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SomeCreep · 10-27-2004, 09:35 PM

fiddy

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 09:37 PM

Here is the bottom line. I do not give a fuck what you believe. I was just trying to tell everyone some of the things that I learned from speaking to them.

Many businesses in this country go belly up and people do not get paid. Here you have a company that is trying to get the money to pay everyone and you threaten lawsuits and piss and moan. Go ahead and file a lawsuit. It would take 2-3 years to go to trial and by that time you will have either gotten paid or they will be out of business. Quit your fucking crying and see what happens over the next week.

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Your lack of professionalism doesn't help your case.

You are missing the point. I do not have a case. I do not care what you believe.

boobmaster · 10-27-2004, 09:40 PM

From the CMI:

We are continuing to evaluate the timeframe in which we anticipate payments to be caught up. We will be posting another update by close of business Friday, October 29, 2004

This doesn't look good, IMHO.

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
You are also very eloquent. Your anger management counseling progresses smoothly I am sure with communication skills like that.

Anger management. LMFAO!!!

I noticed you did not dispute the shit hole city you live in. The truth hurts.

Drake · 10-27-2004, 09:42 PM

I think they'll come through. If they were intending to keep any funds they wouldn't be paying anybody. But some webmasters are being paid, abeit only EU webmasters thus far.

scoreman · 10-27-2004, 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Do you think they will have this worked out soon? I really can't afford to keep missing paydays like this. I have noticed that your tone has changed a bit over the past month, from more positive to more negative. Being the big time player that you are, your change in tone concerns me a bit. I really want to believe they will pay us soon, but I am starting to have serious doubts based on the lack of timely updates in the CMI.

IBill getting caught up is going to depend alot of whether they can get short term funding. At this point First Data is not something I would expect to be resolved in a matter of days or even weeks, its going to take either a bank giving them a line of credit or investors opening their deep pockets. The line of credit would seem to require some personal guarantees, which I am sure put some lead weight in the signature arms of the principals at iBill when iBill was not even able to function domestically. Now that they can do something in United States for Visa maybe that will change.

psyko514 · 10-27-2004, 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
How do you know what happened when I met them? How do you know they did not pay me? You know shit about what we spoke about except from what I told you.

Another fucking Canuck. Cheap pricks.

Newsflash, dickhead: You didn't meet them. Quit dreaming.

Either you work for them, or you're a lame troll. Either way, I don't give a fuck. I don't process with IBill. I saw the signs long ago.

And there's no way in hell I'd process with them in the future after all this shit.

boobmaster · 10-27-2004, 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
You are missing the point. I do not have a case. I do not care what you believe.

The point is you have ZERO credibility, and you act like a 4th grader.

keyboard warrior · 10-27-2004, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
Oh and the 6 months reserve, yes I totally agree with that and practice that policy on a personal as well as professional basis. Fact of the matter is though that many people live paycheck to paycheck and the adult industry is no different. These folks have been affected and I don't think you can say that they have no right to be angry about this situation. To come on here and say that everyone should be happy because they got the stored value card project going to process Visa is not going to help those people deal with the fact that its the end of the month and rent is due in a few days.

Well said!

also FUCK BUSH! HE SUX

boobmaster · 10-27-2004, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
IBill getting caught up is going to depend alot of whether they can get short term funding. At this point First Data is not something I would expect to be resolved in a matter of days or even weeks, its going to take either a bank giving them a line of credit or investors opening their deep pockets. The line of credit would seem to require some personal guarantees, which I am sure put some lead weight in the signature arms of the principals at iBill when iBill was not even able to function domestically. Now that they can do something in United States for Visa maybe that will change.

Fine, but they at least need to start paying current amounts to their clients. I don't know many businesses that fare too well not paying out for six months.

boobmaster · 10-27-2004, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by Mike33
I think they'll come through. If they were intending to keep any funds they wouldn't be paying anybody. But some webmasters are being paid, abeit only EU webmasters thus far.

They need to start spreading the wealth a bit. VERY SOON.

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
Newsflash, dickhead: You didn't meet them. Quit dreaming.

Either you work for them, or you're a lame troll. Either way, I don't give a fuck. I don't process with IBill. I saw the signs long ago.

