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Grammar Police · 10-19-2004, 01:23 PM

Signup 4 Cash - Nasty shave routine based on the productivity and traffic of affiliates.

Medium Pimpin - Same as above.

VideosZ - Straight shave.

Click Cash - Straight shave on signups.

Join Right Now - Undercounting clicks and straight shave on signups.

Any others you guys know of that are definitely scammers?

There is some good news. There are some sponsors that I know for a FACT don't shave.

Adult Friend Finder
Soul Cash
Nasty Dollars

pimplink · 10-19-2004, 01:24 PM

have proof?

Grammar Police · 10-19-2004, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
have proof?

I've seen it with my own two eyes.

pimplink · 10-19-2004, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
I've seen it with my own two eyes.

been inside the admin interface?

Manowar · 10-19-2004, 01:26 PM

Dagwolf · 10-19-2004, 01:26 PM

Bah... I forgot to look at the thread author before I clicked.

No information here...

Grammar Police · 10-19-2004, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
been inside the admin interface?

Have you been scammed by any of these companies? If not, you shouldn't concern yourself with it. One of the above sponsors is getting ready to get a nasty surprise thanks to the proof I have. In the US, shaving constitutes fraud and is therefore a criminal offense.

Have you ever seen a program owner and a couple of employees arrested for shaving? If not, you're about to.

Methodcash Rick · 10-19-2004, 01:30 PM

We don't shave..

Here's need proof???

Oh, plus we use NATS.. 'nuff said..

Yes it's a shameless plug...

MethodCash.Com

pimplink · 10-19-2004, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
Have you been scammed by any of these companies? If not, you shouldn't concern yourself with it. One of the above sponsors is getting ready to get a nasty surprise thanks to the proof I have. In the US, shaving constitutes fraud and is therefore a criminal offense.

Have you ever seen a program owner and a couple of employees arrested for shaving? If not, you're about to.

cool

I'm an affiliate of some of these programs but not currently promoting them

Manowar · 10-19-2004, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
Have you been scammed by any of these companies? If not, you shouldn't concern yourself with it. One of the above sponsors is getting ready to get a nasty surprise thanks to the proof I have. In the US, shaving constitutes fraud and is therefore a criminal offense.

Have you ever seen a program owner and a couple of employees arrested for shaving? If not, you're about to.

That would be MASSIVE DRAMA

mailman · 10-19-2004, 01:34 PM

Grammar Police we dont shave.. but you claim to have proof so please let me be the first to ask for you to POST your proof! i would love to see it!

CyberBachelor · 10-19-2004, 01:36 PM

awaiting proof

Nader · 10-19-2004, 01:39 PM

Medium Pimpin Shave!!!!!! Are you sure about that. Wheres your proof man.

THey are a hard working honest crew

Roald · 10-19-2004, 01:39 PM

This thread is worthless without proof and you know it.

Sig placement!

rockbear · 10-19-2004, 01:40 PM

You can add every sponsor who use MPA2.

Really easy to shave with this program so your list can be really big now

Bryan Havoc · 10-19-2004, 01:40 PM

Grammar Police, that's bullshit. We send a lot of traffic to Medium Pimpin, and I can tell you for a fact that they don't shave.

Stand up guys over there.

Bryan Havoc · 10-19-2004, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockbear
You can add every sponsor who use MPA2.

Really easy to shave with this program so your list can be really big now

my company doesn't use MPA2, but for arguments sake, if I owned a gun, does that mean I'm going to kill people with it?

mailman · 10-19-2004, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockbear
You can add every sponsor who use MPA2.

Really easy to shave with this program so your list can be really big now

Funny due to that we moved off MPA about 4 months back because of all their programs shaving we did not want to be part of that group!

nofx · 10-19-2004, 01:42 PM

show some proof or this thread was a waste.

proof PROVES your statements.

mailman · 10-19-2004, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apx_bryan
my company doesn't use MPA2, but for arguments sake, if I owned a gun, does that mean I'm going to kill people with it?

Good point!

Grammar Police · 10-19-2004, 01:44 PM

If any of you know anything about the legal system, you'd understand why it isn't a good idea to show all of my cards. Technically this thread isn't a good idea but I want these guys to know who got them.

How does this sound:

12 credit cards, all valid and from different areas.

Ordered 12 memberships over 48 hours. 3 scrubbed, 9 went through. I was credited with 5. Somebody is in deep shit.

jact · 10-19-2004, 01:45 PM

Having been inside the admin interface for Medium Pimpin, I can guarentee you they don't shave. Simply knowing Kevin a little bit would tell you straight off that they run a tight, honest ship. Keep trolling, you may one day actually hit on a program that DOES shave.

Roald · 10-19-2004, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apx_bryan
my company doesn't use MPA2, but for arguments sake, if I owned a gun, does that mean I'm going to kill people with it?

exactly!

