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Old 10-11-2004, 09:28 AM   #1
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Rappers and OnStage Entourages? WTF?

i never really got this whole thing of the entourage of 50 nobodys on the stage with the big time rapper.

i mean, are these all the guys that the dude grew up with before he was big jsut taking up space on the stage?

i was just looking at some footage of concert. i couldn't even fucking see nelly because the stage was full of dudes tying to get some airtime.

if i wasn't the main star, i would feel like a loser up there. how do they justify themselves to go out on stage and share the spotlight? blows my mind. entourages are a security nightmare and a logisitcs headache. what is the value to the artist?
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If they didn't pay those guys to do nothing, they'd have their asses beat and they'd end up with nothing.
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The whole rap/hip hop thing is getting pretty retarded. This bling/ice and the clothing and the rims and bitches and shit is getting so boring. You have to realize though that most of they hip hop dudes arent exactly the smartest people around. That in combination with fame and money does weird things to a person.
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I think that they are there to cover up the fact that a lot of these guys outside the studio where they can mix shit aren't really that good...
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So very true! LOL! LOL!

I think it's just a pact they make to their homeboys that if any of them come up...Then they ALL come up...They all get put on the payroll..

These people just like to live in the limelight of someone elses dream. What they need to do is get up off their muthafuckin asses and start pursuing dreams of their own.

It will be a rude fucken awakening when there rich and famous friends gets fed up of supportin' their dumb lazy asses or GETS SHOT....again.

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i never really got this whole thing of the entourage of 50 nobodys on the stage with the big time rapper.

i mean, are these all the guys that the dude grew up with before he was big jsut taking up space on the stage?

i was just looking at some footage of concert. i couldn't even fucking see nelly because the stage was full of dudes tying to get some airtime.

if i wasn't the main star, i would feel like a loser up there. how do they justify themselves to go out on stage and share the spotlight? blows my mind. entourages are a security nightmare and a logisitcs headache. what is the value to the artist?
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aaah, the'yre a diversion from the fact that most of the talent sucks outside the studio?

i can feel that. its just fucking silly to me.

*stage standing guy talking to mom before a rap show*

"mamma i tol you, i cant take you to da market, cuz i gots to stand on stage wit nelly today"

*mamma*

"you go on wit yo bad self baby! you is comming up in the world!"

*guy*

"yeah momma, its lookin up fo me lately. next month they might let me clean off the microphones"

with that many people on a stage like that, it is so easy to kick a cable out of a direct box, or damage something electronic. not to mention, it completely turns any kind of video footage of the actual artist into garbage. what a mess. LOL.
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He he he...so funny, so true.
Yea most of the music now a days is crap! It's more about fulfilling an image...

yu know what though, theres a market out their for a lot of that garbage...just tell everybody you got shot nine times, and they'll buy your record! haha

I don't even have cable and i'm so shamefully shocked half the time IF i turn on the radio...Waste of time...Waste of $$$


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aaah, the'yre a diversion from the fact that most of the talent sucks outside the studio?

i can feel that. its just fucking silly to me.

*stage standing guy talking to mom before a rap show*

"mamma i tol you, i cant take you to da market, cuz i gots to stand on stage wit nelly today"

*mamma*

"you go on wit yo bad self baby! you is comming up in the world!"

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"yeah momma, its lookin up fo me lately. next month they might let me clean off the microphones"

with that many people on a stage like that, it is so easy to kick a cable out of a direct box, or damage something electronic. not to mention, it completely turns any kind of video footage of the actual artist into garbage. what a mess. LOL.
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im not dissing on the talent, well, maybe a little, they're the ones who let them all up there, im dissin on the people trying to be on stage and look important.

some of the faces that the entourage guys put on are funny too, judging from the nelly concert im looking at. they actually think they are stars too.

hehe. just my 2 cents and a funny thing to point out i guess.
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im not dissing on the talent, well, maybe a little, they're the ones who let them all up there, im dissin on the people trying to be on stage and look important.

some of the faces that the entourage guys put on are funny too, judging from the nelly concert im looking at. they actually think they are stars too.

hehe. just my 2 cents and a funny thing to point out i guess.



Well thanks for pointing it out...Made me laugh this morning
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Old 10-11-2004, 10:24 AM   #12
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The whole rap/hip hop thing is getting pretty retarded. This bling/ice and the clothing and the rims and bitches and shit is getting so boring. You have to realize though that most of they hip hop dudes arent exactly the smartest people around. That in combination with fame and money does weird things to a person.
Yea your soooo right! he he that's funny...
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We went to see Bone Thugs & Harmony at a tiny bar that held 250 or so people. Boy was I suprised by the show cause these guys were there....







