Can someone explain how I have over 200,000 hits from a certain domain... - GoFuckYourself.com

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:05 PM

...but they are not an affiliate and claim they have no links up to one of our sites? They are in the toplist of referers, from a login.php page on another paysite. The operator of the site says she has no clue, that maybe her members are leaving her site and typing in mine or they have bookmarks to mine.

Over 200.000 hits is less than two weeks, and ideas?

Thanks,
Bill

zzgundamnzz · 10-30-2004, 07:10 PM

Maybe those people are getting yours and her site off of a password list site?

Spunky · 10-30-2004, 07:11 PM

Freakin bots

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Maybe those people are getting yours and her site off of a password list site?

Didn't think about that one.

Also another note, my referer logs were not rotected for a few days until I discovered this.

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by spunky
Freakin bots

But what reason would they have for botting my site? They are not affiliates, nor are they selling me traffic. No exits, nada.

detoxed · 10-30-2004, 07:15 PM

do they have forums

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
do they have forums

No, the url is like this...

http://www.deleted.com/login/login.php

Intrigue · 10-30-2004, 07:22 PM

I'm about 90% certain that a browser will not send a 'referrer header' unless that site somehow refers them (link, redirect, etc..) I've never had to think about it, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't just send the last page you were on

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Intrigue
I'm about 90% certain that a browser will not send a 'referrer header' unless that site somehow refers them (link, redirect, etc..) I've never had to think about it, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't just send the last page you were on

http://www.deleted.com/login/login.php <<-------This is what is in my stats if that helps, but there is no visible sign of a link or anything on that site, not even in the member area (according to the site owner) to my site.

goBigtime · 10-30-2004, 07:37 PM

ref spamming you maybe.

Alex · 10-30-2004, 07:39 PM

If it helps.

I know the guy who runs it.

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
If it helps.

I know the guy who runs it.

Runs what? "deleted.com"? That was an example used, I deleted the actual domain in question.

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
ref spamming you maybe.

Is there any way to prove that is what is happening?

Alex · 10-30-2004, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by newbreed
Runs what? "deleted.com"? That was an example used, I deleted the actual domain in question.

ahh okay.

I thought it was deleted.com
I know that guy.

Sama · 10-30-2004, 07:45 PM

Maybe they are using your content within their members area? Is your content marked with your domain name?

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
ahh okay.

I thought it was deleted.com
I know that guy.

Ok, sorry I wasn't more clear about it before...lol I should have made it more obvious.

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by Sama
Maybe they are using your content within their members area? Is your content marked with your domain name?

I thought that also, and not all of my content is marked. It's another single-girl site involved, so the traffic is right for the site, but they would make much more in return if they just signed up...lol

OzMan · 10-30-2004, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by newbreed
Is there any way to prove that is what is happening?

Yup, it sounds like refbombing to me.

Why? I have no idea. Maybe somebody who doesn't like you or the other site and wants to make trouble or at least fuck up your stats.

Check other info in your logs/stats like IP(same or lottsa proxies), header etc to help determine if it is indeed spoofing the refs.

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by OzMan
Yup, it sounds like refbombing to me.

Why? I have no idea. Maybe somebody who doesn't like you or the other site and wants to make trouble or at least fuck up your stats.

Check other info in your logs/stats like IP(same or lottsa proxies), header etc to help determine if it is indeed spoofing the refs.

All the things you listed are there, this is what I was trying to confim

Odin88 · 10-30-2004, 07:57 PM

Get your ref spammer at www.adminshop.com .

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Fuck over people who made it by working long and hard and being original at www.adminsh0p.com .

OzMan · 10-30-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by newbreed
All the things you listed are there, this is what I was trying to confim

Maybe it's your good buddy from down under's way of saying he misses you.

Beerbar · 10-30-2004, 10:12 PM

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Check other info in your logs/stats like IP(same or lottsa proxies), header etc to help determine if it is indeed spoofing the refs.

The same thing happens to me, (not the same site but other paysite member log in url appearing to link to mine) I'm with nationalnet and the tech guys there, said basically it was brute force attack with a spoofed url

Odin88 · 10-30-2004, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by newbreed
piss off whiney little faggots like me. buy the refspammer from www.adminshop.com and make me cry!

vixm · 10-30-2004, 10:26 PM

Yeah, I would say check log files for the same IP. You may even need to block the entire IP block.

One other thing no one pointed out. Is someone mass spamming your site?

If the domain showed 'links' to your domain it's possible your stats program / script is counting it over and over.

Why they would spam your Email? I dunno.

Repetitive Monkey · 10-30-2004, 10:27 PM

AdminShop sells evil software for evil people who like money. Shame on them.

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
I can't make it in this business without being honest and doing the wrong thing, and I sell my wares to other people so they too can be a fucking crook like me!

Odin88 · 10-30-2004, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by newbreed
I am a little pissant who works all day and all night long to earn the same amount of money Odin88 earns in an hour of sleep.

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
One of these days I will make half of what NewBreed makes a week. I'm still working on it now though. If I keep working hard enough, I may make it. I think I may even think of something original so I don't have to sell some of my software that takes advantage of honest, hardworking people like him. Of course, I am an ass, so I probably will continue to provide tools that help other people make money by cheating and being generally dishonest. We'll see though, because there is BIG money in helping other people rip people off!

JulianSosa · 10-30-2004, 11:31 PM

I have a theory.
Along time ago I had some paysites that would get a shitload of hits from other paysite members areas. At first I thought the other members areas were stealing my content. I came to the conclusion that we were listed on the same refferer spoofing program. One after the other. I Know it was not password sites because we had great password sharing protection with proxy pass.

newbreed · 10-30-2004, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa
I have a theory.
Along time ago I had some paysites that would get a shitload of hits from other paysite members areas. At first I thought the other members areas were stealing my content. I came to the conclusion that we were listed on the same refferer spoofing program. One after the other. I Know it was not password sites because we had great password sharing protection with proxy pass.

Same here with the password control, that's why I strongly believe it's ref. spam.

JulianSosa · 10-30-2004, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by newbreed
Same here with the password control, that's why I strongly believe it's ref. spam.

Not ref spamming, Ref Spoofing. Is the members area using refferer protection?

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Intrigue Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio, US Posts: 662	I'm about 90% certain that a browser will not send a 'referrer header' unless that site somehow refers them (link, redirect, etc..) I've never had to think about it, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't just send the last page you were on

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goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	ref spamming you maybe.

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Odin88 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: au Posts: 3,267	Get your ref spammer at www.adminshop.com .

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vixm Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 605	Yeah, I would say check log files for the same IP. You may even need to block the entire IP block. One other thing no one pointed out. Is someone mass spamming your site? If the domain showed 'links' to your domain it's possible your stats program / script is counting it over and over. Why they would spam your Email? I dunno. __________________ [sig offline]

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Repetitive Monkey Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,505	AdminShop sells evil software for evil people who like money. Shame on them.

10-30-2004, 11:31 PM	#30
JulianSosa Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,042	I have a theory. Along time ago I had some paysites that would get a shitload of hits from other paysite members areas. At first I thought the other members areas were stealing my content. I came to the conclusion that we were listed on the same refferer spoofing program. One after the other. I Know it was not password sites because we had great password sharing protection with proxy pass.