And there's no way in hell I'd process with them in the future after all this shit.

News flash asshole....I do not work for IBILL. I do not care what you believe and you obviously do give a fuck or you would not be responding.

You are one stupid canuck.

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
The point is you have ZERO credibility, and you act like a 4th grader.

I will write this one more time. I do not care what you believe.

psyko514 · 10-27-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
You are missing the point. I do not have a case. I do not care what you believe.

Then why'd you start the thread, fucknut?

I'll tell you why. You figured people would buy into your bullshit story, thinking you're some cool guy, and they'd praise you for being so cool.

But that plan backfired, so you figured you'd just sling lame insults at everyone.

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
Then why'd you start the thread, fucknut?

I'll tell you why. You figured people would buy into your bullshit story, thinking you're some cool guy, and they'd praise you for being so cool.

But that plan backfired, so you figured you'd just sling lame insults at everyone.

Wrong again you stupid fucking canuck. You will see in the next fews days that I am correct and you are an asshole.

scoreman · 10-27-2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck

Do you have bars on your windows living in that shit hole city?

Here's the view I have out my back window. It is pretty awful, I know. It's a daily stuggle that I carry with me only with the support of my two kids and loving wife, or else I too might be on the message boards challenging people to fistfights.

psyko514 · 10-27-2004, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
News flash asshole....I do not work for IBILL. I do not care what you believe and you obviously do give a fuck or you would not be responding.

You are one stupid canuck.

Let's use your own lame argument against you. If you didn't care whether or not I believed you, you wouldn't be responding to me.

I responding to you for amusement. As I said, I have no ties to IBill and no use for them. Your posts amuse me however, so I have fun replying to them.

psyko514 · 10-27-2004, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
Wrong again you stupid fucking canuck. You will see in the next fews days that I am correct and you are an asshole.

By the way, what does me being Canadian have to do with any of this?

Keep crying, fucknut. Maybe eventually someone will believe your bullshit and tell you what a cool guy you are, thereby validating your whole trolling experience.

jayeff · 10-27-2004, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Cogitator
The reason iBill hasn't paid out recently isn't because they don't have the money. The money is being held in some bank accounts that have been frozen while disputes are settled between iBill and the banks. There is no catching up to do, really. And no, I don't work for iBill. Merchant agreements work this way. They can freeze your money if there is a dispute.

The only money which should have been affected by the problems with iBill's processing arrangements were, the holdbacks and "current" sales made immediately before the split.

So iBill failing to pay out on time means that the company has zero reserves (or is unwilling to dip into them) and is unwilling or unable to raise money to meet its committments. If it is true that there are no funds to deal with contingencies, that is grossly unprofessional at the very least. Whether the payments could be made or not, this is the second time in the past couple of years that iBill have screwed up and passed the full impact of its own problems straight along to its clients.

Whether iBill recovers or not, pays out eventually or not, surely no one is going to do business with them in future?

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
Let's use your own lame argument against you. If you didn't care whether or not I believed you, you wouldn't be responding to me.

I responding to you for amusement. As I said, I have no ties to IBill and no use for them. Your posts amuse me however, so I have fun replying to them.

Since you claim not have have an IBILL account you should have not even looked in the thread. If this is how you get your amusement you lead a pretty shitty life.

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
By the way, what does me being Canadian have to do with any of this?

Keep crying, fucknut. Maybe eventually someone will believe your bullshit and tell you what a cool guy you are, thereby validating your whole trolling experience.

I have never met a Canadien who was not a cheap fucking prick.

I suggest you learn how to read ENGLISH. We will see in the next few days if I was correct. When you find out I was correct you can start a thread apologizing to me.

psyko514 · 10-27-2004, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
Since you claim not have have an IBILL account you should have not even looked in the thread. If this is how you get your amusement you lead a pretty shitty life.

Nope, just a boring Wednesday night.

I looked in the thread specifically to see what bullshit you had to spew this time.

So, explain to us why you're so anonymous.

scoreman · 10-27-2004, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by jayeff
Whether the payments could be made or not, this is the second time in the past couple of years that iBill have screwed up and passed the full impact of its own problems straight along to its clients.

