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Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 04:21 PM

IBILL taking Visa
 
Expect IBILL to be able to process VISA in the USA within the next couple of days. This tells me they are coming back and that is great news. Everyone who is owed money should be happy about this and stop complaining that they are not getting paid.

If IBILL had the money they would pay you. Now that they will start to process VISA they will be able to get caught up and make everyone happy again.

4Pics 10-27-2004 04:23 PM

good news if true

but where's the link to your source?

AndrewKanuck 10-27-2004 04:23 PM

Aren't you the same guy that thought penthouse stock would overperform?

rowan 10-27-2004 04:23 PM

They shouldn't be relying on this weeks pay check to cover last weeks bills. Many people have dropped ibill from their rotation, or moved away completely. They will not be processing nearly as many transactions as they used to. I hope they can cover everything.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
good news if true

but where's the link to your source?

Why do I need a link? I just went to their office and spoke to them. It really is that easy.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Aren't you the same guy that thought penthouse stock would overperform?
Overperform?

AndrewKanuck 10-27-2004 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
Why do I need a link? I just went to their office and spoke to them. It really is that easy.
They sure spinned you good.

Captain-Obvious 10-27-2004 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
Expect IBILL to be able to process VISA in the USA within the next couple of days. This tells me they are coming back and that is great news. Everyone who is owed money should be happy about this and stop complaining that they are not getting paid.

If IBILL had the money they would pay you. Now that they will start to process VISA they will be able to get caught up and make everyone happy again.

Even if Ibill survives it will take years to catch everyone up if they are depending on new income to pay for it.

Royal Cash 10-27-2004 04:40 PM

that will be great

wish a big good luck to ibill , they are great :thumbsup

.:St Ides:. 10-27-2004 04:43 PM

Did they also tell you to host with likewhoa

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
They sure spinned you good.
I just realized you are in canada. A bunch of cheap stupid fucks live in Canada.

AndrewKanuck 10-27-2004 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
I just realized you are in canada. A bunch of cheap stupid fucks live in Canada.
Did IBill tell you that too - I'm fairly certain you swallow anything from a company affiliated with Penthouse

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Captain-Obvious
Even if Ibill survives it will take years to catch everyone up if they are depending on new income to pay for it.
YEARS? Do any of you know pay attention to anything. First Data can hold their money for about another 6 months (depending on what the contract states). Once they get that money they will definately pay everyone.

If they get the money before that you will see your money.

If they were looking to screw everyone they would not pay anyone.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Did IBill tell you that too - I'm fairly certain you swallow anything from a company affiliated with Penthouse
The only thing I swallowed lately was after your mother came all over the place.

dirtysouth 10-27-2004 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
The only thing I swallowed lately was after your mother came all over the place.
That was a goood one! Will you be performing here all week? :1orglaugh

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by dirtysouth
That was a goood one! Will you be performing here all week? :1orglaugh
I take requests but I cannot guarantee that I will be able to help you. I have a ton of material to use.

whatif_3 10-27-2004 05:01 PM

here is how:

Subject: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=5650206

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by whatif_3
here is how:

Subject: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=5650206

The Email is what prompted me to go ask some questions. I am in South florida this week so it was an easy trip to Deerfield beach.

Gottis 10-27-2004 05:11 PM

They say anything else? Did you get a chance to talk to the CMI guy? :winkwink:

whatif_3 10-27-2004 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
The Email is what prompted me to go ask some questions. I am in South florida this week so it was an easy trip to Deerfield beach.
did you ask them what sort of ground they feel that they are standing on when they are running their transactions through an entity that is an issuing bank, acquiring bank, and the merchant, all ni one?

Shoplifter 10-27-2004 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Captain-Obvious
Even if Ibill survives it will take years to catch everyone up if they are depending on new income to pay for it.
I got a wire from them today, so don't assume too much.

