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detoxed · 11-08-2004, 05:31 PM

I posted on GFY before Kerry was selected, I said Dean was the only one with a chance to win. I think thats because Dean would have gone after Bush a lot harder than Kerry did, because Dean acts a little crazy kind of like Bush.

Agree or disagree?

BradM · 11-08-2004, 05:31 PM

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Pete · 11-08-2004, 05:32 PM

Whos Dean?

candyflip · 11-08-2004, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
I posted on GFY before Kerry was selected, I said Dean was the only one with a chance to win. I think thats because Dean would have gone after Bush a lot harder than Kerry did, because Dean acts a little crazy kind of like Bush.

Agree or disagree?

He was still going after Bush today. Just saw him on CNN.

DatingGold · 11-08-2004, 05:34 PM

smell my balls

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detoxed · 11-08-2004, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by Pete
Whos Dean?

Howard Dean...

detoxed · 11-08-2004, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by DatingGold
smell my balls

see sig

looks like epiccash's contest was a lot more popular than yours

CET · 11-08-2004, 05:55 PM

Going after Bush was exactly Kerry's problem. He spent so much time going after Bush that no one really knew where he stood on anything. By going after Bush, he was appealing to the "anybody but Bush" crowd, but he already had their vote. The swing vote isn't convinced by mud slinging, except that the mud slinger is a jerk. If Kerry had kept away from the mud slinging, I suspect he would have easily taken the swing states.

Look at Bush's campaign before the debates, he didn't say almost anything negative about Kerry and he consistently had a very large margin, usually around 10%. He even said how much he admired Kerry and his military service. He tried to get groups like the Swift Boat Vets to shut up, because he didn't want to be attached to negative publicity. He was doing great in the polls when he used that strategy. It was only when he went on the counter-offensive and got into the mud slinging himself that the gap closed to only a few points in either direction.

Conclusion: Mud slinging doesn't get anyone elected, it only hurts their campaign.

detoxed · 11-08-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Going after Bush was exactly Kerry's problem. He spent so much time going after Bush that no one really knew where he stood on anything. By going after Bush, he was appealing to the "anybody but Bush" crowd, but he already had their vote. The swing vote isn't convinced by mud slinging, except that the mud slinger is a jerk. If Kerry had kept away from the mud slinging, I suspect he would have easily taken the swing states.

Look at Bush's campaign before the debates, he didn't say almost anything negative about Kerry and he consistently had a very large margin, usually around 10%. He even said how much he admired Kerry and his military service. He tried to get groups like the Swift Boat Vets to shut up, because he didn't want to be attached to negative publicity. He was doing great in the polls when he used that strategy. It was only when he went on the counter-offensive and got into the mud slinging himself that the gap closed to only a few points in either direction.

Conclusion: Mud slinging doesn't get anyone elected, it only hurts their campaign.

No one said anything about mudslinging. They did NOT go after Bush in terms of his job as president. They went after stupid Air National Guard bullshit that everyone got sick of.

Doctor Dre · 11-08-2004, 06:01 PM

I say that Kerry sucked ... but with the voting machines bullshit no1 would have done anything good

CET · 11-08-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
No one said anything about mudslinging. They did NOT go after Bush in terms of his job as president. They went after stupid Air National Guard bullshit that everyone got sick of.

The first post said that Howard Dean would have gone after Bush harder then Kerry did.

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detoxed

I posted on GFY before Kerry was selected, I said Dean was the only one with a chance to win. I think thats because Dean would have gone after Bush a lot harder than Kerry did, because Dean acts a little crazy kind of like Bush.

Agree or disagree?
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My argument was, that was exactly why Kerry lost.

Listen to the stump speeches Kerry was giving all over the country, he didn't touch the National Guard thing at all. I give him props for that, but he wouldn't shut up about how much Bush sucked and that's what killed his campaign.

detoxed · 11-08-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by CET
The first post said that Howard Dean would have gone after Bush harder then Kerry did.

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detoxed

I posted on GFY before Kerry was selected, I said Dean was the only one with a chance to win. I think thats because Dean would have gone after Bush a lot harder than Kerry did, because Dean acts a little crazy kind of like Bush.

Agree or disagree?
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My argument was, that was exactly why Kerry lost.

Listen to the stump speeches Kerry was giving all over the country, he didn't touch the National Guard thing at all. I give him props for that, but he wouldn't shut up about how much Bush sucked and that's what killed his campaign.

He didnt attack Bush on his fuckups. He didnt call him out on it. If he would have gone after Bush, he probably could have won it. Several experts have already said this.

polish_aristocrat · 11-08-2004, 06:31 PM

Gore for presidnt

devilspost · 11-08-2004, 06:32 PM

Dean is a Jew aint he? Kerry part Jew there ya go.

Peacemaker · 11-08-2004, 06:36 PM

it isnt over yet..

nmcog · 11-08-2004, 06:43 PM

Kerry is french

devilspost · 11-08-2004, 06:45 PM

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Kerry is french

No. He looks French

4Pics · 11-08-2004, 07:11 PM

Kerry had no chance

CET · 11-08-2004, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
He didnt attack Bush on his fuckups. He didnt call him out on it. If he would have gone after Bush, he probably could have won it. Several experts have already said this.

I listened to his stump speeches most every day, and most every stump speech was nothing more then "Bush fucked this away, then he fucked that away, now he's fucking this other thing away, etc."

If you think more attacks would have won the day, then why hasn't that approach ever gotten anyone elected? Every single election I have ever seen in my entire life where one guy attacks the other, the guy who does the least amount of mud slinging has always gotten elected.

jacked · 11-08-2004, 08:52 PM

reynold · 11-09-2004, 09:54 AM

most thinks the elections were rigged.

kenny · 11-09-2004, 09:58 AM

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most thinks the elections were rigged.

Most on GFY that is

detoxed · 11-09-2004, 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by CET
I listened to his stump speeches most every day, and most every stump speech was nothing more then "Bush fucked this away, then he fucked that away, now he's fucking this other thing away, etc."

If you think more attacks would have won the day, then why hasn't that approach ever gotten anyone elected? Every single election I have ever seen in my entire life where one guy attacks the other, the guy who does the least amount of mud slinging has always gotten elected.

Since you know his speech's well enough to quote them....

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