You are referring to the much discussed web900 right? In all fairness to iBill you should be aware that iBill did not pass the full impact of that problem to the clients. iBill was paying out web900 before they actually received monies from Worldcom. When Worldcom went belly up, iBill had in fact already paid out a huge sum of money. The missing payments were the next payments in line. Of the amount that was owed by Worldcom to iBill, roughly half of that amount was paid to the clients by iBill. The total loss on that fiasco was closer to a 50/50 split with the clients eating half and iBill eating the other half.

Mike33, I too also believe iBill will pay. I just take exception to someone coming on here telling people that they should be happy with the situation as it currently stands.

boobmaster · 10-27-2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by jayeff
The only money which should have been affected by the problems with iBill's processing arrangements were, the holdbacks and "current" sales made immediately before the split.

So iBill failing to pay out on time means that the company has zero reserves (or is unwilling to dip into them) and is unwilling or unable to raise money to meet its committments. If it is true that there are no funds to deal with contingencies, that is grossly unprofessional at the very least. Whether the payments could be made or not, this is the second time in the past couple of years that iBill have screwed up and passed the full impact of its own problems straight along to its clients.

Whether iBill recovers or not, pays out eventually or not, surely no one is going to do business with them in future?

What I would like to know is why they can't pay us on the MC accounts they have been billing all month. They are rebilling MC clients. Why are they not paying us?

I wonder if any of their actions can be considered criminal. Someone needs to audit their books to determine exactly what kind of financial shape ibill is in.

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
Nope, just a boring Wednesday night.

I looked in the thread specifically to see what bullshit you had to spew this time.

So, explain to us why you're so anonymous.

It is your business to know who I am for what reason?

Lawyerssuck · 10-27-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
What I would like to know is why they can't pay us on the MC accounts they have been billing all month. They are rebilling MC clients. Why are they not paying us?

I wonder if any of their actions can be considered criminal. Someone needs to audit their books to determine exactly what kind of financial shape ibill is in.

lets say you are correct and it is criminal. What are you going to do?

Lets say you get an audit done and it is determined they do not have any money. Then how do you get paid?

You have to think of what you are asking to be done. It will not help you one bit.

Calvinguy · 10-27-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
I got a wire from them today, so don't assume too much.

Serious? You are with Ibill EU right? Do you see the payment details in the CMI also?

Steen2 · 10-27-2004, 10:15 PM

Shoplifter · 10-27-2004, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Calvinguy
Serious? You are with Ibill EU right? Do you see the payment details in the CMI also?

Yep Ibill EU. As far as I can see I am caught up except for the Sep 30 reserve payment. There is no check date or info for todays wire in the CMI currently.

psyko514 · 10-27-2004, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
It is your business to know who I am for what reason?

You're posting here because you want us to believe you. Give your words some credibility, or don't post them at all.

boobmaster · 10-27-2004, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
Yep Ibill EU. As far as I can see I am caught up except for the Sep 30 reserve payment. There is no check date or info for todays wire in the CMI currently.

Are their EU clients somehow more valuable than their US clients? We are a month behind.

pussyluver · 10-27-2004, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
It is your business to know who I am for what reason?

Who is Lawyerssuck? None of our biz??? In a way maybe not, but you're slingin some shit around.

Let's see, you can drive to the Ibill office.

I suspect you have another board. You sound a bit like Trey, but prolly not him (long drive to Ibill).

Think i've heard you talk like this before, but only when drinking. Plus your high opinion of lawyers.

Anyone have a guess? Think I know. More clues, someone that used Ibill and saw the shit on the way. Changed a year ago (guess) or so?? Kept them on for rebills and secondary.

A program all would know and have been around awhile.

pussyluver · 10-27-2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Who is Lawyerssuck? None of our biz??? In a way maybe not, but you're slingin some shit around.

Let's see, you can drive to the Ibill office.

I suspect you have another board. You sound a bit like Trey, but prolly not him (long drive to Ibill).

Think i've heard you talk like this before, but only when drinking. Plus your high opinion of lawyers.

Anyone have a guess? Think I know. More clues, someone that used Ibill and saw the shit on the way. Changed a year ago (guess) or so?? Kept them on for rebills and secondary.

A program all would know and have been around awhile.

