MSNBC poll over 400,000

[SuckOnThis]

71% in Kerry's favor

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/#survey

[Fake Nick]

suck on that mr president

[JSA Matt]

[GatorB]

Fox poll 99.999% Bush.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally posted by GatorB
Fox poll 99.999% Bush.

Guess it kinda lets you know really how out of touch the media is with the American Public.

[Screaming]

[xxxdesign-net]

on cnn.com its
Kerry 80%
Bush 20%

Total: 103444 votes

[kristin]

WOW! Huh, I wonder how he's gonna fix the numbers to win this election ...

[SuckOnThis]

Where is the Fox News poll?

[MediumPimpin]

I can't find the fox poll, here are the others,

CBS Kerry 92.5%
CNN Kerry 79%
MSNBC Kerry 71%

and GFY Kerry 80.95%

Nuff said Bush got his ass handed to him.

[Dead13]

Originally posted by MediumPimpin
I can't find the fox poll, here are the others,

CBS Kerry 92.5%
CNN Kerry 79%
MSNBC Kerry 71%

and GFY Kerry 80.95%

Nuff said Bush got his ass handed to him.

Amen Brotha!

[Theo]

cbsnews

Who won the presidential debate?


John Kerry:
91.97%
President Bush:
7.30%
Neither man. It was a draw :
0.73%

[KRL]

That's actually bad for Kerry. Voters will be less inclined to get out and vote thinking he's got enough support without their vote.

[GatorB]

Originally posted by MediumPimpin
I can't find the fox poll, here are the others.

Of course not it would show Bush lost.

[MediumPimpin]

Well try to find it I looked, give it shot?

[Lensman]

CNN: http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/result...1.exclude.html

[Centurion]

Originally posted by KRL
That's actually bad for Kerry. Voters will be less inclined to get out and vote thinking he's got enough support without their vote.

Don't know if you've read about how well the Democrats are doing in registering new voters or not.

NBC had a couple of bits last nite about how the democrats are outdoing the republicans in registering American voters living overseas. And have read in a couple of different mags how in Florida and Ohio, that the Democrats have been registering new voters (likely democratic natch) at better than a 3-1 ratio over the Repubs.

VERY encouraging!

[BRISK]

Announcing the invasion of Iraq on March 19, 2003, Mr. Bush said, ?Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.?

Two months into the war, on May 29, 2003, Mr. Bush said weapons of mass destruction had been found.

?We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories,? Mr. Bush told Polish television. ?For those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."

On Sept. 9, 2004, in Pennsylvania, Mr. Bush said: ?I recognize we didn't find the stockpiles [of weapons] we all thought were there.?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in646142.shtml

[Centurion]

I think this pretty well sums it up:
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"I'm disappointed in the president's performance," said Allan Ramsey, a 67-year-old retiree who told The Associated Press before the debate that he was leaning toward Bush. "I didn't make much sense of the president's answers."

Angered by the situation in Iraq and the state of the U.S. economy, the Hedgesville, W.Va., man said last week he was open to change in the White House but found Kerry unappealing. That changed Thursday night.

"I was looking for reasons to maybe vote for Kerry, and I think I found them - the point he made about us going to Iraq for the wrong reason, and we don't really have a solution."

Pam Russell, a 55-year-old retiree from Detroit who went into the debate undecided, said afterward she's leaning toward Kerry.

"Bush looked real nervous," she said. "Bush was mad. He kept frowning." "I think Bush, he kept using the same spin and rhetoric instead of him saying something different than he's been saying all the time," she said.


http://www.king5.com/sharedcontent/n....281571d6.html

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by KRL
That's actually bad for Kerry. Voters will be less inclined to get out and vote thinking he's got enough support without their vote.

The Republican in you rears it's head every so often.

[Centurion]

I was VERY suprised by this debate (pleasantly I might add).

Kerry did much better than I thought he would and Bush DEFINITELY did a lot worse than I thought he would.

Bush really had nothing but the line "you're giving mixed messages" which he pounded into the ground ad nauseum and I think nation nauseum.

I watched it on MSNBC where Ron Regean's first words after the debate: "We have an election! Kerry did very well!"

And STUNNINGLY, Joe Scarborough..very right leaning former Florida congressman who does a show on MSNBC came right out and said "I will admit that tonite, Kerry decisively won the debate."

Man..when fellow right wingers are dumping on ya, you know you gave a stinky performance!