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We went to see Bone Thugs & Harmony at a tiny bar that held 250 or so people. Boy was I suprised by the show cause these guys were there....
yeah, those has been gorups are famousfor still using the name and then one of the second string backseat rappers shows up with all new people and shitty songs.
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The rap today is total shit.

I have never heard so much music ( if that is what you want to call it, ) that the people talk about how much money they have. Or how sweet their ride is. Etc.
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They should put the people in the entourage in tuxedos and distrubute them on the stage as if they were a big band, except they won't do anything but "put they hands in the air" and wave towels around.
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yeah, those has been gorups are famousfor still using the name and then one of the second string backseat rappers shows up with all new people and shitty songs.
Bone was still there. Was an awesome show actually. Every individual / group performed, then Bone, then Bone and some of the others did some stuff together. Damn near all of em sounded good too.
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The whole rap/hip hop thing is getting pretty retarded. This bling/ice and the clothing and the rims and bitches and shit is getting so boring. You have to realize though that most of they hip hop dudes arent exactly the smartest people around. That in combination with fame and money does weird things to a person.
yeah, you are probably right
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They should put the people in the entourage in tuxedos and distrubute them on the stage as if they were a big band, except they won't do anything but "put they hands in the air" and wave towels around.
LOLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!

Thats a good 1
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Bone was still there. Was an awesome show actually. Every individual / group performed, then Bone, then Bone and some of the others did some stuff together. Damn near all of em sounded good too.
Sounds like they musta got their shit together...
Back in the day when they first came out I wasn't really a big fan, but a friend of mine went to one of their concerts. He told me that they were all toe the fuck up. They couldn even stand. They were just all layin on the stage, rappin' with their mic's in their hands kickin their feet up in the air! Plenty of people just bounced cause they were so shit.
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Bone was still there. Was an awesome show actually. Every individual / group performed, then Bone, then Bone and some of the others did some stuff together. Damn near all of em sounded good too.
gotcha. im trying to think of a group that broke up and then one of the nobodies in the group went on to do a solo act and tried to ride the name out. it was horrible to say the least. damn i've killed some brain cells over the years, so help me if anyone knows.

it was a failry decent sized rap posse.
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gotcha. im trying to think of a group that broke up and then one of the nobodies in the group went on to do a solo act and tried to ride the name out. it was horrible to say the least. damn i've killed some brain cells over the years, so help me if anyone knows.

it was a failry decent sized rap posse.
I can name one that tried riding his shitty fame and that's Ton Loc. Saw him a few years ago and he brought his cousins on stage with a boombox. Turned on the boombox with a prerecorded tape of his shit and proceeded to rap.
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I can name one that tried riding his shitty fame and that's Ton Loc. Saw him a few years ago and he brought his cousins on stage with a boombox. Turned on the boombox with a prerecorded tape of his shit and proceeded to rap.
LOL

yeah, and just recently, joe budden came to san diego. the promoters only got about 20 people to the show in a building that holds 3500. the entourage on stage was more people than the audience. it looked so bad. no one in san diego knows or cares who joe budden is. the entourage was on stage acting like it was the biggest thing they ever did. maybe it was. then joe budden came out and got on the mic and said "fuck san diego" and they left. LOL
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yeah, and just recently, joe budden came to san diego. the promoters only got about 20 people to the show in a building that holds 3500. the entourage on stage was more people than the audience. it looked so bad. no one in san diego knows or cares who joe budden is. the entourage was on stage acting like it was the biggest thing they ever did. maybe it was. then joe budden came out and got on the mic and said "fuck san diego" and they left. LOL
Ton Loc was bitching about his promoters as well. Took like an extra hour to come out and said he "liked the intimate crowd anyhow". Tools.
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I got BG's new album "Life after Cash Money" and as one of the most lyrical rappers I have ever heard I sat down to see what new stories he was going to tell me. Listening carefully it came to me just why some of the guys here do not like rappers. I see a lot of guys talking about how retarded rapping about drugs, bitches, fucking, money, cars and disrespecting women when it dawned on me.

They are talking about the same shit most of the people here do, INCLUDING the people who are complaining. If you look around here you see pics of big rims on cars, expensive cars, hot chics, talks about how many women you fucked, disrespect of talent/models/party girls and of course drugs. The differance is you KNOW the rappers are doing it and making way more money and sleeping with hot chics and not having to pay for it or call it an "interview"

How hypocritical is it to be in the porn industry and exploit women for money and then turn around and condemn a rapper for REALLY doing what our industry portraits. Do you smell that *sniff sniff* smells like HATER, Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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I got BG's new album "Life after Cash Money" and as one of the most lyrical rappers I have ever heard I sat down to see what new stories he was going to tell me. Listening carefully it came to me just why some of the guys here do not like rappers. I see a lot of guys talking about how retarded rapping about drugs, bitches, fucking, money, cars and disrespecting women when it dawned on me.