Has excellent tatse in woman

Easton · 10-27-2004, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Aren't you the same guy that thought penthouse stock would overperform?

hahaha... i dunno if that was him, but some idiots on here thought it was a "deal" at 15 cents or some shit... i tried to tell them it was a piece of shit...

those bright asshats have lost half their money since then
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=PHSL.PK

pornguy · 10-27-2004, 11:27 PM

I personally do not like iBill, and I have my reasons, but it is good news for the industry.
If they get rid of our processors, we are condemned!

tony286 · 10-27-2004, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
Here's the view I have out my back window. It is pretty awful, I know. It's a daily stuggle that I carry with me only with the support of my two kids and loving wife, or else I too might be on the message boards challenging people to fistfights.

I hope we can get down there one day so we can smoke some nice cigars together in the very nice backyard you have

pussyluver · 10-27-2004, 11:46 PM

A cigar and a glass of scotch. invite me in that case.

chupacabra · 10-27-2004, 11:47 PM

woof woof..

pussyluver · 10-27-2004, 11:59 PM

foaming at the crotch.

pornguy · 10-28-2004, 12:24 AM

This is not the first company for this to hapen to, and will not be the last.

Red Ezra · 10-28-2004, 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by .:St Ides:.
Did they also tell you to host with likewhoa

Hehe - I got caught up in that too - geeez!

quiet · 10-28-2004, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by scoreman
Here's the view I have out my back window. It is pretty awful, I know. It's a daily stuggle that I carry with me only with the support of my two kids and loving wife, or else I too might be on the message boards challenging people to fistfights.

nice.

Lawyerssuck · 10-29-2004, 10:54 PM

To all of those stupid fucks who called me a liar. GO FUCK YOURSELVES you pieces of shit.

You mother fuckers think you know everything but you do not know shit. You are a bunch of scumbags who live paycheck to paycheck and that is pathetic.

Lawyerssuck · 10-31-2004, 03:02 PM

I noticed that all of those scumbags just disappeared and do not have any balls.

You are a bunch of pussy's!!!

Basic_man · 10-31-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
good news if true

I agree

Shap · 10-31-2004, 03:17 PM

Lawyersuck you sound like a big timer and high roller. I bet your wife has a 5+ karat rock.

directfiesta · 10-31-2004, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
To all of those stupid fucks who called me a liar. GO FUCK YOURSELVES you pieces of shit.

You mother fuckers think you know everything but you do not know shit. You are a bunch of scumbags who live paycheck to paycheck and that is pathetic.

You really have a problem....

Seing anyone for that ?

Lawyerssuck · 10-31-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
You really have a problem....

Seing anyone for that ?

I am seeing your mother you stupid fuck. I was right and you were wrong so go fuck yourself.

Lawyerssuck · 10-31-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by shap
Lawyersuck you sound like a big timer and high roller. I bet your wife has a 5+ karat rock.

No, not even close.

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Lawyerssuck Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 194	Here is the bottom line. I do not give a fuck what you believe. I was just trying to tell everyone some of the things that I learned from speaking to them. Many businesses in this country go belly up and people do not get paid. Here you have a company that is trying to get the money to pay everyone and you threaten lawsuits and piss and moan. Go ahead and file a lawsuit. It would take 2-3 years to go to trial and by that time you will have either gotten paid or they will be out of business. Quit your fucking crying and see what happens over the next week.

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boobmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,185	From the CMI: We are continuing to evaluate the timeframe in which we anticipate payments to be caught up. We will be posting another update by close of business Friday, October 29, 2004 This doesn't look good, IMHO.

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	I think they'll come through. If they were intending to keep any funds they wouldn't be paying anybody. But some webmasters are being paid, abeit only EU webmasters thus far.

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Lawyerssuck Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 194	To all of those stupid fucks who called me a liar. GO FUCK YOURSELVES you pieces of shit. You mother fuckers think you know everything but you do not know shit. You are a bunch of scumbags who live paycheck to paycheck and that is pathetic.

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Lawyerssuck Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 194	I noticed that all of those scumbags just disappeared and do not have any balls. You are a bunch of pussy's!!!

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Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Lawyersuck you sound like a big timer and high roller. I bet your wife has a 5+ karat rock.