David!

You know, there's more to life than dubya and the US.
Get out of your basement a little, enjoy life, have some sex.

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neverlearn

Sit down and talk to a vet dude.
I dont want this to get into a pissing match with you but I know for 100% I am right ...you are wrong....research it more than skimming through the links to keep your face.

take like a man dude.

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neverlearn

Idiotic is you saying I believe that hitler was a happy indian...
Do you think thats what I am saying?

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Odin88

My Grandfather fought in Stalingrad for Germany, and I talked to him on many occassions, what is your point? You are utterly wrong, and you can't see it. Let me lay it out simply for you.

WWII caused originally by Adolf Hitler getting in to power. Adolf Hitler developed his beliefs not as a result of his religious beliefs. The people of Germany certainly did not vote him in because he was a Pagan (something which noone can truly prove), nor did they support him and his war and go off to die because they believed it was fulfilling their religious duty.

It isn't hard to work it out my friend. Any link you try to draw between Germany's war and religion is going to be a long drawn out one without any true relevance.

neverlearn

Keep telling yourself that.
and lemme tell ya something
you better get on with the here and now

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Martin

Good Riddance. He was a crook.

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Odin88

Of course, and my reasoning for actually debating it is not because I am trying to relive WWII or something. The point is people believe anything related to religion is bad, and all war is caused by religion. Sure, Islam may be a violent religion, as may of Christianity in the past, but it does not make blind assumptions correct or healthy.

neverlearn

I respect that your Granpa is a man willing to die for his country...but that dont make the Third riech oblivious to well known fact....

Explain to me why hitler was hoisting religeous artifacts especially the spear that *supposably* pierced Christ*
and the ark...he was bent on power...if you cant see that....well you gots some work to do...

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Odin88

His links to religion where more cultural than anything else. Hitler was hardly a religious man to anyone's knowledge. I would of thought that was quite obvious.

neverlearn

Honestly ... I cant know what your granfather went through, my girlfriend is polish, she says things that I already know are a part of war...people folow orders and its easy to say I'd do this or I'd do that. The Germans were an admirable foe. Strong as steel. But their leader was wrong... and that what happened...nobody holds it against Germans in general...maybe some old time fuck tards do ...but thats thier story. My best friend is German and hes a great guy...the fact that Germans hold this weight n thier shoulders because of hitle ris fuckin retarded.

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neverlearn

peace bro.

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Joe Citizen

Man, firstly I live in my own house, not a basement.

I enjoy life more than you will ever know and sex is not a problem as I have a live-in girlfriend.

On top of all that, in two weeks I'll be in Amsterdam smoking hash and weed and eating magic mushrooms.

So yeah, don't get the idea that I'm some embittered lefty just because I despise Bush and your country's bullshit foreign policy.

I'm living life like a champion.

Gynecologist

Goodbye you fuck.

Linguist

Nazism was based on paganism just as much as it was based on christianity:

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neverlearn

Yup
Hitler was so freaked out thinking he was a chosen one he thought he could transblend (is that a word...yes it is cause Im drinking) religeon to his liking

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TheJimmy

thanks for posting some unbiased angst here...a few of us feel the same way...we're plain and simply sowing more seeds of hate than peace, and for that I feel bad for your and my child's future....


some day that shit will come home to roost unless we do something about this situation with realistic adult thoughtfulness....the current juvenile, let's kill them all thought-ests are not digging a nice hole for anyone to inhabit...

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The world is a worse place now that Arafat has passed on. May he rest in peace.

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Odin88

I think he was actually debating your point. You do realise just because a Nazi soldier is a Christian it doesn't mean he is fighting for Christianity. In other words, he is not fighting a religious war.

CET

Red herring. We're not talking about Bush, we're talking about Arafat. Stay on subject please.

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CET

You're wrong, Hitler was a catholic. He even met and recieved the blessing of the pope. The SS had belt buckles with the word "Gott Mit Uns" or "God is With Us". Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf "I believe I am doing god's work".

Herman Goering was into teutonic paganism and excavated old pagan sites as a testiment to german superiority.

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CET

Please read Mein Kampf.

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CET

1. Hitler was elected.
2. Hitler was a catholic. Read Mein Kampf.
3. The German people were happy enough to go along with the nationalistic pride Hitler played up, they were beat down, in an economic depression and the Treaty of Versais went too far and rubbed the German people's noses in the fact that they lost. It's a short step from nationalism to war.

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smack

I'ts going to be interesting to see how the power trasnfer happens and what ramifactions this has on the whole situation with israel.

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CET

1. He was VERY religious. The church has been doing their best to distance themselves from Hitler, but they once blessed Hitler and his 3rd Reich.

2. You're pulling a "no true scotsman" fallacy. Because he did horrible things, that makes it obvious that he was not religious, because no true religious person would do such things.

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KRL

I think there is going to be a huge power struggle. Arafat's wife is trying to keep control of the Palestinian purse strings. She was getting $100,000 a month out of the PLO accounts.

She better get a truck full of body guards right now, as other factions of the PLO want her gone so they can get control the bank accounts.

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CET

I'm not even going to ask if you're joking, because there's no way you can be serious.

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smack

the only hope i really have for this is that a new generation of PLO leadership will realize the futility of all the violence and work something out with israel.

however i thinkit doubtful that anything positive will come of this.

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SilverTab

it's even online for free!
http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

reading it...

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Oh fuck is that sweet!

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smack

nice, that's definately getting bookmarked.

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SilverTab

there's also most of his important speech on there.....looooots of reading there

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polish_aristocrat

Condolences to his family and the Palestinian people.

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SpikeHeel

well according to realists death of people because of political conlicts is collateral damage. it's just so unfortunate.

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AIDS isn't funny, no matter who has it.

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Lykos

Hmmm...not that funny...still a dead man...

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reynold

the guys dead let him rest already.

ironlung

they get roses when they die

Playful_Lady

bottoms up.

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