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Libertine 11-08-2004 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by crockett
We already have these Dutch people on our watch list .. notice the first result for the search "Netherlands" on google..

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...&q=Netherlands

:1orglaugh

we invade you guys next.. there are just too many Dutch webmasters .. :winkwink:

:1orglaugh

JamesK2 11-08-2004 08:47 AM

terrorism is sad

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld
You haven't defined it at all. All you've said are things like "people of your opinions", "people like you", "your peers in intention and action", "people with your ideals", "people of your opinions on race", etc., and a single "to the left side of the political spectrum".

Now, in your little world such meaningless innuendos perhaps count as a solid argumentation, but for the rest of us, they don't.



Now, once again, the question: what do you think my political position is, and who are you talking about when you refer to "you all"?

Surely even you realize that avoiding the question continuously is making you look really, really stupid.

That is one large piece of...nothing. Anyone can see where I believe you to come from based on my writings. In fact, it is excessively clear to anyone with even the slightest trace of intelligence and literacy.

I believe you to be part of the general politically correct choir (like I have already posted), and the whole point here is that I could apply your own curse words back on you (you have already used many of the words on many a occasion, so you can't dodge it). Are you really not able to comprehend this?

You desperately need to consult some professionals and get a resolve for whatever is wrong with either your level of literacy or your social intelligence.

jimmyf 11-08-2004 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
You Europeans crack me up. You are so overly educated that you will beat a simple solution or point to death. It?s very simple. Your sandhahahahahahas are out of control. So what are you going to do about it?
talk and then talk some more:Graucho

some more of them will get killed and they will talk some more or call the UN:2 cents:

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
That is one large piece of...nothing. Anyone can see where I believe you to come from based on my writings. In fact, it is excessively clear to anyone with even the slightest trace of intelligence and literacy.

I believe you to be part of the general politically correct choir (like I have already posted), and the whole point here is that I could apply your own curse words back on you (you have already used many of the words on many a occasion, so you can't dodge it). Are you really not able to comprehend this?

You desperately need to consult some professionals and get a resolve for whatever is wrong with either your level of literacy or your social intelligence.

Edit: If you really do suffer from a mental dysfunction or a psychosis then I am sorry for questioning your literacy and/or intelligence.

Platinumpimp 11-08-2004 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
You Europeans crack me up. You are so overly educated that you will beat a simple solution or point to death. It?s very simple. Your sandhahahahahahas are out of control. So what are you going to do about it?
I am European.

People like you definately crack me up ass well btw, so whats your point exactly? :Graucho :glugglug

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
I am European.

People like you definately crack me up ass well btw, so whats your point exactly? :Graucho :glugglug

I think he referred to educated Europeans. How do you fit yourself under that adjective?






























:winkwink: Just pulling your leg.

Libertine 11-08-2004 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
That is one large piece of...nothing. Anyone can see where I believe you to come from based on my writings. In fact, it is excessively clear to anyone with even the slightest trace of intelligence and literacy.
It is completely vague, and mixes several things together which have nothing to do with eachother.
You are undoubtedly thinking about terms like "the left" and "politically correct", but those terms are too broad to mean anything.

Aside from that, in my case, they are simply false (my political position is closest to libertarianism or classical liberalism and political correctness has never concerned me in the least).

By not making the actual statements you managed to avoid the burden of proof, and were able to keep on relying on empty innuendos instead of actual arguments. (what response can there be to "you're one of those people"?)

Besides, even if I were one of those people (I'd like to meet them some time, if you don't like them they must have some pretty good ideas), that would still not invalidate my actual arguments. All it would mean is that you called me a hypocrite because I'm "one of them", with no further argumentation...

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
I believe you to be part of the general politically correct choir (like I have already posted), and the whole point here is that I could apply your own curse words back on you (you have already used many of the words on many a occasion, so you can't dodge it). Are you really not able to comprehend this?
Once again, you're using a straw man argument. You group me with the "politically correct" (which, by the way, is too broad a term to mean anything), then attack that position.

However, you fail to give a real argument for why I would actually be "politically correct" (and no, accusing me of using words I don't use is not an actual argument, Corky).

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
You desperately need to consult some professionals and get a resolve for whatever is wrong with either your level of literacy or your social intelligence.
Hmm... there is something wrong with me because you keep on using logical fallacies and relying on innuendo instead of argumentation? :1orglaugh

Idiot :glugglug

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld
It is completely vague, and mixes several things together which have nothing to do with eachother.
You are undoubtedly thinking about terms like "the left" and "politically correct", but those terms are too broad to mean anything.

Aside from that, in my case, they are simply false (my political position is closest to libertarianism or classical liberalism and political correctness has never concerned me in the least).

