If you're a government leech, vote for John Kerry.

[Alex From San Diego]

Your taxes will rise. If you're a government leech, vote for John Kerry. Otherwise, a vote for John Kerry means more out of your paycheck. Don't buy the Clintonesque political demagoguery that Kerry will sock it to the millionaires while leaving the rest of us untouched. Look at Kerry's Senate record instead.

If you're a member of the middle class, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. If you own stocks or a car, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. If you die or get married, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. Even if you use the Internet, Kerry might want to raise your taxes; he said in 2001 that online taxation would be needed in the near future. Kerry voted against the Bush tax cuts. Kerry has promised a tax increase of $700 billion -- and that's a low-end estimate. If he actually fulfills his campaign spending promises, make that estimate closer to $1.7 trillion. Don't be surprised if a Kerry administration transforms economic boom into stagnancy or even recession.

[TurboTrucker]

With the way Dubya's run up the deficit, there's no choice but to raise taxes.

The real answer is to dramatically decrease government spending.

[media]

I would rather pay more taxes.... as long as it went to the right purpose...

I voted for a $100 per year per person tax increase in the state of oregon that would have gone to support schools, It was declined, and instead of paying $100 per year, I now have to pay $1000 extra per year for my wifes college tuition.... Thanks alot you fucking assholes!!!!

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Your taxes will rise. If you're a government leech, vote for John Kerry. Otherwise, a vote for John Kerry means more out of your paycheck. Don't buy the Clintonesque political demagoguery that Kerry will sock it to the millionaires while leaving the rest of us untouched. Look at Kerry's Senate record instead.

If you're a member of the middle class, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. If you own stocks or a car, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. If you die or get married, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. Even if you use the Internet, Kerry might want to raise your taxes; he said in 2001 that online taxation would be needed in the near future. Kerry voted against the Bush tax cuts. Kerry has promised a tax increase of $700 billion -- and that's a low-end estimate. If he actually fulfills his campaign spending promises, make that estimate closer to $1.7 trillion. Don't be surprised if a Kerry administration transforms economic boom into stagnancy or even recession.

What is your take on what so many here have said regarding Bush's (and Asscr_oft's) stance on cracking down on the adult industry? I'm just wondering if you'd mind keeping your business afloat and paying some higher taxes, or not?

[PerfectionGirls]

I would rather pay more taxes.... as long as it went to the right purpose...

Exactly.... Shit I would pay 10,000.00 or more a year in taxes just to be rid of Bush. How anyone in this industry could support that right wing wacko is beyond me. Also, his extreme views are FAR from the only reason to rid ourself of this clown. The list is far to long to go into here and now.


I have been a voting Republican for 22 years. Never again!


It turns my stomch to think where we will be in four more years with Bush as President. Bring on the taxes!

[malakajoe]

So how you recommend getting rid of the huge deficit Bush has gotten us into without raising taxes on the upper class (and possibily middle class)? Bush tax cuts are a political ploy to get votes....simple as that. Gains support by from the upper class (see quote at the end of this post) who give me money for his campaign.

Bush is running this country like has ran his failed businesses in the past...into the ground. This time, he doesn't have to worry about bankrupting the company or profit..he can mismanage funds anyways he wants.

What an impressive crowd: the haves, and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite, I call you my base.

[stocktrader23]

If Kerry raises taxes to raise money the US needs so be it. I'd rather do damn near anything than see Bush in office for another 4. He will have nothing to lose then and nobody to keep happy.

[PerfectionGirls]

Bush is running this country like has ran his failed businesses in the past...into the ground. This time, he doesn't have to worry about bankrupting the company or profit..he can mismanage funds anyways he wants.

Very true!

The only thing he ran with any success was the Rangers. Even then... he was the managment face of the team and was not in the finanical seat.

He is known for surrounding himself with "good people" ... folks, there is a reason for that. On his own he is a loose cannon and his years in the White House are proof of it.

He needs to retire to his Ranch in Texas where the only think his can fuck up are the birds and dear he shoots at.