Furious_Male · 10-19-2004, 01:45 PM

I have no opinion regarding the original post or the programs mentioned, but I find it funny that so many think there is no way to tell if someone is shaving. There are plenty of ways. It takes a lot of time, but it can be done. I know without a doubt when I am being shaved and most of the time I can narrow down a percentage.

Everyone always says "PROOF". Fuck the proof. Why would I want to show my methods of weeding out the lousy sponsors. Do sponsors give us all the methods for weeding out fradulent affiliates? No because with the information they will just find new ways to fuck you.

The difference between myself and Grammar Police is I just stop promoting them or try to go with the eb and flow with the shave. I don't bother posting about it because the simple minded just don't understand.

anyway

Bryan Havoc · 10-19-2004, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
If any of you know anything about the legal system, you'd understand why it isn't a good idea to show all of my cards. Technically this thread isn't a good idea but I want these guys to know who got them.

How does this sound:

12 credit cards, all valid and from different areas.

Ordered 12 memberships over 48 hours. 3 scrubbed, 9 went through. I was credited with 5. Somebody is in deep shit.

If you knew the legal system you'd know that this would be considered slander.

johndoebob · 10-19-2004, 01:51 PM

Proofs please, but I must say I don't really promote three of them anymore because of the bad ratios compared to traffic sent according to my server logs.

Grammar Police · 10-19-2004, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apx_bryan
Grammar Police, that's bullshit. We send a lot of traffic to Medium Pimpin, and I can tell you for a fact that they don't shave.

Stand up guys over there.

That would be a terrible business decision unless you shave too. Is there truly honor among thieves? I'm not accusing you but it makes me wonder when I know without a doubt that a sponsor shaves and you try to tell me that they don't.

That's like me saying that fire is hot and you say it's not even warm.

rockbear · 10-19-2004, 01:51 PM

Bryan How hard is it to know if a program or sponsor shave or not? When you are 100% sure with proof that a program shave or can shave this is better to use another sponsor. Anyway there is a thousand of sponsors online now so the best solution is to use a sponsor that you never hear or see any proof about shaving. If you like to be fucked this is your choice.

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-19-2004, 01:51 PM

sixxxthsense · 10-19-2004, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
have proof?

fuck u and proof!

They got proof that they dont shave?

and that wining bitch, everyone shaves so fuck u and do ur own shit

Grammar Police · 10-19-2004, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apx_bryan
If you knew the legal system you'd know that this would be considered slander.

Only if what I said wasn't true. I haven't said anything that isn't true in this thread. Obviously you don't know the legal system.

pimplink · 10-19-2004, 01:54 PM

keep us posted on any legal action taking place

Bryan Havoc · 10-19-2004, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockbear
Bryan How hard is it to know if a program or sponsor shave or not? When you are 100% sure with proof that a program shave or can shave this is better to use another sponsor. Anyway there is a thousand of sponsors online now so the best solution is to use a sponsor that you never hear or see any proof about shaving. If you like to be fucked this is your choice.

I know what the percentages are, and I know when someone is shaving. When you have a traffic source and you've been promoting the same style of traffic for over 7 years, you tend to get a grasp on how many signups you should expect.

DaLord · 10-19-2004, 01:54 PM

I'm beginning to think you're right about Signup 4 Cash. My stats are beyond terrible but I'm doing well with other sponsors with the same traffic and same niche. Needless to say I don't have any proof but I know when I'm wasting my traffic.

AnalProbe · 10-19-2004, 01:54 PM

pimplink · 10-19-2004, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixxxthsense
fuck u and proof!

They got proof that they dont shave?

and that wining bitch, everyone shaves so fuck u and do ur own shit

are you crazy?

Minte · 10-19-2004, 01:56 PM

I've been inside the ADMIN at Medium Pimpin'

Honest as the day is long,

THEY DO NOT SHAVE.

End of discussion.

Bryan Havoc · 10-19-2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
Only if what I said wasn't true. I haven't said anything that isn't true in this thread. Obviously you don't know the legal system.

Holy shit! You're absolutely correct. Thanks for teaching me about the legal system! You appearing on PBS anytime soon?

SL|M! · 10-19-2004, 01:56 PM

Idiot. For one we count second page hits and two, im on X3 script that has no shave built in script. So this thread is bullshit.

BlingDaddy · 10-19-2004, 01:58 PM

I will accuse no-one of anything.... without proof. I can offer historical stats that may enlighten.

Medium Pimpin - 0:2493 since signup.
Signup4Cash - 0:810 since signup.
Join Right Now - 0:432 since signup.

I have other programs running 1:52

It's all good though..... I just don't promote programs that don't pay.

Bryan Havoc · 10-19-2004, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
That would be a terrible business decision unless you shave too. Is there truly honor among thieves? I'm not accusing you but it makes me wonder when I know without a doubt that a sponsor shaves and you try to tell me that they don't.

