Need billing, don't have a US company, what do I do? - GoFuckYourself.com

Goonx · 10-10-2004, 07:57 AM

I need to setup billing for a paysite, I'm located in Canada and don't have anything in the US, how can I set something up and with who should I go with?

I've been doing everything but paysites, so I'm not sure how to go about setting up billing, any help is appriciated.

Thank you.

Kevin2 · 10-10-2004, 07:59 AM

You can use Verotel.

Goonx · 10-10-2004, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin2
You can use Verotel.

are they ok?
can you even compare them to ccbill or ibill?

JakeR · 10-10-2004, 08:01 AM

you set up a US corporation and take advantage of cheaper processing.

Kevin2 · 10-10-2004, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goonx
are they ok?
can you even compare them to ccbill or ibill?

I use CCbill, Verotel and I used to use Ibill.

Goonx · 10-10-2004, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JakeR
you set up a US corporation and take advantage of cheaper processing.

I will need the money sent to my Canadian address not the US corporation address, is that possible?

Kevin2 · 10-10-2004, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goonx
I will need the money sent to my Canadian address not the US corporation address, is that possible?

Yes my money is sent to me in Australia

Goonx · 10-10-2004, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin2
Yes my money is sent to me in Australia

cool, so what exactly do you need in the US? a corporation and a physical address? do they send you anything or call the physical address?

Kevin2 · 10-10-2004, 08:13 AM

You need to have a social security number, corporation and physical address. There are different packages they offer to setup a corp for you. The best is to check out a few of them and compare what they offer.

Ben.Z · 10-10-2004, 08:26 AM

Goonx, we can accommodate your ACH payment ( online check ) needs. Hit me up when you get a chance. Or just click through my sig for more details.

Goonx · 10-10-2004, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WTS - Ben
Goonx, we can accommodate your ACH payment ( online check ) needs. Hit me up when you get a chance. Or just click through my sig for more details.

Thank you, but I need to figure out credit cards first

junction · 10-10-2004, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goonx
I will need the money sent to my Canadian address not the US corporation address, is that possible?

Set up a Nevada Corporation. Use a virtual office with mail forwarding.

icedemon · 10-10-2004, 12:45 PM

You could try
http://www.nikrobilling.com
or
http://www.billingdirect.net
One of them should be able to help you out if your outside the US.

VeriSexy · 10-10-2004, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by icedemon
You could try
http://www.nikrobilling.com
or
http://www.billingdirect.net
One of them should be able to help you out if your outside the US.

Are you using either of them?

icedemon · 10-10-2004, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy
Are you using either of them?

I use nikro billing. I don't use billingdirect cause they are too expensive. Nikro billing has been a great company since I started using them. They've been great on customer service and getting me setup fast when I first signed up with them.

VeriSexy · 10-10-2004, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by icedemon
I use nikro billing. I don't use billingdirect cause they are too expensive. Nikro billing has been a great company since I started using them. They've been great on customer service and getting me setup fast when I first signed up with them.

Have you ever used Ccbill, epoch etc....? How do they compare?

lacorporacione · 10-10-2004, 05:56 PM

Contact us and we can set you up a dedicated merchant acc. with same day approval.

Ty W · 10-10-2004, 06:33 PM

Hey Goonx,

You should also check out eCommerceGlobal.com for back up processing:

* Fast Setup and Low Rates
* Live Client Support and Live Support for your Customers
* Real-Time Reports on Transactions
* Settlement by Wire Transfers / Direct Deposit
* One-Time & Recurring Transactions
* Professional front and back-end Interface
* Fraud Scrubbing & Complete Transaction Reports
* Free technical support
* Affiliate Tracking Program
* Customized Join Pages
* Customized Emails
* Cascade Billing
* Password - Membership Management
* Discreet Billing Descriptor
* Offshore processing, with sales / support office in Seattle, WA.

TO LEARN MORE AND GET STARTED:
http://www.eCommerceGlobal.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=5

Feel free to contact me if I can be of any further assistance,

Ty Wilson
800-559-2716
www.eCommerceGlobal.com
[email protected]
ICQ # 209963807

icedemon · 10-10-2004, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy
Have you ever used Ccbill, epoch etc....? How do they compare?

I have CCBill as my backup. I switched from iBill to Nikro Billing a couple of months ago. iBill compared to Nikro Billing is night and day. Never looked back. My rebills are gone from iBill I guess, but haven't had any problems with Nikro Billing. All emails are responded to in a timely manner and I can always get someone on the phone to talk to about something if I need to. Nikro Billing has even added some features that I requested. They want to keep their customers, so they are very one-on-one.

At least that has been my experience. I haven't sent any customers through CCBill yet. So I can't compare them both.

VeriSexy · 10-11-2004, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by icedemon
I have CCBill as my backup. I switched from iBill to Nikro Billing a couple of months ago. iBill compared to Nikro Billing is night and day. Never looked back. My rebills are gone from iBill I guess, but haven't had any problems with Nikro Billing. All emails are responded to in a timely manner and I can always get someone on the phone to talk to about something if I need to. Nikro Billing has even added some features that I requested. They want to keep their customers, so they are very one-on-one.

