Do you still promote sites that offer 50% recurring? - GoFuckYourself.com

Jace · 10-14-2004, 12:14 AM

or is 60% the standard now?

I am working with someone on getting his site more traffic and the next step is to get some affiliates, but he only offer 50% recurring....if the site has a nice tour and retains, would you all still promote it?

4Pics · 10-14-2004, 12:16 AM

He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.

cali_22 · 10-14-2004, 12:17 AM

i say how can you ask for anything more than half the profit so im happy with 50% , but then again 60% is always better

Sly · 10-14-2004, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.

Huh? Most of the better sites are recurring. The PPS sites can pay per join not because of better quality members sections, but due to squeezing more water from the rock.

Steen2 · 10-14-2004, 12:18 AM

50% is fine if it's a good site and works well for you.

Jace · 10-14-2004, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Sly
Huh? Most of the better sites are recurring. The PPS sites can pay per join not because of better quality members sections, but due to squeezing more water from the rock.

yeah, i agree with you on that...i barely promote pps anymore except for TCG....i still get nice checks from companies I haven't actively promoted in over a year...you just gotta know how to pick em and you can do VERY well with recurring

ztik · 10-14-2004, 12:22 AM

are you 12 years old? it doesn't matter what a site pays. it matters how much money it makes ya.

Drake · 10-14-2004, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Sly
Huh? Most of the better sites are recurring. The PPS sites can pay per join not because of better quality members sections, but due to squeezing more water from the rock.

Generally speaking this appears to be the case

Drake · 10-14-2004, 12:25 AM

On another note, PPS is a pretty enticing option considering lower recurring rates all around compared to years ago, as well as the shakiness of the future of things like processing. Thus, I use both, and I choose wisely.

Jace · 10-14-2004, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by ztik
are you 12 years old? it doesn't matter what a site pays. it matters how much money it makes ya.

i agree with that, but how do you know how much it will make you when you haven't sold it yet?

first step is too entice the affiliates

NickB. · 10-14-2004, 12:57 AM

50-60% is ok, just show your webmasters everything, membership to the site should convince them

Jace · 10-14-2004, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by nickbaauw
50-60% is ok, just show your webmasters everything, membership to the site should convince them

oh for sure...i am redoing the affiliate page now, and it will include a temp password to the site...

this site has been totally untouched by affiliates, so it will be a good one to jump in on...not much widespread promotion yet

lots and lots of exclusive content that hasn't been seen much at all

Vitasoy · 10-14-2004, 01:30 AM

I'm okay with 50% as long asm I can the members area...

andrej_NDC · 10-14-2004, 02:23 AM

I pay 50%, but its NET. I could pay 65% and let the affiliates pay the fees, would be the same. Many programs offer 60-70%, but they let you pay the fees, or split them. Consider everything.

Tipsy · 10-14-2004, 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
oh for sure...i am redoing the affiliate page now, and it will include a temp password to the site...

Amazing how many programs don't make it easy to see the members section. Ok - in most cases it only takes a few bucks to find out but what a pain in the ass to have to do.

rowan · 10-14-2004, 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by andrej_NDC
I pay 50%, but its NET. I could pay 65% and let the affiliates pay the fees, would be the same. Many programs offer 60-70%, but they let you pay the fees, or split them. Consider everything.

Don't you mean you pay 50% GROSS? ie no processing fees come out of the affiliate's payment. 50% net would be about 43% gross.

Tipsy · 10-14-2004, 03:48 AM

Oh and to answer the original question - sure but only if the site was very, very good. It'd need to retain very well at 50% to make it worthwhile.

andrej_NDC · 10-14-2004, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by rowan
Don't you mean you pay 50% GROSS? ie no processing fees come out of the affiliate's payment. 50% net would be about 43% gross.

hehe, yes, you are right

I mean 50% of the paysite price is your NET profit, not gross. No more deductions.

digifan · 10-14-2004, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.

What he said.

Gynecologist · 10-14-2004, 04:06 AM

I love recurring. Some people never seem to cancel.

marttali · 10-14-2004, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by cali_22
i say how can you ask for anything more than half the profit so im happy with 50% , but then again 60% is always better

you obviosly havent seen too many member areas, i say many pps site's member areas are bullshit

Project-Shadow · 10-14-2004, 05:56 AM

Alot of PPS are cookie cutters. But having said that, there are always quality sites out there, that don't rely on plug-ins for retenetion.

And yes, I do promote 50%... but I prefer 60% like most sane people.

Paparazzi · 10-14-2004, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
or is 60% the standard now?

I am working with someone on getting his site more traffic and the next step is to get some affiliates, but he only offer 50% recurring....if the site has a nice tour and retains, would you all still promote it?

50% is still standard. If the site converts and retains why not...

Basic_man · 10-14-2004, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by 4Pics
He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.

I agree on this !

Fred Quimby · 10-14-2004, 08:29 AM

sure,,,if they got good crap and update often

johnbosh · 10-14-2004, 08:30 AM

10-14-2004, 12:14 AM	#1
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	Do you still promote sites that offer 50% recurring? or is 60% the standard now? I am working with someone on getting his site more traffic and the next step is to get some affiliates, but he only offer 50% recurring....if the site has a nice tour and retains, would you all still promote it?

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Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	I'm okay with 50% as long asm I can the members area... __________________ [email protected]

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Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Oh and to answer the original question - sure but only if the site was very, very good. It'd need to retain very well at 50% to make it worthwhile. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

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Fred Quimby Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 5,430	sure,,,if they got good crap and update often __________________

10-14-2004, 12:16 AM	#2
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	He should offer PPS, since programs who only offer % typically do that since they don't retain members that long. Sure there are a few exceptions but the rule is if they don't offer PPS they suck ass.

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cali_22 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Whistler BC Posts: 2,330	i say how can you ask for anything more than half the profit so im happy with 50% , but then again 60% is always better

10-14-2004, 12:22 AM	#7
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	are you 12 years old? it doesn't matter what a site pays. it matters how much money it makes ya.

10-14-2004, 12:25 AM	#9
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	On another note, PPS is a pretty enticing option considering lower recurring rates all around compared to years ago, as well as the shakiness of the future of things like processing. Thus, I use both, and I choose wisely.

10-14-2004, 12:57 AM	#11
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	50-60% is ok, just show your webmasters everything, membership to the site should convince them

10-14-2004, 02:23 AM	#14
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	I pay 50%, but its NET. I could pay 65% and let the affiliates pay the fees, would be the same. Many programs offer 60-70%, but they let you pay the fees, or split them. Consider everything.

10-14-2004, 04:06 AM	#20
Gynecologist Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,184	I love recurring. Some people never seem to cancel.

10-14-2004, 05:56 AM	#22
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	Alot of PPS are cookie cutters. But having said that, there are always quality sites out there, that don't rely on plug-ins for retenetion. And yes, I do promote 50%... but I prefer 60% like most sane people.

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johnbosh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 8,965	50