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Old 11-30-2004, 10:54 AM   #51
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:55 AM   #52
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:56 AM   #53
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12clicks runs a company called Standard Internet. And you've all seen me talk about them before. Well, here we go again.

Last night, a friend called me up and complained that everytime he uses the internet, his surfing is constantly interrupted by pop-up after pop-up. So, I offered to come over and help him remove the pesky adware from his computer.

Well, upon inspection, I found out that he had recently downloaded a "FREE" screensaver offered to him on a adpage. This screensaver (offered up by Standard Internet's popuptraffic service) comes complete with "ad-supported" software.

This "ad-supported" software then serves up ad after ad ....depending on what you enter in the browser address bar, and by what you search for...and simply by launching the browser.

Now, here's where it effects all of you. While I was there, and before I removed the offending piece of scumware from his system, I went to one of my own Adult Friend Finder ad pages. Well, lo and behold, what also launches?...a pop-up for Alt.com & passion.com...with someone else's affiliate codes in them. So, they go to my ad page...they are served up someone else's ads..and they get the commission.

Now, I can GUARANTEE that Ron will come to this post, and try to derail my claims by stating all sorts of unrelated comments..such as...go back to flipping burgers... call the FTC...etc.

But, the simple fact is, 12Clicks and his company are costing YOU money. So, I'm not going to respond to any of his comments. Instead, if you decide to post in this thread...I ask that you always add my text above as a quote, so that everyone that comes to this thread can see the original intent...and see that 12Clicks is STEALING your money.

And, no Ron, it doesn't matter that you are simply an "ad-broker". The fact is, 99% of the ads served up by your popuptraffic program are ad-supported scumware.

And, anyone that wants to see for themselves, feel free to put this little bit of code on a html page.

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript" src="http://www.popuptraffic.com/assign.php?l=traffic"></script>
This comes straight from Standard Internet's popuptraffic affiliate page. This will launch the ads served by Standard Internet. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that no matter what 12Clicks/Ron says...his program is the number 1 provider of scumware on the net.


P.S. Don't download his spywareremover programs offered in the adpages. At least one of them is a known trojan...which goes on to install it's own little ad-supported software.

Before you post..please think! Do you really want to stand up for this piece of scum, while his programs are effectively STEALING the money right out of your pockets.
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:56 AM   #54
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why is 12clicks posting so much in this thread?
because I'm waiting for my lunch date to arrive.
I eat lunch at 11:45 sharp and its almost 1:00.
I need something to do while my stomach growls.
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:57 AM   #55
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because I'm waiting for my lunch date to arrive.
I eat lunch at 11:45 sharp and its almost 1:00.
I need something to do while my stomach growls.
welcome troll!
not a troll, just curious as to how defensive you are regarding this.

anyway, its not even 10 am, and im not trolling.

just watching you deend yourself against what you call idiots.

if it didnt hold any validity you wouldnt be in here.

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Old 11-30-2004, 10:57 AM   #57
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:58 AM   #58
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:59 AM   #60
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Read my post.

Your programs pop-up competitive pop-ups. Yes, big difference in the legality...little difference in the end effect.
nope, sorry liar. you're wrong.

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And again, I invite anyone to try the test link for themselves. Don't take my word for it. Do your own research on the ads offered up by Standard Internet. Again, my claims mean nothing..but real research doesn't lie.
that's why you won't produce any.

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"why I didn't take screen caps because, well.................I'm a liar"
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So glad I had 12clicks on IGNORE

Anyways yes popuptraffic as well clickthrutrffic, allclicks, bulkclicks, searchtraffic and textlink are all owend by Standard Internet. they also use to run mojosearch. Is that even still around?
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I'm sorry, but I must have missed this part.... I saw you call him a liar and asked what his habits are... but where is the "providing the truth" part?
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not a troll, just curious as to how defensive you are regarding this.

anyway, its not even 10 am, and im not trolling.
wrong definition of the word I'm calling you the troll from under the bridge (noun not the verb)



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if it didnt hold any validity you wouldnt be in here.
really? shall I have some fun starting a new thread explaining how you steal from your clients?
after all, if its not valid, you won't mind.
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I'm sorry, but I must have missed this part.... I saw you call him a liar and asked what his habits are... but where is the "providing the truth" part?
I suggest you go re-read the thread, troll.
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12clicks runs a company called Standard Internet. And you've all seen me talk about them before. Well, here we go again.

Last night, a friend called me up and complained that everytime he uses the internet, his surfing is constantly interrupted by pop-up after pop-up. So, I offered to come over and help him remove the pesky adware from his computer.

Well, upon inspection, I found out that he had recently downloaded a "FREE" screensaver offered to him on a adpage. This screensaver (offered up by Standard Internet's popuptraffic service) comes complete with "ad-supported" software.

This "ad-supported" software then serves up ad after ad ....depending on what you enter in the browser address bar, and by what you search for...and simply by launching the browser.