That's like me saying that fire is hot and you say it's not even warm.

Following your logic, since you're accusing an innocent company of shaving, and I know that they don't shave, then obviously that means that my company shaves? You're a bright guy.

Tam · 10-19-2004, 01:59 PM

Well I don't know Kevin at all, but I know mailman and I can say this without any sign of doubt, he'd never ever support a company that shaved, so I find it hard to believe about that one. I have known mailman for many years, and he's about one of the most honest people I know. I know a lot of very good people that swear by them, and that know Kevin, so I have to believe that they are honest, hard working webmasters..... you'd have to show me some pretty hefty proof before I bought that one.... just for the simple fact, I know mailman and he has more morals than to work for a cheater.

tranza · 10-19-2004, 02:00 PM

IMO: This guy should be banned if he didn't post some proof of what he's saying....

Sexzity · 10-19-2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
IMO: This guy should be banned if he didn't post some proof of what he's saying....

I agree on that.

Well spoken Tam

Grammar Police · 10-19-2004, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam
Well I don't know Kevin at all, but I know mailman and I can say this without any sign of doubt, he'd never ever support a company that shaved, so I find it hard to believe about that one. I have known mailman for many years, and he's about one of the most honest people I know. I know a lot of very good people that swear by them, and that know Kevin, so I have to believe that they are honest, hard working webmasters..... you'd have to show me some pretty hefty proof before I bought that one.... just for the simple fact, I know mailman and he has more morals than to work for a cheater.

Remind me who you used to work for again. It was PIB, correct?

rockbear · 10-19-2004, 02:03 PM

So if you are in the business since 7 years (like myself) and that is so easy to see that a sponsor shave, can you tell me at least 5 sponsors who shave here right now?

I will tell you if you are as good as you think. I used over 200 sponsors in the last 7 years so I think that I will be able to judge myelf if you are good or not.

My point is that this is so easy to set the % of shave with a program like that, that I prefer to use another sponsor.

So I will wait for your list Bryan

Grammar Police · 10-19-2004, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apx_bryan
Following your logic, since you're accusing an innocent company of shaving, and I know that they don't shave, then obviously that means that my company shaves? You're a bright guy.

You're either mistaken or you're lying. I'm not sure which.

[Brian] · 10-19-2004, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
IMO: This guy should be banned if he didn't post some proof of what he's saying....

"Grammar Police" is just an alter ego nick anyway I'm sure, what good would that do.

It's kind of ridiculous when people constantly say 'Where's the proof?!?' -- there is really nothing that can be posted on a msg board that would serve as undeniable proof of shaving, NOTHING.

rockbear · 10-19-2004, 02:09 PM

Grammar Police about VideosZ how they shave?

Never hear anything about shaving for them or never see any proof of that.

natkejs · 10-19-2004, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SL|M!
Idiot. For one we count second page hits and two, im on X3 script that has no shave built in script. So this thread is bullshit.

ohh ... I've heard about that script, Partner Soft 5 right? same that Nasty Dollars use ... right?

if I remember correctly it's written in C and PHP... pretty neat stuff, fast too!

and if I'm not mistaking, it's locked code ... like this other software NATS. so if it's "impossible" to shave with NATS since it's locked code, then wouldn't the same apply on PS5?

10-19-2004, 01:23 PM	#1
Grammar Police So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 727	Cheating Sponsors - List Signup 4 Cash - Nasty shave routine based on the productivity and traffic of affiliates. Medium Pimpin - Same as above. VideosZ - Straight shave. Click Cash - Straight shave on signups. Join Right Now - Undercounting clicks and straight shave on signups. Any others you guys know of that are definitely scammers? There is some good news. There are some sponsors that I know for a FACT don't shave. Adult Friend Finder Soul Cash Nasty Dollars

10-19-2004, 01:24 PM	#2
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10-19-2004, 01:30 PM	#8
Methodcash Rick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,720	We don't shave.. Here's need proof??? Oh, plus we use NATS.. 'nuff said.. Yes it's a shameless plug... MethodCash.Com Last edited by Methodcash Rick; 10-19-2004 at 01:31 PM..

10-19-2004, 01:36 PM	#12
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10-19-2004, 01:34 PM	#11
mailman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,311	Grammar Police we dont shave.. but you claim to have proof so please let me be the first to ask for you to POST your proof! i would love to see it!