By not making the actual statements you managed to avoid the burden of proof, and were able to keep on relying on empty innuendos instead of actual arguments. (what response can there be to "you're one of those people"?)

Besides, even if I were one of those people (I'd like to meet them some time, if you don't like them they must have some pretty good ideas), that would still not invalidate my actual arguments. All it would mean is that you called me a hypocrite because I'm "one of them", with no further argumentation...



Once again, you're using a straw man argument. You group me with the "politically correct" (which, by the way, is too broad a term to mean anything), then attack that position.

However, you fail to give a real argument for why I would actually be "politically correct" (and no, accusing me of using words I don't use is not an actual argument, Corky).



Hmm... there is something wrong with me because you keep on using logical fallacies and relying on innuendo instead of argumentation? :1orglaugh

Idiot :glugglug

You just can't come to acceptance with my opinion of you as being a hypocrite, can you?

You have already admitted to and shown your use of the mentioned words typically employed by the politically correct (in spite of your lie above about not using them), and your own opinions and words in this and many other threads have made it clear that, certainly, you have much in agreement with the politically correct and the more leftist side of the political scale (in terms of race, immigration, socialism, and so forth). Therefore, when I am given the option to apply one of these labels that you have enjoyed smearing on others back on you, I think of you as a hypocrite.

There's nothing to argue about that, nutty. In my view you are a hypocrite, and now, because of the way you have acted in this thread, I have other and more concerning opinions of you.

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 10:26 AM

Here's something more for you to increase your postcount with;

It is typical of you politically correct lefties to not accept dissent or even innocently different opinions. Everything must be your way, and those who dare disagree will end up in the gulag, or at least receive their share of lame and overused epithets if you are not in power in some communist assdungeon of a country. You are the definition of intolerance.

Swallow the bait.

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 10:49 AM

I am going out for a short while, but I'll be back soon enough. I have decided to throw your obsession a bone though. Show me why I should NOT view you as I do.

If you convince me that what I have read into your posts on this forum is not right, that you are not a politically correct little loser, then you will have my sincerest apologies and of course the full retraction of my comment.

Do I think you will be able to do so? No. But you are the one not accepting my opinion of you, so it's in your yard.

Pornopat 11-08-2004 10:49 AM

So much stupidity and hate in one thread.
The slaughter was done by an extremist moslim. Keyword here is not moslim but extremist. Get rid of extremist by putting them in jail.

jimmyf 11-08-2004 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Here's something more for you to increase your postcount with;

It is typical of you politically correct lefties to not accept dissent or even innocently different opinions. Everything must be your way, and those who dare disagree will end up in the gulag, or at least receive their share of lame and overused epithets if you are not in power in some communist assdungeon of a country. You are the definition of intolerance.

Swallow the bait.

Now I like this. Man I really don't think you know how right you are. :1orglaugh

If you don't mind I'll save this for my lefties friends, very good.

Libertine 11-08-2004 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
You just can't come to acceptance with my opinion of you as being a hypocrite, can you?

You have already admitted to and shown your use of the mentioned words typically employed by the politically correct (in spite of your lie above about not using them), and your own opinions and words in this and many other threads have made it clear that, certainly, you have much in agreement with the politically correct and the more leftist side of the political scale (in terms of race, immigration, socialism, and so forth). Therefore, when I am given the option to apply one of these labels that you have enjoyed smearing on others back on you, I think of you as a hypocrite.

What do I have in agreement with "the politically correct" and "the more leftist side of the political scale"?

Facts, please, not innuendo.

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
It is typical of you politically correct lefties to not accept dissent or even innocently different opinions. Everything must be your way, and those who dare disagree will end up in the gulag, or at least receive their share of lame and overused epithets if you are not in power in some communist assdungeon of a country. You are the definition of intolerance.
Bullshit. Me calling you a fucking moron does not mean I don't think you shouldn't have freedom of speech.

The guy who just got killed here in Holland (whe the thread is about) used words like "goatfuckers" for muslims, called Muhammed "Allah's pimp", etc. That's also a part of freedom of speech - the freedom to call idiots idiots, to call morons morons, and to call pigfuckers pigfuckers.

Understand that, you idiotic pigfucking moron?



Now, as for my political position, here's a really short summary:

- I believe in as much social freedom as possible for the individual, insofar as it is compatible with as much social freedom as possible for everyone else.

- I believe in the free market and consider it to be the only possible way in which a country can be prosperous.

- I believe in self-ownership, and do not think that one should be forced to work for others (e.g. through means like taxes). However, one should pay taxes for the use of society (infrastructure, education for employees, police protection, etc).

- I believe that immigration should only be allowed to those who are willing and able to both be of economic value to a country and respect a nation's laws and structure. The only exception to this are people whose lives are in danger - they should get asylum until it is safe to return, but no longer than that.