Now, here's where it effects all of you. While I was there, and before I removed the offending piece of scumware from his system, I went to one of my own Adult Friend Finder ad pages. Well, lo and behold, what also launches?...a pop-up for Alt.com & passion.com...with someone else's affiliate codes in them. So, they go to my ad page...they are served up someone else's ads..and they get the commission.

Now, I can GUARANTEE that Ron will come to this post, and try to derail my claims by stating all sorts of unrelated comments..such as...go back to flipping burgers... call the FTC...etc.

But, the simple fact is, 12Clicks and his company are costing YOU money. So, I'm not going to respond to any of his comments. Instead, if you decide to post in this thread...I ask that you always add my text above as a quote, so that everyone that comes to this thread can see the original intent...and see that 12Clicks is STEALING your money.

And, no Ron, it doesn't matter that you are simply an "ad-broker". The fact is, 99% of the ads served up by your popuptraffic program are ad-supported scumware.

And, anyone that wants to see for themselves, feel free to put this little bit of code on a html page.

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript" src="http://www.popuptraffic.com/assign.php?l=traffic"></script>
This comes straight from Standard Internet's popuptraffic affiliate page. This will launch the ads served by Standard Internet. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that no matter what 12Clicks/Ron says...his program is the number 1 provider of scumware on the net.


P.S. Don't download his spywareremover programs offered in the adpages. At least one of them is a known trojan...which goes on to install it's own little ad-supported software.

Before you post..please think! Do you really want to stand up for this piece of scum, while his programs are effectively STEALING the money right out of your pockets.
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really? shall I have some fun starting a new thread explaining how you steal from your clients?
after all, if its not valid, you won't mind.
http://www.fletchxxx.com

go for it.

shop has been closed ;)
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I don't know why people try shit like this. They should know that someone's going to find out and spill it on the boards.

Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't. I've seen no proof posted. I think it would be very stupid to do such a thing and 12clicks doesn't strike me as being that stupid. But, then again, he did say he was voting for Bush so who knows.

In the meantime, I wish he'd send ME some clicks. The link to my affiliate program is in my sig.
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Hmmmmm

http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/p...x?id=453074325

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/archive/index.php/t-354

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache...en%20target=nw
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the google cache one is funny
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Read my post.

Your programs pop-up competitive pop-ups. Yes, big difference in the legality...little difference in the end effect.

And again, I invite anyone to try the test link for themselves. Don't take my word for it. Do your own research on the ads offered up by Standard Internet. Again, my claims mean nothing..but real research doesn't lie.
I think 12clicks should just send all GFY members with over 3K posts $1K to help make up for all the money we've lost.

I'd say start posting your paypal and epassporte IDs, but there might be hackers on the board that would try to hack the accounts.

So just ICQ everyone. OK, that's a tuff one. Everyone in this thread then. Oh, write on the back of the check settlement in full to cover you ass just in case.

If someone did add a pop (with their affiliate ID) on a link to say Friendfinders, what law would be broken? Is this way different than what doubleclicks does? Not saying I'm happy if the event takes place, but is there anything you could really do about it besides trash 12clicks here?

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If someone did add a pop (with their affiliate ID) on a link to say Friendfinders, what law would be broken?
I believe there is a law against this.
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I think 12clicks should just send all GFY members with over 3K posts $1K to help make up for all the money we've lost.

I'd say start posting your paypal and epassporte IDs, but there might be hackers on the board that would try to hack the accounts.

So just ICQ everyone. OK, that's a tuff one. Everyone in this thread then. Oh, write on the back of the check settlement in full to cover you ass just in case.

If someone did add a pop (with their affiliate ID) on a link to say Friendfinders, what law would be broken? Is this way different than what doubleclicks does? Not saying I'm happy if the event takes place, but is there anything you could really do about it besides trash 12clicks here?
Sign back of check and funds sent via epassporte or paypal - good one. Maybe a text message with the payment. Wonder if that would hold up the same as a statement on a check? No need to answer. Just one of those things that make ya go ahmmmm.
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I believe there is a law against this.
Can you site it? Seriously! Cause there are a bunch of "scumware" programs out there. All those SE toolbars for example.
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Can you site it? Seriously! Cause there are a bunch of "scumware" programs out there. All those SE toolbars for example.
To protect my butt! Not all SE toolbars are bad. Wouldn't want google to be offended, they've been nice recently
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Can you site it? Seriously! Cause there are a bunch of "scumware" programs out there. All those SE toolbars for example.
No, that's why I said "I believe" not "I know". I seem to recall someone doing some jail time for doing something similar. But I could be wrong. Probally going to take some looking to find out.
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This thread is worthless without real evidence. You have none. Zero. I guarantee that your stupid friend that thought that screensaver was cool has 30 other adware/spyware programs on his computer. Finding out which one is actually doing what you claim, is hard. Hire a professional to back your claims or shut it.
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By "scam artist" you meant 12clicks, right?
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Can you site it? Seriously! Cause there are a bunch of "scumware" programs out there. All those SE toolbars for example.