[asuna]

cut goverment spending, like supplies and shit, they buy the expensive shit, buy no name brands, be cheap, and save a few million bucks

[media]

Originally posted by asuna
cut goverment spending, like supplies and shit, they buy the expensive shit, buy no name brands, be cheap, and save a few million bucks

LOL! Or when they buy $8000 curtains to cover a munument because it has breasts on it and they don't want to risk having boobs in a photo of themselves... Fucking Dick (heney

$8000 for curtains, whoever heard of such a thing...

Waste of tax payers money!!!

[TheJimmy]

I respect your opion and feelings on taxation...



but if you can put aside your primary concern of how to keep more of your money...
(there are many legal ways, I'm certain, that you are aware of to shelter them)



and please, look at some of the other vital issues at hand...



our prosperity depends on a strong global alliance, both on and off the battle field...



giving up some money to protect our rights, freedoms etc, is well worth it imo...

[malakajoe]

Originally posted by TheJimmy
I respect your opion and feelings on taxation...


but if you can put aside your primary concern of how to keep your money, before anything else...


and please, look at some of the other issues at hand...


our prosperity depends on a strong global alliance, both on and off the battle field...

Greatly said!! Too many people put themselves above the good of the country.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by media
LOL! Or when they buy $8000 curtains to cover a munument because it has breasts on it and they don't want to risk having boobs in a photo of themselves... Fucking Dick (heney

$8000 for curtains, whoever heard of such a thing...

Waste of tax payers money!!!

Didn't you watch "Independance day"?? They overpay on all those items so that they can secretly pump millions into secret underground facilities like the one they don't think I know about located at......



[[[ sound of helicopters outside ]]]



... okay I'll shut up now.

[media]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Didn't you watch "Independance day"?? They overpay on all those items so that they can secretly pump millions into secret underground facilities like the one they don't think I know about located at......



[[[ sound of helicopters outside ]]]



... okay I'll shut up now.

I bet that shit went right into his bank account.. Like Halliburton funds that his buddies overcharged tax payers for..

[malakajoe]

BTW...who else see's the hyprocrisy in the title of this post?

"If you vote for Kerry you are a governmant leech"...but the post is about Kerry wanting to raises taxes and this guy not wanting to pay for the debt and spending Bush is doing? Isn't that a leech? How is paying more taxes being a leech? LOL!!

God..the stupidity of people amazes me something...it shouldn't, but does.

[scoreman]

Alex are you half of Jasonandalex.com ?

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by scoreman
Alex are you half of Jasonandalex.com ?

Yes I am.

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by malakajoe
BTW...who else see's the hyprocrisy in the title of this post?

"If you vote for Kerry you are a governmant leech"...but the post is about Kerry wanting to raises taxes and this guy not wanting to pay for the debt and spending Bush is doing? Isn't that a leech? How is paying more taxes being a leech? LOL!!

God..the stupidity of people amazes me something...it shouldn't, but does.

If you don't understand the impact of raising taxes and the economy, I'm sorry but I can't help you.

To use your own words,

"God..the stupidity of people amazes me sometimes...it shouldn't, but does."

[MBS Auto]

We have to let W finish what he started.

Anyway Kerry is not going o do anything for us...

[media]

Originally posted by MBS Auto
We have to let W finish what he started.

Anyway Kerry is not going o do anything for us...

We don't HAVE to sit around and let him finish anything...

People need to get off their asses and vote more, vote for what you think is right.. Don't just vote the way a party historicly votes... vote for what YOU think is right...

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally posted by MBS Auto
We have to let W finish what he started.

Anyway Kerry is not going o do anything for us...

Bush and his cabinate are war criminals and should be put to trial.

[Bansheelinks]

then vote for Bush, asshole, but don't come complaining on these boards when he stacks the Supreme Court with conservative, anti-porn judges.........

prepared for COPA 2? prepared for more harrassment that'll make 2257 seem like a tea party?

you are a stupid asshole who belongs in another business.......maybe the oil business with your tongue up Dubya's ass.

[xclusive]

I'd rather money be taken out of my pocket to pay for programs in america not Iraq Vote Kerry/Edwards for americas future...

[tony286]

Taxes were higher under clinton and the country had some of its greatest prosperity. The wall street journal not a liberal newspaper looked at the bush tax plan and the kerry tax plan, you didnt get affected from kerry until you hit 275k a year and then it was a whopping $2500.