- I believe that those who are able to work but refuse the opportunity, can starve in peace. No free handouts for the lazy.

- I believe that freedom of speech should always be completely free.

- I believe that those who fight society by means of violence (e.g. muslim fundamentalists), should be locked up.

- I believe that people of any race, sex, creed or whatever are fully responsible for their own actions, and should bear the consequences of them.

- I believe a country should be governed through rationality, not emotion.


Now, tell me, what in here makes me a "leftie" or "politically correct"?

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
What do I have in agreement with "the politically correct" and "the more leftist side of the political scale"?

Facts, please, not innuendo.

Your posts on this forum are leaning that way when you debate on topics associated with it. What issues that would be? I have already said that, don't make me repeat myself again, my senile friend.

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Originally posted by punkworld
Bullshit. Me calling you a fucking moron does not mean I don't think you shouldn't have freedom of speech.

The guy who just got killed here in Holland (whe the thread is about) used words like "goatfuckers" for muslims, called Muhammed "Allah's pimp", etc. That's also a part of freedom of speech - the freedom to call idiots idiots, to call morons morons, and to call pigfuckers pigfuckers.

Understand that, you idiotic pigfucking moron?

Well, thank you for the compliments, they really warmed my heart! Because you are such a calm, kind, and rational individual, I'll just ignore the part of your post that you spent half an eternity to cook up, as I know that will enable your passion to get to the level where you can make even more of a fool out of yourself (completely without effort on my behalf). :)

Libertine 11-08-2004 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Your posts on this forum are leaning that way when you debate on topics associated with it. What issues that would be? I have already said that, don't make me repeat myself again, my senile friend.


Well, thank you for the compliments, they really warmed my heart! Because you are such a calm, kind, and rational individual, I'll just ignore the part of your post that you spent half an eternity to cook up, as I know that will enable your passion to get to the level where you can make even more of a fool out of yourself (completely without effort on my behalf). :)

That last part was actually a joke, dumb-ass :glugglug

Now stop trying to harass me on icq and get a life :1orglaugh

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
That last part was actually a joke, dumb-ass :glugglug

Now stop trying to harass me on icq and get a life :1orglaugh

Oh, that's convenient. A joke. Submitting the rest of your epithet-filled posts as evidence, I suggest that you became enraged because you are such a poor debater and a pretty fucked up individual (no offense intended).

Libertine 11-08-2004 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Oh, that's convenient. A joke. Submitting the rest of your epithet-filled posts as evidence, I suggest that you became enraged because you are such a poor debater and a pretty fucked up individual (no offense intended).
"the freedom to call idiots idiots, to call morons morons, and to call pigfuckers pigfuckers.

Understand that, you idiotic pigfucking moron?"

My sense of humor may not be great, but I'd think that it's clear that that's a joke. I don't get enraged at message board personas.

Now, I'm off to play Halo. Cheers :glugglug

Roald 11-08-2004 12:28 PM

you 2 should get a room :thumbsup

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
"the freedom to call idiots idiots, to call morons morons, and to call pigfuckers pigfuckers.

Understand that, you idiotic pigfucking moron?"

My sense of humor may not be great, but I'd think that it's clear that that's a joke. I don't get enraged at message board personas.

Now, I'm off to play Halo. Cheers :glugglug

No, if other people can't get away with jokes, analogies, or metaphorical comments without you taking it literally just to disagree, then how do you expect to get away with it yourself? And here I thought you said that you are not a hypocrite.

Therefore you did not joke, you became enraged because you don't have any arguments for whatever discussion it is that you have attempted.

:)

Repetitive Monkey 11-08-2004 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
you 2 should get a room :thumbsup
I tried to get him on ICQ, but he was scared of talking live. Go figure.

Libertine 11-08-2004 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
No, if other people can't get away with jokes, analogies, or metaphorical comments without you taking it literally just to disagree, then how do you expect to get away with it yourself? And here I thought you said that you are not a hypocrite.

Therefore you did not joke, you became enraged because you don't have any arguments for whatever discussion it is that you have attempted.

:)

Dude, you're starting to ramble rather incoherently :2 cents:

Shoehorn! 11-08-2004 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Dude, you're starting to ramble rather incoherently :2 cents:
At least this time hes not trying to stick up for someone who has been proven wrong on a number of occasions like he was the other night.

Repetitive Monkey 11-09-2004 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Dude, you're starting to ramble rather incoherently :2 cents:
Great, now you understand how I view your posts.

Repetitive Monkey 11-09-2004 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
At least this time hes not trying to stick up for someone who has been proven wrong on a number of occasions like he was the other night.
I stuck up for...who?

Are you sure you are not confusing me with someone else? I can't remember having stuck up for someone on this forum, especially not "the other night."


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