Nima Z. 10-27-2004 05:22 PM

thats great that they might come back....but really...is anyone gonna trust a company that jacked em up for a couple months...hmmm...dont think so

directfiesta 10-27-2004 05:57 PM

Maybe, .. as a secondary biller.... and for existing rebills...

I wish that they survive and am willing to play ball with them ... but they have to be truthfull ...

SpeakEasy 10-27-2004 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by .:St Ides:.
Did they also tell you to host with likewhoa
hahahhahahha....Now that was funny :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

tony286 10-27-2004 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
I got a wire from them today, so don't assume too much.
I agree

boobmaster 10-27-2004 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
YEARS? Do any of you know pay attention to anything. First Data can hold their money for about another 6 months (depending on what the contract states). Once they get that money they will definately pay everyone.

If they get the money before that you will see your money.

If they were looking to screw everyone they would not pay anyone.

Six months? They promised to be caught up by the 31st and I am holding them to that promise. If they wait six months, they won't have any customers left.

Webby 10-27-2004 08:06 PM

Lawyerssuck:

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Why do I need a link? I just went to their office and spoke to them. It really is that easy.
Do you seriously think any crap spoken in the offices of iBill is relevant???

If so, you ain't seen many companies in trouble. They don't even tell their staff the truth. That is confined to a very close group.

Sure.. I wish em well - it's not an easy course to work thru.

If they get outta this situation, perhaps they will have learned a few lessons.

The day they pay everyone money owed is the day they have any cred.

That has not happened.

AndrewKanuck 10-27-2004 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Six months? They promised to be caught up by the 31st and I am holding them to that promise. If they wait six months, they won't have any customers left.
Why are you back? For christs sake...

scoreman 10-27-2004 09:04 PM

The only thing I learned from this thread is that Lawyerssuck is probably part of the iBid/iBill/Penthouse team. People have the right to be angry with iBill, the management team grossly mismanaged the First Data exit which resulted in millions of dollars being in arrears in some cases approaching 6 weeks. Some people's mortgages, car payments, rent and even food have been affected by this. To say that because they are now processing Visa the iBill-owed people should be happy is insensitive and ridiculous.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
The only thing I learned from this thread is that Lawyerssuck is probably part of the iBid/iBill/Penthouse team. People have the right to be angry with iBill, the management team grossly mismanaged the First Data exit which resulted in millions of dollars being in arrears in some cases approaching 6 weeks. Some people's mortgages, car payments, rent and even food have been affected by this. To say that because they are now processing Visa the iBill-owed people should be happy is insensitive and ridiculous.
You need to go back to school because what you think you learned is bullshit. I do not work for IBD, IBILL or Penthouse.

Now reading the last part of your statement I need to pass you a tissue. Do not cry to much. Everything will be OK.

tony286 10-27-2004 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
The only thing I learned from this thread is that Lawyerssuck is probably part of the iBid/iBill/Penthouse team. People have the right to be angry with iBill, the management team grossly mismanaged the First Data exit which resulted in millions of dollars being in arrears in some cases approaching 6 weeks. Some people's mortgages, car payments, rent and even food have been affected by this. To say that because they are now processing Visa the iBill-owed people should be happy is insensitive and ridiculous.
If you are in business for yourself , you should have a shit happens fund because in business shit happens. For main stream they say you should have 6 months of living expenses ready and mainstream is alot more secure than our crazy industry.Noone really knows what happen with First Data unless any of us sat in on the meetings we dont know .What was said and what actually happened. Think about about it , a company thats whole purpose is processing is going to drop the ball like that. I dont believe it was that simple.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by Nima Z.
thats great that they might come back....but really...is anyone gonna trust a company that jacked em up for a couple months...hmmm...dont think so
This just does not make any sense. If they pay everyone that shows credibility and people will use IBILL in the future.