People yell I love this country ,I'm proud to be a American .Then in the next breath wait you expect to pay my fair share of taxes ? and then they bitch lol.

[scoreman]

Ok, I just wanted to be clear on who it is that I was talking to. We've met before in Las Vegas so you are now at least not an unknown entity to me like so many other posters on this board.

I posted this reason in a thread earlier this week but I will post it again here.

In the next four years the acting President will be appointing up to three Supreme Court Justice positions. It has been 10 years since the last appointment, an unprecedented time period. Most likely to retire are Stevens, Rehnquist and O'Conner. Bush has made it clear with his Court of Appeals appointees that he plans to nominate conservative candidates.

Look at the history of the COPA and you will see why this is so critical for us. COPA narrowly escaped passage with a 5-4 vote in July. Stevens was on our side of that case. The Department of Justice has indicated that they will bring another version of COPA and it is likely that this issue will be revisited in the next 4 years.

On top of that specific case, in the next four years the Justices will also be looking at alot of issues that revolve around freedom of speech, the limits of police and state powers and church-state relations, all of which have an impact on our industry.

Alex, higher taxation is indeed a concern of mine should Kerry get elected. In the end though this would be at most just a percentage increase on my taxes. I submit to you that there is a much more worse financial situation that could result from Bush being elected.

[media]

Originally posted by scoreman
Ok, I just wanted to be clear on who it is that I was talking to. We've met before in Las Vegas so you are now at least not an unknown entity to me like so many other posters on this board.

I posted this reason in a thread earlier this week but I will post it again here.

In the next four years the acting President will be appointing up to three Supreme Court Justice positions. It has been 10 years since the last appointment, an unprecedented time period. Most likely to retire are Stevens, Rehnquist and O'Conner. Bush has made it clear with his Court of Appeals appointees that he plans to nominate conservative candidates.

Look at the history of the COPA and you will see why this is so critical for us. COPA narrowly escaped passage with a 5-4 vote in July. Stevens was on our side of that case. The Department of Justice has indicated that they will bring another version of COPA and it is likely that this issue will be revisited in the next 4 years.

On top of that specific case, in the next four years the Justices will also be looking at alot of issues that revolve around freedom of speech, the limits of police and state powers and church-state relations, all of which have an impact on our industry.

Alex, higher taxation is indeed a concern of mine should Kerry get elected. In the end though this would be at most just a percentage increase on my taxes. I submit to you that there is a much more worse financial situation that could result from Bush being elected.

Well said..

[Bansheelinks]

Originally posted by scoreman


Alex, higher taxation is indeed a concern of mine should Kerry get elected. In the end though this would be at most just a percentage increase on my taxes. I submit to you that there is a much more worse financial situation that could result from Bush being elected.

Yes and that situation is called a SHUTDOWN.......or at the very least legal harrassments that force many of our friends on here out of this business........this isn't chicken little, that is the hardcore reality of it all

wake the fuck up

[tony286]

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
Yes and that situation is called a SHUTDOWN.......or at the very least legal harrassments that force many of our friends on here out of this business........this isn't chicken little, that is the hardcore reality of it all

wake the fuck up

Going out of business would be the least of our worries , how about jail ? They are not just going to close business. Lives will be ruined.

[scoreman]

Alex focused this issue on money. I have plenty of other reasons why I don't want Bush to win but I wanted to keep it tightly focused on just the money issue since it was the thrust of his argument. If you really want to protect your money, there are solid reasons why adult industry folks who are taking even the most conservative routes should be concerned about a Bush victory in November.

[Tom_PMs]

alex from san diego,

Way to eat up the republican campaign hype and spit it back out un-digested.

Kudos.

[malakajoe]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
If you don't understand the impact of raising taxes and the economy, I'm sorry but I can't help you.

To use your own words,

"God..the stupidity of people amazes me sometimes...it shouldn't, but does."

Oh..you are using that the taxes will go to fund government assistence, welfare, etc...that game, I guess.

But if I make good money and vote for Kerry..how am I a leech? If you vote for Bush and your taxes don't go up...but he keeps spending money like he is...how are you NOT a leech?