10-19-2004, 01:39 PM	#13
Nader Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 5,086	Medium Pimpin Shave!!!!!! Are you sure about that. Wheres your proof man. THey are a hard working honest crew

10-19-2004, 01:39 PM	#14
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10-19-2004, 01:40 PM	#15
rockbear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 806	You can add every sponsor who use MPA2. Really easy to shave with this program so your list can be really big now

10-19-2004, 01:40 PM	#16
Bryan Havoc Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 784	Grammar Police, that's bullshit. We send a lot of traffic to Medium Pimpin, and I can tell you for a fact that they don't shave. Stand up guys over there. __________________ Bryan Havoc // ICQ - 165029472 [email protected] FreePaysiteCash.com

10-19-2004, 01:42 PM	#19
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	show some proof or this thread was a waste. proof PROVES your statements. __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

10-19-2004, 01:44 PM	#21
Grammar Police So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 727	If any of you know anything about the legal system, you'd understand why it isn't a good idea to show all of my cards. Technically this thread isn't a good idea but I want these guys to know who got them. How does this sound: 12 credit cards, all valid and from different areas. Ordered 12 memberships over 48 hours. 3 scrubbed, 9 went through. I was credited with 5. Somebody is in deep shit.

10-19-2004, 01:45 PM	#22
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Having been inside the admin interface for Medium Pimpin, I can guarentee you they don't shave. Simply knowing Kevin a little bit would tell you straight off that they run a tight, honest ship. Keep trolling, you may one day actually hit on a program that DOES shave. __________________ Free agent

10-19-2004, 01:45 PM	#24
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,883	I have no opinion regarding the original post or the programs mentioned, but I find it funny that so many think there is no way to tell if someone is shaving. There are plenty of ways. It takes a lot of time, but it can be done. I know without a doubt when I am being shaved and most of the time I can narrow down a percentage. Everyone always says "PROOF". Fuck the proof. Why would I want to show my methods of weeding out the lousy sponsors. Do sponsors give us all the methods for weeding out fradulent affiliates? No because with the information they will just find new ways to fuck you. The difference between myself and Grammar Police is I just stop promoting them or try to go with the eb and flow with the shave. I don't bother posting about it because the simple minded just don't understand. anyway __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

10-19-2004, 01:51 PM	#26
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Proofs please, but I must say I don't really promote three of them anymore because of the bad ratios compared to traffic sent according to my server logs. __________________

10-19-2004, 01:51 PM	#29
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10-19-2004, 01:54 PM	#32
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10-19-2004, 01:54 PM	#34
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	I'm beginning to think you're right about Signup 4 Cash. My stats are beyond terrible but I'm doing well with other sponsors with the same traffic and same niche. Needless to say I don't have any proof but I know when I'm wasting my traffic.

10-19-2004, 01:54 PM	#35
AnalProbe pain in the Ass Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,727

10-19-2004, 01:56 PM	#37
Minte Babemeister Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Madison Posts: 7,081	I've been inside the ADMIN at Medium Pimpin' Honest as the day is long, THEY DO NOT SHAVE. End of discussion. __________________ You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

10-19-2004, 01:56 PM	#39
SL\|M! Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The BP4L Bunker Posts: 1,480	Idiot. For one we count second page hits and two, im on X3 script that has no shave built in script. So this thread is bullshit.

10-19-2004, 01:58 PM	#40
BlingDaddy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Denver, CO ICQ 280-752-076 Posts: 6,343	I will accuse no-one of anything.... without proof. I can offer historical stats that may enlighten. Medium Pimpin - 0:2493 since signup. Signup4Cash - 0:810 since signup. Join Right Now - 0:432 since signup. I have other programs running 1:52 It's all good though..... I just don't promote programs that don't pay. __________________ Every Day... Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station! Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station! The Daily Bag of Douche - Humor at it's FINEST.

10-19-2004, 01:59 PM	#42
Tam Rude Bitch Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,521	Well I don't know Kevin at all, but I know mailman and I can say this without any sign of doubt, he'd never ever support a company that shaved, so I find it hard to believe about that one. I have known mailman for many years, and he's about one of the most honest people I know. I know a lot of very good people that swear by them, and that know Kevin, so I have to believe that they are honest, hard working webmasters..... you'd have to show me some pretty hefty proof before I bought that one.... just for the simple fact, I know mailman and he has more morals than to work for a cheater. __________________ Get in Touch on Telegram if you need a hardworker - (since 1999) - All About Me!

10-19-2004, 02:00 PM	#43
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	IMO: This guy should be banned if he didn't post some proof of what he's saying.... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-19-2004, 02:03 PM	#46
rockbear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 806	So if you are in the business since 7 years (like myself) and that is so easy to see that a sponsor shave, can you tell me at least 5 sponsors who shave here right now? I will tell you if you are as good as you think. I used over 200 sponsors in the last 7 years so I think that I will be able to judge myelf if you are good or not. My point is that this is so easy to set the % of shave with a program like that, that I prefer to use another sponsor. So I will wait for your list Bryan

10-19-2004, 02:09 PM	#49
rockbear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 806	Grammar Police about VideosZ how they shave? Never hear anything about shaving for them or never see any proof of that.