[Doctor Dre]

Bush got RAPED :P

[Centurion]

An example of the new voter registration drive I talked about earlier:

COLUMBUS, Ohio - A sweeping voter registration campaign in heavily Democratic areas has added tens of thousands of new voters to the rolls in the swing states of Ohio and Florida, a surge that has far exceeded the efforts of Republicans in both states, a review of registration data shows.

The analysis by The New York Times of county-by-county data shows that in Democratic areas of Ohio - primarily low-income and minority neighborhoods - new registrations since January have risen 250 percent over the same period in 2000. In comparison, new registrations have increased just 25 percent in Republican areas. A similar pattern is apparent in Florida: in the strongest Democratic areas, the pace of new registration is 60 percent higher than in 2000, while it has risen just 12 percent in the heaviest Republican areas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/26/po...gn/26vote.html

[Centurion]

One more article about the upswing in new voters:

AP) -- New voters are flooding local election offices with paperwork, registering in significantly higher numbers than four years ago as attention to the presidential election runs high and an array of activist groups recruit would-be voters who could prove critical come November 2.

Cleveland has seen nearly twice as many new voters register so far as compared with 2000; Philadelphia is having its biggest boom in new voters in 20 years; and counties are bringing in temporary workers and employees from other agencies to help process all the new registration forms.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...new.voters.ap/

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
71% in Kerry's favor

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/#survey

From their website

This is not a scientifically valid survey

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by Centurion
An example of the new voter registration drive I talked about earlier:

COLUMBUS, Ohio - A sweeping voter registration campaign in heavily Democratic areas has added tens of thousands of new voters to the rolls in the swing states of Ohio and Florida, a surge that has far exceeded the efforts of Republicans in both states, a review of registration data shows.

The analysis by The New York Times of county-by-county data shows that in Democratic areas of Ohio - primarily low-income and minority neighborhoods - new registrations since January have risen 250 percent over the same period in 2000. In comparison, new registrations have increased just 25 percent in Republican areas. A similar pattern is apparent in Florida: in the strongest Democratic areas, the pace of new registration is 60 percent higher than in 2000, while it has risen just 12 percent in the heaviest Republican areas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/26/po...gn/26vote.html

There is a HUGE difference between getting them registered and keeping them off crack long enough to actually go to the polls.

[Tom_PMs]

Originally posted by boobmaster
From their website

This is not a scientifically valid survey

No survey or poll is scientifically valid.

Face it, Kerry shined in this night. There's 2 more to go, and VP's go at it next week.

[Tom_PMs]

Originally posted by boobmaster
There is a HUGE difference between getting them registered and keeping them off crack long enough to actually go to the polls.

Try making an actual argument

[titmowse]

[Centurion]

BoobMaster Posted:

"There is a HUGE difference between getting them registered and keeping them off crack long enough to actually go to the polls."

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Yes there is, but the point I'm trying to make here is that the many of them REGISTERED ON THEIR OWN! The fact that so many new voters have come forth voluntarily would SEEM to indicate that they plan on voting also.

[foolio]

boobmaster = ass clown

[SmokeyTheBear]

Who won the debate? * 590845 responses


Pres. Bush
30% Sen. Kerry
70%

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by Tom_PM
No survey or poll is scientifically valid.

Face it, Kerry shined in this night. There's 2 more to go, and VP's go at it next week.

People cast their votes via their website, for crying out loud. I certainly wouldn't get all giddy over that.

Yes, Kerry looked very good, and Bush was, well, Bush. He is NOT the most gifted speaker, but there is one thing about him that draws voters: he speaks with great passion. I think you'll be surprised at the public reaction when the REAL polls come out.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally posted by boobmaster
From their website

This is not a scientifically valid survey

From your head

This is not a scientifically thinking brain

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by Centurion
BoobMaster Posted:

"There is a HUGE difference between getting them registered and keeping them off crack long enough to actually go to the polls."

------------------------

Yes there is, but the point I'm trying to make here is that the many of them REGISTERED ON THEIR OWN! The fact that so many new voters have come forth voluntarily would SEEM to indicate that they plan on voting also.

We shall see. The democrats ALWAYS get bigger numbers than republicans in voter registration. However, regiastered republican voters are FAR MORE LIKELY to go to the polls than their democratic counterparts.

[Centurion]

Boobmaster posted:

Yes, Kerry looked very good, and Bush was, well, Bush. He is NOT the most gifted speaker, but there is one thing about him that draws voters: he speaks with great passion. I think you'll be surprised at the public reaction when the REAL polls come out.
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He DOES?