[Alex From San Diego]

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
Yes and that situation is called a SHUTDOWN.......or at the very least legal harrassments that force many of our friends on here out of this business........this isn't chicken little, that is the hardcore reality of it all

wake the fuck up

So you believe that Bush will abolish all internet porn, print media and distribution?

Are you kidding me?

You actually believe the shutdown of pornography is in the top 10 of his priorities as President?

First off, he might be able to appoint a judge but the senate has to confirm. There is more to it than to say Bush will shut us down.

What is Kerry's stance on pornography? No One knows because he has never said what his stance is.

Pornography has been here for a 1000 years in various forms and it is pretty safe to assume it will continue to be here when you and I are gone.

[MBS Auto]

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
then vote for Bush, asshole, but don't come complaining on these boards when he stacks the Supreme Court with conservative, anti-porn judges.........

prepared for COPA 2? prepared for more harrassment that'll make 2257 seem like a tea party?

you are a stupid asshole who belongs in another business.......maybe the oil business with your tongue up Dubya's ass.

I don't like Bush... but he is better than Kerry, all Kerry says is that "we are going to fix everything" BUT how.....

If I had my way I would Nominate TRUMP

[malakajoe]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
So you believe that Bush will abolish all internet porn, print media and distribution?

Are you kidding me?

You actually believe the shutdown of pornography is in the top 10 of his priorities as President?

First off, he might be able to appoint a judge but the senate has to confirm. There is more to it than to say Bush will shut us down.

What is Kerry's stance on pornography? No One knows because he has never said what his stance is.

Pornography has been here for a 1000 years in various forms and it is pretty safe to assume it will continue to be here when you and I are gone.

I don't feel Bush will shut down porn. But I do not like the people he put in charge in many places and these people have made it known they are not completely for freedome of speech, in my opinion. To me, freedom of speech is one of thee most important rights we have.

[scoreman]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
So you believe that Bush will abolish all internet porn, print media and distribution?

Are you kidding me?

You actually believe the shutdown of pornography is in the top 10 of his priorities as President?

First off, he might be able to appoint a judge but the senate has to confirm. There is more to it than to say Bush will shut us down.

What is Kerry's stance on pornography? No One knows because he has never said what his stance is.

Pornography has been here for a 1000 years in various forms and it is pretty safe to assume it will continue to be here when you and I are gone.

Alex I am completely aware that Kerry's policies towards adult are unknown. He could in fact desire to rid the world of porn. But here are the facts:

We know that Bush plans on offering up very conservative candidates for not only the Supreme Court but also for Court of Appeals, Attorney General, FCC and any other positions that he can. We know this because he has done this without exception every time he was offered an opportunity. It is true that appointments require Senate approval, but lets look at the likely outcomes there:

a) The Senate stays Republican controlled (as it is widely anticipated it will). Bush's nominations go through.

b) The Senate becomes Democratic controlled. In this event if the Dems attempt to block confirmation, Bush has two tactics---he can start trading favors like has been a long time tradition in Washington or he can do a full court press with the media. A vacancy at the highest Court will get front page coverage as will the fact that confirmation is frozen due to Democrats. The heat on those democrats will be enormous and they could very well fold on that alone.

My real question to you is would you want to be in a position where you are relying on Democrats to block the confirmation of a Justice that will allow legislation that could dramatically affect your livelihood? Would it not be better at this point to seek to prevent the nomination from happening in the first place?

[tony286]

Originally posted by scoreman
Alex I am completely aware that Kerry's policies towards adult are unknown. He could in fact desire to rid the world of porn. But here are the facts:

We know that Bush plans on offering up very conservative candidates for not only the Supreme Court but also for Court of Appeals, Attorney General, FCC and any other positions that he can. We know this because he has done this without exception every time he was offered an opportunity. It is true that appointments require Senate approval, but lets look at the likely outcomes there:

a) The Senate stays Republican controlled (as it is widely anticipated it will). Bush's nominations go through.

b) The Senate becomes Democratic controlled. In this event if the Dems attempt to block confirmation, Bush has two tactics---he can start trading favors like has been a long time tradition in Washington or he can do a full court press with the media. A vacancy at the highest Court will get front page coverage as will the fact that confirmation is frozen due to Democrats. The heat on those democrats will be enormous and they could very well fold on that alone.

