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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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How many webmasters would an average size paysite have?
OK I know what you are going to say, "What's average?"
So let's say a paysite with 1,000 members. How many webmasters would that need to get that number of members, assuming it was mainstream good teen porn, solo, two girl and boy girl? 10 - 20 50 - 75 200 - 300 500+ !,000+ And howmuch would the sponsor have to give out in FHGs and free content to the webmasters? |
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wouldn't it depend on how much the webmasters promote it?
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i think 200-300 is enough
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5000+ if you have no traffic of your own, and you get the regular 0-3 signups per month webmasters.
3 if you get a few whales to promote you and have traffic of your own.
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Alot of webmasters will come to you if you got freehosted galleries BUT 80% of them will send you 5-20 hits day....
Your site have to be something extra if you want webmasters to send some serious traffic.... |
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for 1000 members lets say 1000 affiliates, but I doubt a paysite with 1000 members is average, maybe 5-10k members is a middle sized paysite. With 1000 members you will make less than promoting other sponsors.
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Content 5 sets a day $3,000 to $5,000 Affiliates account for 1 sign up in 3 members stay two monts on avarage. = $5,000 B/W hosting, etc $5,000 Processing $3,000 Profit $12,000 and rising. How many webmasters make that CLEAR. After they have bought content, B/W, design, etc? |
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1,000 members @ $30 a month = $30 000 affiliates = 60%(most will get only 50%, but you have to give 60-70% to the big guys) YOU = 12 000 Content 5 sets a day $3,000 to $5,000 YOU = 7 000 B/W hosting, etc $5,000 Processing (16% - ccbill) $5,000 YOU = -$3000 ![]() |
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5% of your affiliates bring in 95% of the money . . . so you only need 1 or 2
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you see, when TGP's first came about they were meant to give samples to show the surfer what he was going to buy a membership to (hopefully). |
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again.........
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAHA .............. |
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1000 members maybe is a middle sized paysite if you promote it your self with no webmasters........thats my
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average is about 500-1000
good is 1000-4000 awesome is 4000 and above. Mind you many networks have 10 sites with 5-6k members per site. Duke
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The average is impossible to determine unless you have access to a billing company's records.
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Offer me 1000+ FHG's in total, a few good converting, exclusive paysites and I can send you a LOT of signups
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Not sure, I think the descriptions are already made but they haven't been added to the gallery databases yet. We try to add them once a week or so ![]() |
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Depends on who you're target to.Real but small webmasters, bigger webmasters or whales.
If you're going with the "Make easy money in adult with less work" flow you'll get lots of webmasters that'll never send you any traffic. Small ones will get you 1-5 signups per month bigger 1-5 per day and whales 15-50 per day. If you do the work of checking every affiliate signup and contacting the person, asking for sites ways he'll promote you etc. you'll get definately more real webmasters. |
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???????? Those are numbers for a PPS program with exits, cross-sales and 50 sales a day, that means thousands of members after few months, even more after 1-2 years. I bet Charly would start with revshare and therefore no exits and no cross-sales. |
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1000+ definetly
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Nobody is factoring in the Cross sales, exits, dialers, checks, upsales, etc. This is where the money is made after payouts.
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If I had a good small to medium size paysite and did not
bother with the extra admin work of obtaining affiliates and managed with my own promo to have 500 members a month I would be a very happy person or am I wrong? I never had my own paysite but sometimes I consider it. Marco
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I wonder does the 80/20 rule apply here like in sales. Where 20 percent of the webmasters make 80 percent of the sales. I can see in our own small small program, we have a bunch of people who signed up and did nothing with it .
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Plus epassporte payout option, no consoles, no traffic leaks, detailed real time stats With the above features I would include you in my databases and many others too I am sure |
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He is driving traffic to sites that have similar content to ours, getting listed on World Sex, Mad Thumbs, Richards Realm, The Hun and others as a partner because he is not using FHGs, submitting pages with content that is not out there every where. Problem with FHGs is how many have them and how many times has the surfer seen it. Also unless it exclusive content it wil already be out there. However if it is exclusive the surfer will see it time and time again and will probably think subconsciously that he's seen the set. Which defeats the object. And lastly he can afford it. ![]() |
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