At least that has been my experience. I haven't sent any customers through CCBill yet. So I can't compare them both.

Thanks. you know anyone else using Nikro? I have never heard of these guys before.

RegUser · 01-07-2005, 08:46 PM

any others here who have used Nikro Billing?

dcortez · 01-07-2005, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icedemon

You could try
http://www.nikrobilling.com

I've been using NikroBilling for a couple months so far and they are a good bunch - responsive support, payments on time.

-Dino

Webby · 01-07-2005, 09:35 PM

Goonx:

If you need a processor in addition to Verotel (and you do!!! *s*), get a Euro corp.

You can then deal with CCBillEU and any processor in the EU banking region. A basic corp (not Euro "offshore") costs less than any North American VISA fees and no VISA fees apply in Europe.

Check out eg.. a UK non resident company
http://www.jordans.co.uk

Nominee dirs and a "presence" are other options. Tax exemption from all UK taxes is available and no chance of any withholding taxes applies as with US corps.

xclusive · 01-07-2005, 09:37 PM

CCbill is the way to go

Hinc · 01-07-2005, 10:31 PM

Nikrobilling charges 20% + 5% hold on transactions... that seens like ALOT

Hinc · 01-07-2005, 10:33 PM

...oh and escommerce is - 13.75% + 49usd monthly managament fee.

RegUser · 01-08-2005, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc

Nikrobilling charges 20% + 5% hold on transactions... that seens like ALOT

yes 25% is way too much

Mike Okitch · 01-08-2005, 07:05 PM

www.123bill.com

RegUser · 01-09-2005, 07:36 AM

I am not sure how many surfers would be willing to provide the following for 123bill.com
"We collect your full name, date of birth, address, phone number and your Social Security number."

chupachups · 01-09-2005, 07:40 AM

Talk to Joshua at myvirtualcard.com

haimhle · 01-09-2005, 08:47 AM

you can try www.ntpay.com

DEA - banned for life · 01-09-2005, 09:27 AM

try Ibill...

Billman · 01-09-2005, 09:40 AM

You can use CardsGate .

Hinc · 01-09-2005, 10:24 AM

Social security number is a lame thing to demand from surfers....

ntpay looks expensive...

i´d still go for verotel and ccbill

lottrbacchus · 01-09-2005, 10:50 AM

couldnt be bothered to read through all the stuff. my company is in central europe and we use ccbill

DutchTeenCash · 01-09-2005, 10:55 AM

ccbill EU works fine

Kimmykim · 01-09-2005, 11:02 AM

You can set up your own merchant account in several different regions, depending upon where you want to start a shell corporation to establish a presence. My suggestion would be Asia, since the merchant accounts there are capped at a 2% chargeback allowables ratio, instead of the 1% the US region is bound to.

ICQ me if you need any help, I'll be glad to walk you through things.

Lykos · 01-09-2005, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin2

You can use Verotel.

yeap u can try them!

rewn · 06-14-2005, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billman

You can use CardsGate .

no no , cardsgate are the biggest fraud scammers , dodgy russians.

Verotel is very very good, they are a dutch company, go with them.

Trax · 06-14-2005, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billman

You can use CardsGate .

billman you dirty fuck....
don't come here offering anyone your scammy processing solution... Where is the money you have stolen from me?? stupid piece of shit

Cogitator · 06-23-2005, 09:19 PM

www.opsbilling.com

seeric · 06-23-2005, 09:24 PM

www.opsbilling.com

Tempest · 06-23-2005, 09:39 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=472882

I would probably go the route of the UK corp or Gibraltar so you take advantage of EU Paycom although the 2% chargeback Kimmykim mentioned would be mighty appealing.

vicki · 06-23-2005, 10:06 PM

Goonx

It is NOT necessary to go through the cost and bother of setting up the US based corp when 2 of the 3 local banks are taking no new apps due to heavy fines from visa.

You can take an EU solution, Asian or Island solution for almost the same discount rates (approx 6.5-7.6% depending on your specifics)
no incorporation costs for some of them
no setup or app costs for many

There are sooo many options available nowdays IMHO it would be in your best interest to talk one on one with a registered ISO with several different of banking solutions at their fingertips.

I'm here is you want to talk

vicki · 06-23-2005, 10:38 PM

lol boy did I make some grammar/spelling errors or what?!

*looking around* ok who switched my keyboard? lol

PS yes, I really speak english ;)

spooky181 · 06-23-2005, 11:06 PM

It's Verotel hands down they have been awesome for us for the past 4 years..

10-10-2004, 07:57 AM	#1
Goonx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,048	Need billing, don't have a US company, what do I do? I need to setup billing for a paysite, I'm located in Canada and don't have anything in the US, how can I set something up and with who should I go with? I've been doing everything but paysites, so I'm not sure how to go about setting up billing, any help is appriciated. Thank you.

