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  • detoxed
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    • Jan 2003
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    #1

    Now that the election BS has died down.

    I posted on GFY before Kerry was selected, I said Dean was the only one with a chance to win. I think thats because Dean would have gone after Bush a lot harder than Kerry did, because Dean acts a little crazy kind of like Bush.


    Agree or disagree?
  • BradM
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    #2
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    • Pete
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      #3
      Whos Dean?
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      • candyflip
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        #4
        Originally posted by detoxed
        I posted on GFY before Kerry was selected, I said Dean was the only one with a chance to win. I think thats because Dean would have gone after Bush a lot harder than Kerry did, because Dean acts a little crazy kind of like Bush.


        Agree or disagree?
        He was still going after Bush today. Just saw him on CNN.

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        • DatingGold
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          • detoxed
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            #6
            Originally posted by Pete
            Whos Dean?
            Howard Dean...

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            • detoxed
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              #7
              Originally posted by DatingGold
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              • CET
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                • Jul 2003
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                #8
                Going after Bush was exactly Kerry's problem. He spent so much time going after Bush that no one really knew where he stood on anything. By going after Bush, he was appealing to the "anybody but Bush" crowd, but he already had their vote. The swing vote isn't convinced by mud slinging, except that the mud slinger is a jerk. If Kerry had kept away from the mud slinging, I suspect he would have easily taken the swing states.

                Look at Bush's campaign before the debates, he didn't say almost anything negative about Kerry and he consistently had a very large margin, usually around 10%. He even said how much he admired Kerry and his military service. He tried to get groups like the Swift Boat Vets to shut up, because he didn't want to be attached to negative publicity. He was doing great in the polls when he used that strategy. It was only when he went on the counter-offensive and got into the mud slinging himself that the gap closed to only a few points in either direction.

                Conclusion: Mud slinging doesn't get anyone elected, it only hurts their campaign.
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                • detoxed
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CET
                  Going after Bush was exactly Kerry's problem. He spent so much time going after Bush that no one really knew where he stood on anything. By going after Bush, he was appealing to the "anybody but Bush" crowd, but he already had their vote. The swing vote isn't convinced by mud slinging, except that the mud slinger is a jerk. If Kerry had kept away from the mud slinging, I suspect he would have easily taken the swing states.

                  Look at Bush's campaign before the debates, he didn't say almost anything negative about Kerry and he consistently had a very large margin, usually around 10%. He even said how much he admired Kerry and his military service. He tried to get groups like the Swift Boat Vets to shut up, because he didn't want to be attached to negative publicity. He was doing great in the polls when he used that strategy. It was only when he went on the counter-offensive and got into the mud slinging himself that the gap closed to only a few points in either direction.

                  Conclusion: Mud slinging doesn't get anyone elected, it only hurts their campaign.

                  No one said anything about mudslinging. They did NOT go after Bush in terms of his job as president. They went after stupid Air National Guard bullshit that everyone got sick of.

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                  • Doctor Dre
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                    • Jan 2001
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                    #10
                    I say that Kerry sucked ... but with the voting machines bullshit no1 would have done anything good
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                    • CET
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by detoxed
                      No one said anything about mudslinging. They did NOT go after Bush in terms of his job as president. They went after stupid Air National Guard bullshit that everyone got sick of.
                      The first post said that Howard Dean would have gone after Bush harder then Kerry did.



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                      detoxed

                      I posted on GFY before Kerry was selected, I said Dean was the only one with a chance to win. I think thats because Dean would have gone after Bush a lot harder than Kerry did, because Dean acts a little crazy kind of like Bush.

                      Agree or disagree?
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                      My argument was, that was exactly why Kerry lost.

                      Listen to the stump speeches Kerry was giving all over the country, he didn't touch the National Guard thing at all. I give him props for that, but he wouldn't shut up about how much Bush sucked and that's what killed his campaign.
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                      • detoxed
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by CET
                        The first post said that Howard Dean would have gone after Bush harder then Kerry did.



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                        detoxed

                        I posted on GFY before Kerry was selected, I said Dean was the only one with a chance to win. I think thats because Dean would have gone after Bush a lot harder than Kerry did, because Dean acts a little crazy kind of like Bush.

                        Agree or disagree?
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                        My argument was, that was exactly why Kerry lost.

                        Listen to the stump speeches Kerry was giving all over the country, he didn't touch the National Guard thing at all. I give him props for that, but he wouldn't shut up about how much Bush sucked and that's what killed his campaign.

                        He didnt attack Bush on his fuckups. He didnt call him out on it. If he would have gone after Bush, he probably could have won it. Several experts have already said this.

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                        • polish_aristocrat
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                          #13
                          Gore for presidnt
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                          • devilspost
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                            Dean is a Jew aint he? Kerry part Jew there ya go.

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                            • Peacemaker
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                              #15
                              it isnt over yet..
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                              • nmcog
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                                #16
                                Kerry is french

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                                • devilspost
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by nmcog
                                  Kerry is french
                                  No. He looks French

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                                  • 4Pics
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                                    #18
                                    Kerry had no chance

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                                    • CET
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by detoxed
                                      He didnt attack Bush on his fuckups. He didnt call him out on it. If he would have gone after Bush, he probably could have won it. Several experts have already said this.
                                      I listened to his stump speeches most every day, and most every stump speech was nothing more then "Bush fucked this away, then he fucked that away, now he's fucking this other thing away, etc."

                                      If you think more attacks would have won the day, then why hasn't that approach ever gotten anyone elected? Every single election I have ever seen in my entire life where one guy attacks the other, the guy who does the least amount of mud slinging has always gotten elected.
                                      Last edited by CET; 11-08-2004, 06:43 PM.
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                                      • jacked
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                                        #20
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                                        • reynold
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                                          #21
                                          most thinks the elections were rigged.

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                                          • kenny
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by reynold
                                            most thinks the elections were rigged.
                                            Most on GFY that is
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                                            • detoxed
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CET
                                              I listened to his stump speeches most every day, and most every stump speech was nothing more then "Bush fucked this away, then he fucked that away, now he's fucking this other thing away, etc."

                                              If you think more attacks would have won the day, then why hasn't that approach ever gotten anyone elected? Every single election I have ever seen in my entire life where one guy attacks the other, the guy who does the least amount of mud slinging has always gotten elected.
                                              Since you know his speech's well enough to quote them....

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