They are talking about the same shit most of the people here do, INCLUDING the people who are complaining. If you look around here you see pics of big rims on cars, expensive cars, hot chics, talks about how many women you fucked, disrespect of talent/models/party girls and of course drugs. The differance is you KNOW the rappers are doing it and making way more money and sleeping with hot chics and not having to pay for it or call it an "interview"

How hypocritical is it to be in the porn industry and exploit women for money and then turn around and condemn a rapper for REALLY doing what our industry portraits. Do you smell that *sniff sniff* smells like HATER, Don't hate the player, hate the game.


Perfectly said, wasnt sure how to go about saying that but you put it perfectly!!!!
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I got BG's new album "Life after Cash Money" and as one of the most lyrical rappers I have ever heard I sat down to see what new stories he was going to tell me. Listening carefully it came to me just why some of the guys here do not like rappers. I see a lot of guys talking about how retarded rapping about drugs, bitches, fucking, money, cars and disrespecting women when it dawned on me.

They are talking about the same shit most of the people here do, INCLUDING the people who are complaining. If you look around here you see pics of big rims on cars, expensive cars, hot chics, talks about how many women you fucked, disrespect of talent/models/party girls and of course drugs. The differance is you KNOW the rappers are doing it and making way more money and sleeping with hot chics and not having to pay for it or call it an "interview"

How hypocritical is it to be in the porn industry and exploit women for money and then turn around and condemn a rapper for REALLY doing what our industry portraits. Do you smell that *sniff sniff* smells like HATER, Don't hate the player, hate the game.



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They should all take a lesson from MC hammer. he tried to bring all his friends with him, and went from 40 million in the bank to preaching on late night christian networks.

Then again there is more money in jesus than in all other industries combined. the words prophet and profit go hand in hand. So MC hammer may be on the right path now.
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Interesting too that Mase and Kanye West are doing really well right now, and they're both talking about Jesus and God and not being a gangster.
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Interesting too that Mase and Kanye West are doing really well right now, and they're both talking about Jesus and God and not being a gangster.
yep. the power of positive music. there are others. black eyed peas and the roots to name a few, that have made it in hip hop and rap, that don't need to rap about the bling. loosely stated as well, the fugees and wyclef. wyclef has gotten a little into the bling thing as of late, but hasn't sold out in my book.
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The whole rap/hip hop thing is getting pretty retarded. This bling/ice and the clothing and the rims and bitches and shit is getting so boring. You have to realize though that most of they hip hop dudes arent exactly the smartest people around. That in combination with fame and money does weird things to a person.
Amen.

You can only rhyme so much about your rims, your whip, your crib, your bitches, your cash money, your bling and how hard you are. It's old now and I do respect the few that are rapping about other shit.

I can almost see the director explaining to these thugs about this great ground breaking idea for a video... "picture this" he says.... "your at a club, everything is slow motion, models dancing all around, your popping bottles and all your homeboys are there, ice all over your wrists and necks, cars pulling up out from in slow motion with rims spinning... saturated colors and lots of bright lights... it will be the hottest video ever, totally original!"

And for the re-mix... R-Kelly can do a few lines and sign about the after party.

It's a hit.
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Thanks I do what I can ;) I have not been here long but alot of the "big boys" and I talk a lot and have pointed out to me who is real and who is fake. Being in business in the real world prior to this I learned how to read people well so I picked up on the hypocracy REAL quick here and have been posting things like this for a while and making people think about it.

I was real happy to see MA$E come back, I knew he had left over issues with the lifestyle and his return outside of Bad Boy probably has a lot to do with hold overs from his new cleaner life. Jesus walks is a great song but I do not think Kanye is pushing as hard as Mase, he seems to be more talking about how he knows things are wrong but does them anyway. Guess you gotta walk before you run.

Hammer spent a lot his boys but nowhere as hard as his management who he trusted way to much. But the church takes care of him now and he seemed pretty happy with his life when he was on that show Surreal life.
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:53 PM   #40
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Amen.

You can only rhyme so much about your rims, your whip, your crib, your bitches, your cash money, your bling and how hard you are. It's old now and I do respect the few that are rapping about other shit.

I can almost see the director explaining to these thugs about this great ground breaking idea for a video... "picture this" he says.... "your at a club, everything is slow motion, models dancing all around, your popping bottles and all your homeboys are there, ice all over your wrists and necks, cars pulling up out from in slow motion with rims spinning... saturated colors and lots of bright lights... it will be the hottest video ever, totally original!"

And for the re-mix... R-Kelly can do a few lines and sign about the after party.