10-10-2004, 07:59 AM	#2
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10-10-2004, 08:13 AM	#9
Kevin2 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,429	You need to have a social security number, corporation and physical address. There are different packages they offer to setup a corp for you. The best is to check out a few of them and compare what they offer. __________________ Webmasters Trade Traffic!!!

10-10-2004, 08:26 AM	#10
Ben.Z Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CardReady.com Posts: 1,164	Goonx, we can accommodate your ACH payment ( online check ) needs. Hit me up when you get a chance. Or just click through my sig for more details. __________________ *Credit Card Processing for Adult Merchants* Contact me: Ben Z. (ben\|AT\|CardReady.com) ICQ_138827832 Toll Free: 1.888.398.6001 Ext.212

10-10-2004, 12:45 PM	#13
icedemon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lutz, FL Posts: 1,022	You could try http://www.nikrobilling.com or http://www.billingdirect.net One of them should be able to help you out if your outside the US.

10-10-2004, 05:56 PM	#17
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10-10-2004, 06:33 PM	#18
Ty W Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 47	Hey Goonx, You should also check out eCommerceGlobal.com for back up processing: * Fast Setup and Low Rates * Live Client Support and Live Support for your Customers * Real-Time Reports on Transactions * Settlement by Wire Transfers / Direct Deposit * One-Time & Recurring Transactions * Professional front and back-end Interface * Fraud Scrubbing & Complete Transaction Reports * Free technical support * Affiliate Tracking Program * Customized Join Pages * Customized Emails * Cascade Billing * Password - Membership Management * Discreet Billing Descriptor * Offshore processing, with sales / support office in Seattle, WA. TO LEARN MORE AND GET STARTED: http://www.eCommerceGlobal.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=5 Feel free to contact me if I can be of any further assistance, Ty Wilson 800-559-2716 www.eCommerceGlobal.com [email protected] ICQ # 209963807 __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

01-07-2005, 08:46 PM	#21
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	any others here who have used Nikro Billing?

01-07-2005, 09:35 PM	#23
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Goonx: If you need a processor in addition to Verotel (and you do!!! s), get a Euro corp. You can then deal with CCBillEU and any processor in the EU banking region. A basic corp (not Euro "offshore") costs less than any North American VISA fees and no VISA fees apply in Europe. Check out eg.. a UK non resident company http://www.jordans.co.uk Nominee dirs and a "presence" are other options. Tax exemption from all UK taxes is available and no chance of any withholding taxes applies as with US corps. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

01-07-2005, 09:37 PM	#24
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01-07-2005, 10:31 PM	#25
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Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	...oh and escommerce is - 13.75% + 49usd monthly managament fee. __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

01-08-2005, 07:05 PM	#28
Mike Okitch Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba Posts: 4,126	www.123bill.com __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

01-09-2005, 07:36 AM	#29
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	I am not sure how many surfers would be willing to provide the following for 123bill.com "We collect your full name, date of birth, address, phone number and your Social Security number."

01-09-2005, 07:40 AM	#30
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01-09-2005, 08:47 AM	#31
haimhle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 43	you can try www.ntpay.com

01-09-2005, 09:27 AM	#32
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	try Ibill...

01-09-2005, 09:40 AM	#33
Billman Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 10	You can use CardsGate . __________________ .

01-09-2005, 10:24 AM	#34
Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	Social security number is a lame thing to demand from surfers.... ntpay looks expensive... i´d still go for verotel and ccbill __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

01-09-2005, 10:50 AM	#35
lottrbacchus Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 13	couldnt be bothered to read through all the stuff. my company is in central europe and we use ccbill

01-09-2005, 10:55 AM	#36
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01-09-2005, 11:02 AM	#37
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	You can set up your own merchant account in several different regions, depending upon where you want to start a shell corporation to establish a presence. My suggestion would be Asia, since the merchant accounts there are capped at a 2% chargeback allowables ratio, instead of the 1% the US region is bound to. ICQ me if you need any help, I'll be glad to walk you through things.

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seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	www.opsbilling.com

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Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=472882 I would probably go the route of the UK corp or Gibraltar so you take advantage of EU Paycom although the 2% chargeback Kimmykim mentioned would be mighty appealing.

06-23-2005, 10:06 PM	#44
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	Goonx It is NOT necessary to go through the cost and bother of setting up the US based corp when 2 of the 3 local banks are taking no new apps due to heavy fines from visa. You can take an EU solution, Asian or Island solution for almost the same discount rates (approx 6.5-7.6% depending on your specifics) no incorporation costs for some of them no setup or app costs for many There are sooo many options available nowdays IMHO it would be in your best interest to talk one on one with a registered ISO with several different of banking solutions at their fingertips. I'm here is you want to talk __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

06-23-2005, 10:38 PM	#45
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	lol boy did I make some grammar/spelling errors or what?! looking around ok who switched my keyboard? lol PS yes, I really speak english ;) __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

06-23-2005, 11:06 PM	#46
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	It's Verotel hands down they have been awesome for us for the past 4 years..