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titmowse · 11-09-2004, 03:51 PM

Or so says CNN

candyflip · 11-09-2004, 03:52 PM

He's getting ready to be nominated to the Supreme Court.

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 03:52 PM

That will make it a little harder for him to destroy the entire porn industry, won't it?

Wait a second here ... That would make it impossible! I find it hard to believe that the Liberal left on GFY could be wrong again.

Marcus Aurelius · 11-09-2004, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by candyflip
He's getting ready to be nominated to the Supreme Court.

I have nothing but darkness inside.

cosis · 11-09-2004, 03:52 PM

just saw it on fox news

Jace · 11-09-2004, 03:53 PM

nothing on cnn.com

anyone have a link

freeadultcontent · 11-09-2004, 03:53 PM

Furious_Male · 11-09-2004, 03:53 PM

Just heard it on my local news as well. Most knew this was coming. Now will the individual filling his shoes be worst or the same as him.

METROINC · 11-09-2004, 03:57 PM

G F Y A-S-H-C-R-O-FT !!

FU!

YEAAAAAA!

nicchick · 11-09-2004, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Male
Just heard it on my local news as well. Most knew this was coming. Now will the individual filling his shoes be worst or the same as him.

The leading candiate is said to be "Equally popular with the religious right".

TheJimmy · 11-09-2004, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by nicchick
The leading candiate is said to be "Equally popular with the religious right".

no shock there, they're just putting a fresh face on before the witch hunts begin...

Furious_Male · 11-09-2004, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by nicchick
The leading candiate is said to be "Equally popular with the religious right".

I figured as much. Its going to be a rough road regardless the next 4 years.

titmowse · 11-09-2004, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Male
Just heard it on my local news as well. Most knew this was coming. Now will the individual filling his shoes be worst or the same as him.

no shit. we might get this guy:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/gonzales-bio.html

you might know him better by this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004May17.html

pornJester · 11-09-2004, 04:01 PM

I heard Bill Mahr talking about this a few days ago on his show. Hopefully it's true

GatorB · 11-09-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
That will make it a little harder for him to destroy the entire porn industry, won't it?

Wait a second here ... That would make it impossible! I find it hard to believe that the Liberal left on GFY could be wrong again.

Excuse me but did he say he was going to resign if Bush won? Um no. Did Bush say he would ask for Ashcroft's resignation if he was re-lected? Um no. Is Ashcroft's replacement MORE likely to go after porn than ANY AG candidate that President Kerry would have appointed? YES. How does if feel to be completely OWNED?

TheJimmy · 11-09-2004, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
.... Is Ashcroft's replacement MORE likely to go after porn than ANY AG candidate that President Kerry would have appointed? YES. ...

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
Excuse me but did he say he was going to resign if Bush won? Um no. Did Bush say he would ask for Ashcroft's resignation if he was re-lected? Um no. Is Ashcroft's replacement MORE likely to go after porn than ANY AG candidate that President Kerry would have appointed? YES. How does if feel to be completely OWNED?

I'm completely owned?

In 4 years you can't point to a single reputable person who has been put out of business.

The entire panic of "we're done for" is complete and utter speculation. As it turns out, John Ashcroft isn't going to be around at all.

All that panic for nothing and you think I'm owned?

NichePay_Manny · 11-09-2004, 04:10 PM

Thank u GOD

Tom_PMs · 11-09-2004, 04:10 PM

They sued porn producers in the last 4 years. Previous 8 they didnt. Whats wrong with people.

Lensman · 11-09-2004, 04:10 PM

Here is the story

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...fat/index.html

CamChicks · 11-09-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
That will make it a little harder for him to destroy the entire porn industry, won't it?

Wait a second here ... That would make it impossible! I find it hard to believe that the Liberal left on GFY could be wrong again.

What matters is policy and enforcement; not the name behind the desk. Wait and see. This may just be putting on a fresh face, who can get away with more than Ashcroft who had burned too many bridges already.

Do you think Bush will give the job to a pro-free-speech / pro-civil-liberities kinda guy? I doubt it.

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
They sued porn producers in the last 4 years. Previous 8 they didnt. Whats wrong with people.

One guy didn't pay his taxes and got nailed for porn aswell. Lessons learned: Pay your taxes

Some scat site was shutdown too. People shitting on each other and porn are not exactly the same thing.

Truth is, nobody down, nobody out. Lots of people running around scared speculating though. Lots.

Thurbs · 11-09-2004, 04:11 PM

heh - that guy has tried to ruin all things tech. good to see him go.

titmowse · 11-09-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
I'm completely owned?

In 4 years you can't point to a single reputable person who has been put out of business.

The entire panic of "we're done for" is complete and utter speculation. As it turns out, John Ashcroft isn't going to be around at all.