Now if they declared bankruptcy and opened up as another company then your statement would make sense.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
If you are in business for yourself , you should have a shit happens fund because in business shit happens. For main stream they say you should have 6 months of living expenses ready and mainstream is alot more secure than our crazy industry.Noone really knows what happen with First Data unless any of us sat in on the meetings we dont know .What was said and what actually happened. Think about about it , a company thats whole purpose is processing is going to drop the ball like that. I dont believe it was that simple.
I agree with you. I think IBILL had a deal with first Data to extend the contract and then they just shut IBILL down. I do not think IBILL just sat on their hands and did nothing. That just does not make any sense.

One day the truth will come out. At this point it really does not matter. They just have to get the money that is owed to them so they can pay all of their clients.

Cogitator 10-27-2004 09:17 PM

The reason iBill hasn't paid out recently isn't because they don't have the money. The money is being held in some bank accounts that have been frozen while disputes are settled between iBill and the banks. There is no catching up to do, really. And no, I don't work for iBill. Merchant agreements work this way. They can freeze your money if there is a dispute.

psyko514 10-27-2004 09:19 PM

Let's see... an anonymous troll who insults those whose opinions differ from his and who claims that he strolled into the IBill offices and they answered all his questions truthfully.

Guys, I see no reason why we shouldn't believe this guy. He's as legit and trustworthy as they get.

scoreman 10-27-2004 09:20 PM

You appeared here on GFY shortly after the iBill fiasco started and you have been active on pretty much all the iBill threads being a dick to anyone who would care to dissent from your opinion that everything is A-OK. People can make their own judgements on who you are.

There is one thing that I don't need any proof on to establish as the truth: your a dickhead with anger management issues. Go ahead, tell me next how your going to drive on down to Miami and kick my ass big boy. I think that will only be the 20th time you will have said something like this in your brief tenure here on GFY.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Maybe, .. as a secondary biller.... and for existing rebills...

I wish that they survive and am willing to play ball with them ... but they have to be truthfull ...

If they pay you does that show that they are being truthful? I say if they pay any of you, you should give them some business. I am not saying all of it because you should not give any company all of your business. If you do not think this cannot happen to CCBILL or EPOCH you are fooling yourself.

Remember the bank that a certain company is using that is based in Utah.

boobmaster 10-27-2004 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Why are you back? For christs sake...
I process with ibill. I have every right to be here and voice my concerns, just like you have every right to IGNORE me.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by Cogitator
The reason iBill hasn't paid out recently isn't because they don't have the money. The money is being held in some bank accounts that have been frozen while disputes are settled between iBill and the banks. There is no catching up to do, really. And no, I don't work for iBill. Merchant agreements work this way. They can freeze your money if there is a dispute.
This is a complete lie. Where did you get this information? If you are referring to first Datas bank then you are correct but I doubt that is what you are referring too.

scoreman 10-27-2004 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
If you are in business for yourself , you should have a shit happens fund because in business shit happens. For main stream they say you should have 6 months of living expenses ready and mainstream is alot more secure than our crazy industry.Noone really knows what happen with First Data unless any of us sat in on the meetings we dont know .What was said and what actually happened. Think about about it , a company thats whole purpose is processing is going to drop the ball like that. I dont believe it was that simple.
Tony, iBill filed court papers during the injunction hearing where they admitted that they were proceeding on an oral agreement. You tell me, was that a ball hitting the ground they admitted to?

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
You appeared here on GFY shortly after the iBill fiasco started and you have been active on pretty much all the iBill threads being a dick to anyone who would care to dissent from your opinion that everything is A-OK. People can make their own judgements on who you are.

There is one thing that I don't need any proof on to establish as the truth: your a dickhead with anger management issues. Go ahead, tell me next how your going to drive on down to Miami and kick my ass big boy. I think that will only be the 20th time you will have said something like this in your brief tenure here on GFY.