Hmm..well he obviously forgot to show up with his passion tonite!
He seemed almost ANNOYED that he was even there. I think he was upset because he was missing Nick At Nite!

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by Centurion
Boobmaster posted:

Yes, Kerry looked very good, and Bush was, well, Bush. He is NOT the most gifted speaker, but there is one thing about him that draws voters: he speaks with great passion. I think you'll be surprised at the public reaction when the REAL polls come out.
--------------------------

He DOES?

Hmm..well he obviously forgot to show up with his passion tonite!
He seemed almost ANNOYED that he was even there. I think he was upset because he was missing Nick At Nite!

You saw a lack of passion because you DON'T LIKE HIM. It's amazing how blind people can be sometimes.

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
From your head

This is not a scientifically thinking brain

I copied that quote DIRECTLY from their website. That makes me an idiot? Whatever. I'm not taking the bait anymore. Sorry!

[Centurion]

Boobmaster posted:

You saw a lack of passion because you DON'T LIKE HIM. It's amazing how blind people can be sometimes.

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There is a REASON I don't like him and that's because his policies are terrible and are putting our country at greater peril!

But even withstanding that..my dislike of him didn't sway what was OBVIOUS (Even Lens just posted that Fox News said Kerry won the debate)..and that is that Kerry plastered Bush all over the wall tonite.

[uno]

Originally posted by boobmaster
From their website

This is not a scientifically valid survey

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by uno

OK! THIS QUOTE WAS ON THEIR FREAKING WEB SITE.

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by Centurion
Boobmaster posted:

You saw a lack of passion because you DON'T LIKE HIM. It's amazing how blind people can be sometimes.

-------------

There is a REASON I don't like him and that's because his policies are terrible and are putting our country at greater peril!

But even withstanding that..my dislike of him didn't sway what was OBVIOUS (Even Lens just posted that Fox News said Kerry won the debate)..and that is that Kerry plastered Bush all over the wall tonite.

I don't think I'd use the word 'plastered'. He did win though. But so fucking what! Do you think one debate is going to have that much of an impact?

[Rich]

I knew Americans would see right through Bush's bullshit when they took the time to listen to it. That was the first time we got an unbiased view of Kerry and Bush at the same time and the people are speaking!

The only thing is, these numbers will probably change over the next couple days. You'll get people voting who didn't watch it, people who just got their impression from the pundits.

[uno]

Originally posted by boobmaster
OK! THIS QUOTE WAS ON THEIR FREAKING WEB SITE.

Um ya, but who cares if its not scientific. Is anyone claiming this one poll is the be-all-end-all poll? No. It just temporarily shows what everyone who was watching already knows. Kerry cleaned the floor with Bush.

As far as passion from Bush, I saw some feigned pauses and emotion. None of which sounded real. Same with Kerry, tho not as much considering Kerry is pretty monotone.

[uno]

Originally posted by boobmaster
I don't think I'd use the word 'plastered'. He did win though. But so fucking what! Do you think one debate is going to have that much of an impact?

If its anything like some of the debates in past elections, yes. The most people watch the first debate.

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by uno
Um ya, but who cares if its not scientific. Is anyone claiming this one poll is the be-all-end-all poll? No. It just temporarily shows what everyone who was watching already knows. Kerry cleaned the floor with Bush.

As far as passion from Bush, I saw some feigned pauses and emotion. None of which sounded real. Same with Kerry, tho not as much considering Kerry is pretty monotone.

You really need to go look up the difference between a scientifically valid poll, conducted by professionals, and a completely unscientific web survey.

[Centurion]

Boobmaster wrote:
I don't think I'd use the word 'plastered'. He did win though. But so fucking what! Do you think one debate is going to have that much of an impact?
-----------------

Um..in a word.. YES!

[Bigjohn]

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
71% in Kerry's favor

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/#survey

WHAT!!!! Fucking Bush LIED!!!!
He said the american people had spoken and he was confident he would be re-elected!!!!

Okay, that's it.... no fruit cake for George this year

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by boobmaster
You really need to go look up the difference between a scientifically valid poll, conducted by professionals, and a completely unscientific web survey.

Do you really need a scientific poll to tell you Bush got his ass handed to him?

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by uno
If its anything like some of the debates in past elections, yes. The most people watch the first debate.

All Kerry did tonight was attack Bush, a strategy which can EASILY backfire. When it comes right down to it, people don't know any more about him than they did five minutes before the debate.