this mindset are also scammers and the scum of this industry in my book- no matter what their name is or who they represent.

eventually the legal world WILL catch up with them.

- theft is theft.

Peaches · 11-30-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I think this makes all trolls present and accounted for.

Show of hands, how many of you holier than thous are actually SENDING traffic to 12Clicks that you're now pulling?

I'd be surprised if there's even ONE.

Raven · 11-30-2004, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches

Show of hands, how many of you holier than thous are actually SENDING traffic to 12Clicks that you're now pulling?

I'd be surprised if there's even ONE.

Thank you, Peaches....now I really AM laughing.

Fake Nick · 11-30-2004, 02:15 PM

I want in on the fun

Cassie · 11-30-2004, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
I want in on the fun

leave cash on the plate at the door.

Rich · 11-30-2004, 02:22 PM

Show of hands, how many people send their traffic to this "Adware" program willingly?

xxxdesign-net · 11-30-2004, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Raven
There are some business women reading and enjoying a good laugh.

With you.

BradM and Iceicebaby would be proud of you...

Raven · 11-30-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
BradM and Iceicebaby would be proud of you...

I'm not quite sure how to take that.....Were they laughing with Ron, too?

dirtydesignz · 11-30-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
i don't know if 12clicks did or didn't do this - but anyone running spyware that hijacks or pops other similar affiliate programs to someone's website is a scam artist in my books.

they STEAL advertising revenue from other companies that have REAL operating expensis.

those people who support this mindset are also scammers and the scum of this industry in my book- no matter what their name is or who they represent.

eventually the legal world WILL catch up with them.

- theft is theft.

Well said

Juicy D. Links · 11-30-2004, 02:26 PM

Hi

Juicy D. Links · 11-30-2004, 02:27 PM

dont mind me

xxxdesign-net · 11-30-2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Raven
I'm not quite sure how to take that.....Were they laughing with Ron, too?

sure.. they never miss an opportunity to kiss an ass... The bigger the better...

Ice · 11-30-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
BradM and Iceicebaby would be proud of you...

?

Fake Nick · 11-30-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
dont mind me

redshoe is proud of you for using his images

Fake Nick · 11-30-2004, 02:35 PM

11-30-2004, 12:48 PM	#105
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	This is GFY... The one place where a person can post pics of him getting beatin with a bat and his wallet stolen and it wouldnt be proof enough to the audience __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

11-30-2004, 12:53 PM	#106
Mojo Used to be a Legend Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 356	The largest ad company is Fastclick... Hmmm....3600 results. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...%22%2C+spyware Advertising.com Yikes! 8880 results! http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...re&btnG=Search The largest adware/screensaver company is Freeze.com. Freeze is one of Yahoo!'s largest advertisers. The run all the ads with the fish and Christmas animated screensavers you've seen pretty much everywhere. If you want to say that PopUpTraffic is "spyware" than you would also need to conclude that Yahoo! and Google is "spyware" as well. http://www.google.com/search?source...q=screen+savers Please, if you don't know the difference between adware and spyware you really shouldn't call yourself a webmaster. But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant. __________________ -12clicks wears fancy boots.

11-30-2004, 01:05 PM	#112
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	12Clicks is a fucking scammer since the times of Mojosearch. Just ask around and see how many webmasters he pissed with that little program of his. I'm still waiting for my check. Now you can call me a troll, you fucking looser. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

11-30-2004, 01:15 PM	#117
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	I Hate spyware!~ __________________ - nothing here -

11-30-2004, 01:17 PM	#118
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Spin, spin spin... I wanna read more about the Affilaite ID swapping. Gonna go and fry up some egg's and turkey sausage. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

11-30-2004, 01:09 PM	#114
The Bootyologist So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: m00dville Posts: 2,912	hey jact so are you admitting yes he does it and it's okay OR no it's not true and spyware adware is not okay

11-30-2004, 01:23 PM	#125
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	Fuck Off 49th Parallel. You're the most whiniest baby on GFY.... D Money needs to give you a big woody for the "Biggest Board Bitch" __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

11-30-2004, 01:35 PM	#131
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	I thought everyone already knew 12dicks was a scumware pusher? You didn't really think this clown has ever made a dime honestly, did you?

11-30-2004, 01:55 PM	#136
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i don't know if 12clicks did or didn't do this - but anyone running spyware that hijacks or pops other similar affiliate programs to someone's website is a scam artist in my books. they STEAL advertising revenue from other companies that have REAL operating expensis. those people who support this mindset are also scammers and the scum of this industry in my book- no matter what their name is or who they represent. eventually the legal world WILL catch up with them. - theft is theft. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

11-30-2004, 02:15 PM	#139
Fake Nick So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: go troll goo! Posts: 7,708	I want in on the fun

11-30-2004, 02:22 PM	#141
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Show of hands, how many people send their traffic to this "Adware" program willingly?

11-30-2004, 02:26 PM	#145
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Hi

11-30-2004, 02:27 PM	#146
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	dont mind me

11-30-2004, 02:35 PM	#150
Fake Nick So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: go troll goo! Posts: 7,708