SuckOnThis

71% in Kerry's favor

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/#survey

Fake Nick

suck on that mr president

JSA Matt

GatorB

Fox poll 99.999% Bush.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

Guess it kinda lets you know really how out of touch the media is with the American Public.

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on cnn.com its
Kerry 80%
Bush 20%

Total: 103444 votes

kristin

WOW! Huh, I wonder how he's gonna fix the numbers to win this election ...

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SuckOnThis

Where is the Fox News poll?

MediumPimpin

I can't find the fox poll, here are the others,

CBS Kerry 92.5%
CNN Kerry 79%
MSNBC Kerry 71%

and GFY Kerry 80.95%

Nuff said Bush got his ass handed to him.

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Dead13

Amen Brotha!

Theo

cbsnews

Who won the presidential debate?


John Kerry:
91.97%
President Bush:
7.30%
Neither man. It was a draw :
0.73%

KRL

That's actually bad for Kerry. Voters will be less inclined to get out and vote thinking he's got enough support without their vote.

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GatorB

Of course not it would show Bush lost.

MediumPimpin

Well try to find it I looked, give it shot?

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Lensman

CNN: http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/result...1.exclude.html

Centurion

Don't know if you've read about how well the Democrats are doing in registering new voters or not.

NBC had a couple of bits last nite about how the democrats are outdoing the republicans in registering American voters living overseas. And have read in a couple of different mags how in Florida and Ohio, that the Democrats have been registering new voters (likely democratic natch) at better than a 3-1 ratio over the Repubs.

VERY encouraging!

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Announcing the invasion of Iraq on March 19, 2003, Mr. Bush said, ?Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.?

Two months into the war, on May 29, 2003, Mr. Bush said weapons of mass destruction had been found.

?We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories,? Mr. Bush told Polish television. ?For those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."

On Sept. 9, 2004, in Pennsylvania, Mr. Bush said: ?I recognize we didn't find the stockpiles [of weapons] we all thought were there.?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in646142.shtml

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I think this pretty well sums it up:
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"I'm disappointed in the president's performance," said Allan Ramsey, a 67-year-old retiree who told The Associated Press before the debate that he was leaning toward Bush. "I didn't make much sense of the president's answers."

Angered by the situation in Iraq and the state of the U.S. economy, the Hedgesville, W.Va., man said last week he was open to change in the White House but found Kerry unappealing. That changed Thursday night.

"I was looking for reasons to maybe vote for Kerry, and I think I found them - the point he made about us going to Iraq for the wrong reason, and we don't really have a solution."

Pam Russell, a 55-year-old retiree from Detroit who went into the debate undecided, said afterward she's leaning toward Kerry.

"Bush looked real nervous," she said. "Bush was mad. He kept frowning." "I think Bush, he kept using the same spin and rhetoric instead of him saying something different than he's been saying all the time," she said.


http://www.king5.com/sharedcontent/n....281571d6.html

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The Republican in you rears it's head every so often.

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Centurion

I was VERY suprised by this debate (pleasantly I might add).

Kerry did much better than I thought he would and Bush DEFINITELY did a lot worse than I thought he would.

Bush really had nothing but the line "you're giving mixed messages" which he pounded into the ground ad nauseum and I think nation nauseum.

I watched it on MSNBC where Ron Regean's first words after the debate: "We have an election! Kerry did very well!"

And STUNNINGLY, Joe Scarborough..very right leaning former Florida congressman who does a show on MSNBC came right out and said "I will admit that tonite, Kerry decisively won the debate."

Man..when fellow right wingers are dumping on ya, you know you gave a stinky performance!

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Bush got RAPED :P

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Centurion

An example of the new voter registration drive I talked about earlier:

COLUMBUS, Ohio - A sweeping voter registration campaign in heavily Democratic areas has added tens of thousands of new voters to the rolls in the swing states of Ohio and Florida, a surge that has far exceeded the efforts of Republicans in both states, a review of registration data shows.

The analysis by The New York Times of county-by-county data shows that in Democratic areas of Ohio - primarily low-income and minority neighborhoods - new registrations since January have risen 250 percent over the same period in 2000. In comparison, new registrations have increased just 25 percent in Republican areas. A similar pattern is apparent in Florida: in the strongest Democratic areas, the pace of new registration is 60 percent higher than in 2000, while it has risen just 12 percent in the heaviest Republican areas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/26/po...gn/26vote.html

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Centurion

One more article about the upswing in new voters:

AP) -- New voters are flooding local election offices with paperwork, registering in significantly higher numbers than four years ago as attention to the presidential election runs high and an array of activist groups recruit would-be voters who could prove critical come November 2.