All that panic for nothing and you think I'm owned?

keep in mind, those new 2257 regulations are still waiting around the corner. will the new AG uphold the old regulations or adopt asshat's crippling new ones?

only the shadow knows for sure

Xenophage · 11-09-2004, 04:12 PM

pornguy · 11-09-2004, 04:12 PM

Just remember that Bush and his people appointed to office have nothing to loose. He can not run again, and very rarely will the next guy keep any from before.

Things can get much worse.

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by CamChicks
What matters is policy and enforcement; not the name behind the desk. Wait and see. This may just be putting on a fresh face, who can get away with more than Ashcroft who had burned too many bridges already.

My point is that there isn't any political insider with any specific knowledge on this board. We're all political amateurs running around spouting our opinions.

"If Bush wins, Ashcroft is going to put us out of business" has come up a few times running up to election. I just wanted to smuggly point out, it's not possible.

Can somebody else be tougher on porn? Sure. Has the Bush Administration REALLY damaged the industry? No.

GatorB · 11-09-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
I'm completely owned?

In 4 years you can't point to a single reputable person who has been put out of business.

The entire panic of "we're done for" is complete and utter speculation. As it turns out, John Ashcroft isn't going to be around at all.

All that panic for nothing and you think I'm owned?

Um I have posted the link MANY MANY MANY times PROVING Ashcroft was in fact going to do a HUGE crack down on porn but 9-11 de-railed that. Now since you are a retard I'll post it yet AGAIN.

It about 2 minutes in and lasts 90 seconds. LISTEN CAREFULLY.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...view/5_hi.html

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by titmowse
keep in mind, those new 2257 regulations are still waiting around the corner. will the new AG uphold the old regulations or adopt asshat's crippling new ones?

only the shadow knows for sure

New 2257 isn't good for the industry, but it won't kill it either. Any business that can't nail down record keeping has serious problems already.

Things might be getting tougher, but as of yet the sky is yet to fall.

Nicky · 11-09-2004, 04:15 PM

Oh well, Im not so sure its gonna be better without him, they will just put someone in his place thats worse

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
Um I have posted the link MANY MANY MANY times PROVING Ashcroft was in fact going to do a HUGE crack down on porn but 9-11 de-railed that. Now since you are a retard I'll post it yet AGAIN.

It about 2 minutes in and lasts 90 seconds. LISTEN CAREFULLY.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...view/5_hi.html

John Ashcroft had the POTENTIAL to. Did he? No. And that's the point. You can post links all you like to things he'd like to have done, it doesn't change what really happened. 4 years down, porn is still here. 4 years to go, and it'll still be here.

GatorB · 11-09-2004, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
New 2257 isn't good for the industry, but it won't kill it either. Any business that can't nail down record keeping has serious problems already.

Things might be getting tougher, but as of yet the sky is yet to fall.

2257 isn't about record keeping. Anyone that support 2257 is an idiot. SUPPODESLY it's there for the "saftey" of the models. When asked by someone that these new 2257 rules could cause a stalker to very easliy get the real name and adress of a model and put her in danger of being raped and killed a DOJ spokesman said and I quote "We don't care". Yep is all about the models "safety" isn't it.

2257 is ONLY about putting people in porn out of business. And this is only the beggining. Newer more stringint and equally assinine rules will eventually be proposed with ONE purpose only. That being to make you stop selling porn.

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
2257 is ONLY about putting people in porn out of business. And this is only the beggining. Newer more stringint and equally assinine rules will eventually be proposed with ONE purpose only. That being to make you stop selling porn.

More speculation.

GatorB · 11-09-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
John Ashcroft had the POTENTIAL to. Did he? No. And that's the point. You can post links all you like to things he'd like to have done, it doesn't change what really happened. 4 years down, porn is still here. 4 years to go, and it'll still be here.

ever hear of 9-11? Ashcroft was to announce his crackdown on porn on September 11th! I think if he had announced it people would say "there are more important issues" The further from 9-11 we get the more easily he could do his crackdown. It's a FACT if there was never a 9-11 Ashcroft WOULD have had his huge porn crackdown and anyone out there that thinks Ashcroft didn't have intentions of trying to get rid of porn is an IDIOT too the Nth degree.

PerfectionGirls · 11-09-2004, 04:25 PM

I hear Jesus, the son of God has been asked to fill ashcroft spot.

Either him or Boobmaster.

GatorB · 11-09-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild
More speculation.

How. You think Ashcroft LIKES porn? He thinks DANCING is "of the devil". Are you that obtuse?

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:28 PM

I'm not advocating for John Ashcroft. He's clearly a stiff. I agree he'd love to have put everyone out of business. It's just has hasn't. Despite what we might like to think, Porn is not the center of the universe. The Justice Department has been busy, like some have pointed out. They'll continue to be busy for the next 4 years too.

