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Old 11-18-2004, 11:20 PM   #1
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So, do you think we really come from Adam?

& Eve?


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Old 11-18-2004, 11:47 PM   #2
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:49 PM   #3
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If it weren't Adam and Eve there had to be the first man and woman sometime...
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:54 PM   #4
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About as much as I believe in the bible being something more than a badly written and horribly deciphered history book that really has nothing to do with much of anything.....
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Old 11-19-2004, 12:00 AM   #5
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Old 11-19-2004, 12:00 AM   #6
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Evolution :: I like science :: seems more logical to me
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Old 11-19-2004, 12:09 AM   #7
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if you believe in bible, yes....if not then comes evolution (ape as an ancestors)
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Old 11-19-2004, 12:14 AM   #8
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no matter how the f#$k it happened amen to that....fooo realio....


personally I don't think the creation story and science 'has to' conflict at all...
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Old 11-19-2004, 12:45 AM   #9
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People don't magically appear and they aren't made from individual ribs. It's not rational to believe such things. That's just not how people are made.
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Old 11-19-2004, 12:48 AM   #10
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personally I don't think the creation story and science 'has to' conflict at all...
I've been saying that for years. The first verse of the Bible says that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Nowhere in the rest of the book does it say to remain exactly as originally created forever.
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Old 11-19-2004, 01:32 AM   #11
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I've been saying that for years. The first verse of the Bible says that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Nowhere in the rest of the book does it say to remain exactly as originally created forever.

T_o_t_ally....


when there was the reference to making man from the earth or dirt or whatever, I'm thinking.......OK...didn't aemobas (sp?) come from that primordial soup? <spoken in my best sci fi voice>


but for real...you know what i"m getting at...so the days were equal to 1k years, big woop if the time frame was off....the story could still be sound within the context of scientific understanding...
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Old 11-19-2004, 01:37 AM   #12
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adam had to be white.....ever try taking a rib from a black man?
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Old 11-19-2004, 01:38 AM   #13
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Nope...and ppl discuss more then 2000 years about it
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:05 AM   #14
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Which came first?... the chicken or the egg
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:14 AM   #15
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Nope...and ppl discuss more then 2000 years about it
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about 6000 years at least
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:29 AM   #16
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Well believe it if you want, but this is the logic of it.

Adam & Eva were the creation of God. No mention of anyone else.

They had two sons, Cain and Able.

Who got married.

Who the fuck too, thier sisters or had God been busy on the other side of the hill and did not tell anyone.

The Bible is a collection of Myths and fables, the Jews wrote it while in Babylon as slaves to keep the faith and tribe together. It turned into what it is today by zealots who want to control you.

It's so flawed in science and history to be a joke if it was not a "Holy Book and The Word of God"

Who told you that? The guy burning your neighbor at the stake while he holds a book that says Love Thy Neighbor & Thou Shalt Not Kill.
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:30 AM   #17
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If it weren't Adam and Eve there had to be the first man and woman sometime...
No, that would be like demanding to know the exact second when an apple becomes ripe... the first "human" would be a totally subjective call; even the most educated opinions could differ by a hundred thousand years .... pick a point in time/evolution where the humanoids finally look/act 'human-enough' to you to consider them the 'same' as we are today ... whatever that point in time is, there wouldn't be just two of them running around. There's never been a clear 'first' of any species; that's the whole point/process we call evolution.
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:34 AM   #18
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Which came first?... the chicken or the egg
I think the egg came first. I think the chicken evolved from some other bird that was very close to being a chicken, but not quite a modern chicken. Then it laid an egg. When the egg hatched there was a modern chicken which was slightly different than it's chicken-like parents. It would have had some mutation that made it more fit to survive and pass on it's modern chicken genes to create more modern chickens.
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:35 AM   #19
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It's in the bible but if not well then, where did we came from????? From apes??? why not!!!!
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No we are not we are all chimps and it's been proven by puting one in the whitehouse...
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Old 11-19-2004, 02:54 AM   #22
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No, that would be like demanding to know the exact second when an apple becomes ripe... the first "human" would be a totally subjective call; even the most educated opinions could differ by a hundred thousand years .... pick a point in time/evolution where the humanoids finally look/act 'human-enough' to you to consider them the 'same' as we are today ... whatever that point in time is, there wouldn't be just two of them running around. There's never been a clear 'first' of any species; that's the whole point/process we call evolution.
I have to disagree somewhat. Even if we can't decided or agree on what is the first modern human, there had to have been a first modern human. Even if it was almost indistinguisable from it's parents. There had to have been some mutation that was the last mutation that went into making us what we are today. The first 2 modern humans probably weren't man and wife though but parent and child.
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:05 AM   #23
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Well believe it if you want, but this is the logic of it.

Adam & Eva were the creation of God. No mention of anyone else.

They had two sons, Cain and Able.

Who got married.

Who the fuck too, thier sisters or had God been busy on the other side of the hill and did not tell anyone.
When Caine killed Abel and was being cast from the Garden of Eden his biggest fear of leaving was those who would harm him. There were obviously other people by that time.
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:21 AM   #24
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if we came from adam and eve thousands of years ago.. we would all look 100 times worse than the imbred hicks of the south.

royal families use to have deformaties very often because they tried to keep royal blood in the family by sleeping w/ cousins and such.

so if we all came from the same 2 people, we wouldnt have made it very far =P

course, thats just my belief
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:23 AM   #25
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i've figured out the chicken/egg question....the chicken came first, because if the egg came first, where was the chicken that had to sit on it to keep it warm and make it hatch?
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:45 AM   #26
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no matter how the f#$k it happened amen to that....fooo realio....


personally I don't think the creation story and science 'has to' conflict at all...
I feel you Babe, why does the world have to fight about such issues.....we're here and that isn't going to change, regardless of what anyone believes. Too bad the energy being spent researching and arguing cannot be spent getting along with fellow human beings...

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