My real question to you is would you want to be in a position where you are relying on Democrats to block the confirmation of a Justice that will allow legislation that could dramatically affect your livelihood? Would it not be better at this point to seek to prevent the nomination from happening in the first place?

Bravo will said

[Probono]

Bush does not have the experience or knowledge to be president. He is in office due to a failure in our system. He has caused great damage to this country in his 4 years in office. If relected he will do more damage. Neither candidate has a chance of fixing the economy or our world position in 4 years but Kerry has 20 years of experience and a better grasp on reality.

[Morgan]

you will pay one way or another in the long run no matter whom you vote for.

[uno]

Originally posted by MBS Auto
I don't like Bush... but he is better than Kerry, all Kerry says is that "we are going to fix everything" BUT how.....

If I had my way I would Nominate TRUMP

He does have plans if you would care to actually look into them.

The excuse to vote for Bush is that Kerry wants to fix Bush's mistakes, but doesn't have a clear plan in your eyes so we should keep Bush in office to keep making mistakes. Great logic.

[BRISK]

If you don't like rights and freedoms, vote Republican

[Manowar]

vote Kerry

[Webmaster_Logic]

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Your taxes will rise. If you're a government leech, vote for John Kerry. Otherwise, a vote for John Kerry means more out of your paycheck. Don't buy the Clintonesque political demagoguery that Kerry will sock it to the millionaires while leaving the rest of us untouched. Look at Kerry's Senate record instead.

If you're a member of the middle class, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. If you own stocks or a car, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. If you die or get married, Kerry wants to raise your taxes. Even if you use the Internet, Kerry might want to raise your taxes; he said in 2001 that online taxation would be needed in the near future. Kerry voted against the Bush tax cuts. Kerry has promised a tax increase of $700 billion -- and that's a low-end estimate. If he actually fulfills his campaign spending promises, make that estimate closer to $1.7 trillion. Don't be surprised if a Kerry administration transforms economic boom into stagnancy or even recession.

You are way offline here. A president CAN NOT raise taxes . It has to go thru the house and be passed and then the president has a choice to sign or veto.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Webmaster_Logic
You are way offline here. A president CAN NOT raise taxes . It has to go thru the house and be passed and then the president has a choice to sign or veto.

A president can't stop porn, appoint someone to the supreme court, lower taxes, declare war or award military contracts either.

[Project-Shadow]

If I could vote in the U.S I would vote for Kerry.

A vote for Bush is a vote for communism! [Not really, but it's a step closer to getting China like laws in the U.S]

[PenisFace]

Originally posted by Probono
Bush does not have the experience or knowledge to be president. He is in office due to a failure in our system. He has caused great damage to this country in his 4 years in office. If relected he will do more damage. Neither candidate has a chance of fixing the economy or our world position in 4 years but Kerry has 20 years of experience and a better grasp on reality.

You're my new favourite person on GFY

[Manowar]

Originally posted by Project-Shadow
If I could vote in the U.S I would vote for Kerry.

A vote for Bush is a vote for communism! [Not really, but it's a step closer to getting China like laws in the U.S]

[FlyingIguana]

the bush tax cuts were crazy. it was budgeted based on best case scenerio's when it was obvious to anyone with a brain that the good times weren't gonna last.

then on top of that bush wants to waste money on wars

[CamChicks]

Fiscal Conservatives need to wake up and realize that the (R) beside Bush's name means nothing. The real Republican party has been hijacked. Forget the old labels and pay attention to what's actually happening. You can no longer afford to faithfully accept the dogma that 'republicans spend less, and democrats spend more'.

'Conservative' Bush Spends More than 'Liberal' Presidents Clinton, Carter

Conservatives stew as Bush spending grows

$3 Trillion Price Tag Left Out As Bush Details His Agenda

On Spending, Bush Is No Reagan

Bush's spending binges

US spending surges to historic level

War does not justify Bush budget

Greenspan warns Bush over spending

Spending inevitably results in taxation. Sooner or later we're going to have to pay for this.