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!! I would not waste my time driving to that shit hole city you live in. Living in Miami is like living in fucking cuba. It is the scum of the earth and that tells me all I want to know about you.

boobmaster 10-27-2004 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Cogitator
The reason iBill hasn't paid out recently isn't because they don't have the money. The money is being held in some bank accounts that have been frozen while disputes are settled between iBill and the banks. There is no catching up to do, really. And no, I don't work for iBill. Merchant agreements work this way. They can freeze your money if there is a dispute.
Fine, but they keep rebilling non-VISA clients and WE have to pay the BW for them to access our sites. If they don't find a way to come through by the 31st like they PROMISED, they aren't going to have many customers left, if they still have any, that is.

They had/have been assuring me that they would be completely caught up by the 31st. If they break that promise, they will lose what little credibility they have left. And their lack of updates doesn't help them.

scoreman 10-27-2004 09:26 PM

Oh and the 6 months reserve, yes I totally agree with that and practice that policy on a personal as well as professional basis. Fact of the matter is though that many people live paycheck to paycheck and the adult industry is no different. These folks have been affected and I don't think you can say that they have no right to be angry about this situation. To come on here and say that everyone should be happy because they got the stored value card project going to process Visa is not going to help those people deal with the fact that its the end of the month and rent is due in a few days.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
Tony, iBill filed court papers during the injunction hearing where they admitted that they were proceeding on an oral agreement. You tell me, was that a ball hitting the ground they admitted to?
An oral agreement is a contract. Now if this is true and first Data lied then their was nothing IBILL could do but you do not know all of the circumstances.

As I wrote before the truth will come out one day but as of right now it does not matter.

Do you have bars on your windows living in that shit hole city?

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
Let's see... an anonymous troll who insults those whose opinions differ from his and who claims that he strolled into the IBill offices and they answered all his questions truthfully.

Guys, I see no reason why we shouldn't believe this guy. He's as legit and trustworthy as they get.

How do you know what happened when I met them? How do you know they did not pay me? You know shit about what we spoke about except from what I told you.

Another fucking Canuck. Cheap pricks.

boobmaster 10-27-2004 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
You appeared here on GFY shortly after the iBill fiasco started and you have been active on pretty much all the iBill threads being a dick to anyone who would care to dissent from your opinion that everything is A-OK. People can make their own judgements on who you are.

There is one thing that I don't need any proof on to establish as the truth: your a dickhead with anger management issues. Go ahead, tell me next how your going to drive on down to Miami and kick my ass big boy. I think that will only be the 20th time you will have said something like this in your brief tenure here on GFY.

Do you think they will have this worked out soon? I really can't afford to keep missing paydays like this. I have noticed that your tone has changed a bit over the past month, from more positive to more negative. Being the big time player that you are, your change in tone concerns me a bit. I really want to believe they will pay us soon, but I am starting to have serious doubts based on the lack of timely updates in the CMI.

Lawyerssuck 10-27-2004 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
I process with ibill. I have every right to be here and voice my concerns, just like you have every right to IGNORE me.
You will be the last one paid. Voting for Bush is not going to help you get paid. A complete moron who does not know the English language.

My favorite....NUCULER!!!!

scoreman 10-27-2004 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!! I would not waste my time driving to that shit hole city you live in. Living in Miami is like living in fucking cuba. It is the scum of the earth and that tells me all I want to know about you.
You are also very eloquent. Your anger management counseling progresses smoothly I am sure with communication skills like that.

boobmaster 10-27-2004 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
How do you know what happened when I met them? How do you know they did not pay me? You know shit about what we spoke about except from what I told you.

Another fucking Canuck. Cheap pricks.

Your lack of professionalism doesn't help your case.

boobmaster 10-27-2004 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
You will be the last one paid. Voting for Bush is not going to help you get paid. A complete moron who does not know the English language.

My favorite....NUCULER!!!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

They are going to pay me last because I am a Bush supporter? Just what I thought. You are a troll. Go kill yourself. :321GFY


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