It just strikes be as absurd when people run around making blanket statments like "we're all going to be put out of business" when nothing really backs this up. It's about as silly as all you guys posting about John Kerry being a shoe-in. How'd that work for all the speculative political analysts we have here?

titmowse · 11-09-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
How. You think Ashcroft LIKES porn? He thinks DANCING is "of the devil". Are you that obtuse?

psst. don't say obtuse. it makes the warden mad

PerfectionGirls · 11-09-2004, 04:30 PM

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It just strikes be as absurd when people run around making blanket statments like "we're all going to be put out of business" when nothing really backs this up. It's about as silly as all you guys posting about John Kerry being a shoe-in. How'd that work for all the speculative political analysts we have here?

Even the media miscalled the election. I will admit we live i a bit of a bubble, but I dont think anyone seen an election result like we had.

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
How. You think Ashcroft LIKES porn? He thinks DANCING is "of the devil". Are you that obtuse?

He's irrelevant now, isn't he.

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Even the media miscalled the election. I will admit we live i a bit of a bubble, but I dont think anyone seen an election result like we had.

Actually, I did. I even posted it several times.

I just wasn't foolish enough to make posts like "George Bush to win by a landslide" and go on to argue with people and call them idiots when they disagreed.

I'm not saying John A was good for this business. Clearly he wasn't. I'm just trying to get people to slow down a bit. React to the reality, don't over react to the possibility.

baddog · 11-09-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by titmowse
or adopt asshat's crippling new ones?

only the shadow knows for sure

Please remind me how proper and efficient record keeping is crippling. I keep forgetting.

CamChicks · 11-09-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by WarChild

Can somebody else be tougher on porn? Sure. Has the Bush Administration REALLY damaged the industry? No.

Presidents typically do not press hard on controversial domestic issues until they win a second term. In 2009, if there is/was no assault, then go ahead and gloat about GFY being wrong. But if even 1 person goes to jail (or is bankrupted fighting in court) because of entertainment based on sexual activity between naked consenting adults, then that's an unforgiveable assault on civil liberties. The porn industry is never going to go away, but the state may persecute individual scapegoats to satisfy the religious right, and that troubles me because I don't like my government putting american citizens on trial for offending the church.

titmowse · 11-09-2004, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
Please remind me how proper and efficient record keeping is crippling. I keep forgetting.

so you're telling me that requiring affiliate webmasters to keep a public webpage -containing a model's true identity- for each and every image is efficient?

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by CamChicks
Presidents typically do not press hard on controversial domestic issues until they win a second term. In 2009, if there is/was no assault, then go ahead and gloat about GFY being wrong. But if even 1 person goes to jail (or is bankrupted fighting in court) because of entertainment based on sexual activity between naked consenting adults, then that's an unforgiveable assault on civil liberties. The porn industry is never going to go away, but the state may persecute individual scapegoats to satisfy the religious right, and that troubles me because I don't like my government putting american citizens on trial for offending the church.

See I'm not so much gloating that GFY was wrong. I'm no more an expert in these matters than anyone else. I'm not a lawyer, I don't have a political background and I'm not a lobbyist. It MIGHT happen just the way people are saying. Maybe so. It is possible, I'll even admit it. I'm just trying to get people to really think through their situations instead of relying on all this speculation one way or another.

There's being prepared for something, and then there's just being in a panic. One is healthy, one not so much.

baddog · 11-09-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
2257 isn't about record keeping.

hmmm, you must be reading a different 2257 than I am, that is for sure

WarChild · 11-09-2004, 04:45 PM

Here's a good example:

New 2257 regulations are proposed. An uproar ensues. People begin posting in a panic asking if they're compliant, what they should do and how much it sucks. Before posting in a state of panic about 2257, how many of those people actually read through the proposed changes? Based on a number of posts I read, not too many.

baddog · 11-09-2004, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by titmowse
so you're telling me that requiring affiliate webmasters to keep a public webpage -containing a model's true identity- for each and every image is efficient?

the question isn't whether or not it is efficient, the question is whether or not it is crippling

titmowse · 11-09-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
the question isn't whether or not it is efficient, the question is whether or not it is crippling

Originally posted by baddog
Please remind me how proper and efficient record keeping is crippling. I keep forgetting.

you said efficient. i didn't. and yeah, it is fucking crippling because it's retroactive.

Sarah_Jayne · 11-09-2004, 04:54 PM

while I am not sure that this is going to turn out to be a good thing in the long run today I will celebrate. Ding dong the witch is dead.

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WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	I'm not advocating for John Ashcroft. He's clearly a stiff. I agree he'd love to have put everyone out of business. It's just has hasn't. Despite what we might like to think, Porn is not the center of the universe. The Justice Department has been busy, like some have pointed out. They'll continue to be busy for the next 4 years too. It just strikes be as absurd when people run around making blanket statments like "we're all going to be put out of business" when nothing really backs this up. It's about as silly as all you guys posting about John Kerry being a shoe-in. How'd that work for all the speculative political analysts we have here? __________________ .

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WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Here's a good example: New 2257 regulations are proposed. An uproar ensues. People begin posting in a panic asking if they're compliant, what they should do and how much it sucks. Before posting in a state of panic about 2257, how many of those people actually read through the proposed changes? Based on a number of posts I read, not too many. __________________ .

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