It's a hit.
great description of the music video pitch! its funny, but its true. i pictured so many different videos that are like that in my mind.

the best music video right now, and its not about bling, is JADAKISS-WHY? thats a music video.
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The whole rap/hip hop thing is getting pretty retarded. This bling/ice and the clothing and the rims and bitches and shit is getting so boring. You have to realize though that most of they hip hop dudes arent exactly the smartest people around. That in combination with fame and money does weird things to a person.
and what revolutions are being made in other forms of music?

Techno - Dance to this music, everyone have fun, sex
Hard Rock- Sex, drugs and rock n roll.
Metal - Darkness rules, evil is all around us
Punk/Emo - Have fun do not conform, oh woa is me
R & B - the happyness and pain of love and relationships
Goth - mix metal and emo: darkness rules, oh woa is me no one accepts me
Country - losing it all, we are poor but we survive

Music does not change much on any level other than it gets super saturated with the same messages and every once in a while someone comes along with a sub-genre such as gangsta/floss/bounce/phycho/metal hop for rap, drum and bass/electronica/club/break beat etc etc for techno and ska etc for punk/emo. If you listen to other forms of music other than rap you are no more revolutionary you are just not as popular anymore
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I can name one that tried riding his shitty fame and that's Ton Loc. Saw him a few years ago and he brought his cousins on stage with a boombox. Turned on the boombox with a prerecorded tape of his shit and proceeded to rap.
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LOL

yeah, and just recently, joe budden came to san diego. the promoters only got about 20 people to the show in a building that holds 3500. the entourage on stage was more people than the audience. it looked so bad. no one in san diego knows or cares who joe budden is. the entourage was on stage acting like it was the biggest thing they ever did. maybe it was. then joe budden came out and got on the mic and said "fuck san diego" and they left. LOL
LOL! Thats hilarious! Poor Joe! He must if felt like a loser!
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wouldn't it be funny if the country guys took what the rap guys do with their emtourages on stage?

imagine it.

you'd have a bunch of dudes in suspender pants and pitch forks on stage standing around like they were hard. LMAO

"hey rufus, go on down to the barn and git me another bag a tobaccy, we's about to do the encore number."

and then a rival country singer rolls up outside on his john deere and does a "tractor by" on the show.

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this thread is pretty hilarious thanks for posting. I have read quite a few threads today other than this on GFY and quite a few were about cars and money and what I have what you don't how about if you guys write a rap about that and then all five of you can sit on stage and sing it to all twelve of your friends.

I really am not hating either way but was amused...
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this thread is pretty hilarious thanks for posting. I have read quite a few threads today other than this on GFY and quite a few were about cars and money and what I have what you don't how about if you guys write a rap about that and then all five of you can sit on stage and sing it to all twelve of your friends.

I really am not hating either way but was amused...
yeah, we should have ytcracker hook up some lyrics about this. could be amusing.
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I got BG's new album "Life after Cash Money" and as one of the most lyrical rappers I have ever heard I sat down to see what new stories he was going to tell me. Listening carefully it came to me just why some of the guys here do not like rappers. I see a lot of guys talking about how retarded rapping about drugs, bitches, fucking, money, cars and disrespecting women when it dawned on me.

They are talking about the same shit most of the people here do, INCLUDING the people who are complaining. If you look around here you see pics of big rims on cars, expensive cars, hot chics, talks about how many women you fucked, disrespect of talent/models/party girls and of course drugs. The differance is you KNOW the rappers are doing it and making way more money and sleeping with hot chics and not having to pay for it or call it an "interview"

How hypocritical is it to be in the porn industry and exploit women for money and then turn around and condemn a rapper for REALLY doing what our industry portraits. Do you smell that *sniff sniff* smells like HATER, Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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All im saying is that this game is getting boring,.. and where is the talent nowadays?

I'm a music lover...in general...I like all different kinds of music...I just don't feel entertained by the entainment industry anymore. Everythings starting to sound the same AND look the same. Especially in Hip Hop. It's hard to hear something that sounds original. I really appreciate the artists that can bring something unique to the table that actually have something to say and some knowledge to spit. That's music...That's talent.

Yea there's some tracks out there where they talk about rims,hoes$$$....That I like to bump, don't get me wrong...

but in any case, if you don't have diversity...Shit gets boring.
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LOL. Damn, this thread sure took some strange turns.
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yep. the power of positive music. there are others. black eyed peas and the roots to name a few, that have made it in hip hop and rap, that don't need to rap about the bling. loosely stated as well, the fugees and wyclef. wyclef has gotten a little into the bling thing as of late, but hasn't sold out in my book.
Funny, Mase and the Peas are in my cd changer at the moment
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yeppers.

black eyed peas and jadakiss and mase are on repeat on my IPOD. i freaking love that welcome back song.
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