Cleveland has seen nearly twice as many new voters register so far as compared with 2000; Philadelphia is having its biggest boom in new voters in 20 years; and counties are bringing in temporary workers and employees from other agencies to help process all the new registration forms.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...new.voters.ap/

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boobmaster

From their website

This is not a scientifically valid survey

boobmaster

There is a HUGE difference between getting them registered and keeping them off crack long enough to actually go to the polls.

Tom_PMs

No survey or poll is scientifically valid.

Face it, Kerry shined in this night. There's 2 more to go, and VP's go at it next week.

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Tom_PMs

Try making an actual argument

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titmowse

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Centurion

BoobMaster Posted:

"There is a HUGE difference between getting them registered and keeping them off crack long enough to actually go to the polls."

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Yes there is, but the point I'm trying to make here is that the many of them REGISTERED ON THEIR OWN! The fact that so many new voters have come forth voluntarily would SEEM to indicate that they plan on voting also.

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boobmaster = ass clown

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Who won the debate? * 590845 responses


Pres. Bush
30% Sen. Kerry
70%

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boobmaster

People cast their votes via their website, for crying out loud. I certainly wouldn't get all giddy over that.

Yes, Kerry looked very good, and Bush was, well, Bush. He is NOT the most gifted speaker, but there is one thing about him that draws voters: he speaks with great passion. I think you'll be surprised at the public reaction when the REAL polls come out.

SuckOnThis

From your head

This is not a scientifically thinking brain

boobmaster

We shall see. The democrats ALWAYS get bigger numbers than republicans in voter registration. However, regiastered republican voters are FAR MORE LIKELY to go to the polls than their democratic counterparts.

Centurion

Boobmaster posted:

Yes, Kerry looked very good, and Bush was, well, Bush. He is NOT the most gifted speaker, but there is one thing about him that draws voters: he speaks with great passion. I think you'll be surprised at the public reaction when the REAL polls come out.
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He DOES?

Hmm..well he obviously forgot to show up with his passion tonite!
He seemed almost ANNOYED that he was even there. I think he was upset because he was missing Nick At Nite!

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boobmaster

You saw a lack of passion because you DON'T LIKE HIM. It's amazing how blind people can be sometimes.

boobmaster

I copied that quote DIRECTLY from their website. That makes me an idiot? Whatever. I'm not taking the bait anymore. Sorry!

Centurion

Boobmaster posted:

You saw a lack of passion because you DON'T LIKE HIM. It's amazing how blind people can be sometimes.

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There is a REASON I don't like him and that's because his policies are terrible and are putting our country at greater peril!

But even withstanding that..my dislike of him didn't sway what was OBVIOUS (Even Lens just posted that Fox News said Kerry won the debate)..and that is that Kerry plastered Bush all over the wall tonite.

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boobmaster

OK! THIS QUOTE WAS ON THEIR FREAKING WEB SITE.

boobmaster

I don't think I'd use the word 'plastered'. He did win though. But so fucking what! Do you think one debate is going to have that much of an impact?

Rich

I knew Americans would see right through Bush's bullshit when they took the time to listen to it. That was the first time we got an unbiased view of Kerry and Bush at the same time and the people are speaking!

The only thing is, these numbers will probably change over the next couple days. You'll get people voting who didn't watch it, people who just got their impression from the pundits.

uno

Um ya, but who cares if its not scientific. Is anyone claiming this one poll is the be-all-end-all poll? No. It just temporarily shows what everyone who was watching already knows. Kerry cleaned the floor with Bush.

As far as passion from Bush, I saw some feigned pauses and emotion. None of which sounded real. Same with Kerry, tho not as much considering Kerry is pretty monotone.

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If its anything like some of the debates in past elections, yes. The most people watch the first debate.

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boobmaster

You really need to go look up the difference between a scientifically valid poll, conducted by professionals, and a completely unscientific web survey.

Centurion

Boobmaster wrote:
I don't think I'd use the word 'plastered'. He did win though. But so fucking what! Do you think one debate is going to have that much of an impact?
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Um..in a word.. YES!

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Bigjohn

WHAT!!!! Fucking Bush LIED!!!!
He said the american people had spoken and he was confident he would be re-elected!!!!

Okay, that's it.... no fruit cake for George this year

stocktrader23

Do you really need a scientific poll to tell you Bush got his ass handed to him?

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boobmaster

All Kerry did tonight was attack Bush, a strategy which can EASILY backfire. When it comes right down to it, people don't know any more about him than they did five minutes before the debate.