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Sounds like an area that needs to be defined at law or I need to learn about it.

So if nothing else the 49th as caused some thought and research. A good thing.
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By "scam artist" you meant 12clicks, right?
Not going to be that quick to put that label on anybody.
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Well I'll label him an ASSHOLE to say the least. He and OWNED are the only 2 here I have on ignore.
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This thread is worthless without real evidence. You have none. Zero. I guarantee that your stupid friend that thought that screensaver was cool has 30 other adware/spyware programs on his computer. Finding out which one is actually doing what you claim, is hard. Hire a professional to back your claims or shut it.
As usual the proof statement is a good point.

The49th did post code to try as proof. He meets the rules of the board IMO. So we can all have at it. Be sure to start with a clean machine.

Normally the comment is STFU not just a simple shut it.
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Old 11-30-2004, 12:03 PM   #89
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Well I'll label him an ASSHOLE to say the least. He and OWNED are the only 2 here I have on ignore.
My IGNORE list is a bit longer. 12clicks can piss some people off, I'll give ya that for sure. If one ignored all the assholes on the board.... Who'd be left? Shemp, Lens and ahhhh, errr Oh, Elli and just a few others.
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Interesting thread - will have to ck in on it later.
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Every check I ever got from 12clicks was good, for that reason I find it tough to believe he's a scammer... smart businessman...YES!


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12clicks runs a company called Standard Internet. And you've all seen me talk about them before. Well, here we go again.

Last night, a friend called me up and complained that everytime he uses the internet, his surfing is constantly interrupted by pop-up after pop-up. So, I offered to come over and help him remove the pesky adware from his computer.

Well, upon inspection, I found out that he had recently downloaded a "FREE" screensaver offered to him on a adpage. This screensaver (offered up by Standard Internet's popuptraffic service) comes complete with "ad-supported" software.

This "ad-supported" software then serves up ad after ad ....depending on what you enter in the browser address bar, and by what you search for...and simply by launching the browser.

Now, here's where it effects all of you. While I was there, and before I removed the offending piece of scumware from his system, I went to one of my own Adult Friend Finder ad pages. Well, lo and behold, what also launches?...a pop-up for Alt.com & passion.com...with someone else's affiliate codes in them. So, they go to my ad page...they are served up someone else's ads..and they get the commission.

Now, I can GUARANTEE that Ron will come to this post, and try to derail my claims by stating all sorts of unrelated comments..such as...go back to flipping burgers... call the FTC...etc.

But, the simple fact is, 12Clicks and his company are costing YOU money. So, I'm not going to respond to any of his comments. Instead, if you decide to post in this thread...I ask that you always add my text above as a quote, so that everyone that comes to this thread can see the original intent...and see that 12Clicks is STEALING your money.

And, no Ron, it doesn't matter that you are simply an "ad-broker". The fact is, 99% of the ads served up by your popuptraffic program are ad-supported scumware.

And, anyone that wants to see for themselves, feel free to put this little bit of code on a html page.

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript" src="http://www.popuptraffic.com/assign.php?l=traffic"></script>
This comes straight from Standard Internet's popuptraffic affiliate page. This will launch the ads served by Standard Internet. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that no matter what 12Clicks/Ron says...his program is the number 1 provider of scumware on the net.


P.S. Don't download his spywareremover programs offered in the adpages. At least one of them is a known trojan...which goes on to install it's own little ad-supported software.

Before you post..please think! Do you really want to stand up for this piece of scum, while his programs are effectively STEALING the money right out of your pockets.
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Every check I ever got from 12clicks was good, for that reason I find it tough to believe he's a scammer... smart businessman...YES!
I bet Hitler paid his henchman on time. Doesn't make him a good guy.
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and your point being????????????

$$$$ <----- thats what you are in this biz for right?


capish?
Hey I heard Beastiality is mucho $$$

You can make as much money as you want if you respect some kind of morality.

Otherwise you need to be
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I bet Hitler paid his henchman on time. Doesn't make him a good guy.
OMG now Hitler is brought in!!!

This thread is fucking great!!!
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By "scam artist" you meant 12clicks, right?
He said spyware, he didn't say adware. There is a difference in the definition.
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Well I'll label him an ASSHOLE to say the least. He and OWNED are the only 2 here I have on ignore.
If only I could remember why this troll thinks this.
I'll bet its a good story.
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He said spyware, he didn't say adware. There is a difference in the definition.
A) You see that first link I posted. Said something about TRACKING. Isn't that like SPYING?

B) Anyone here want some ADWARE on their computers? Anyone...anyone?
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A) You see that first link I posted. Said something about TRACKING. Isn't that like SPYING?

B) Anyone here want some ADWARE on their computers? Anyone...anyone?
You dumbass, that first link was about a "tracking"' cookie. How do you think most sponsors on the internet pay their affiliates?






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