This 'flip-flop' shit got old.. Any other actual arguments against Kerry? - Page 5 - GoFuckYourself.com

uno · 09-28-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by kane
hum. . . in no specific order

1. oil
2. revenge
3. idealistic reform AKA more influnce for us in the area
4. to project a show of strength the to the world and remind people that were are THE superpower and not to be messed with.

I do belive that Bush actually thought that there were terrorist in Iraq and I think he belived (s) that he can send in our troops and instill a democracy in there. The Egyptian president told Bush not to attack because he didn't realize what he was getting us into. He said the people of IRaq would not stand for being occupied. Bush had a brilliant military plan that worked great. He just had a very poor plan for what to do afterward and now is paying the price.

People can skoff at the UN all day and say what they will but why is it, if they are so useless, that Bush was just up there last week asking for help. Isn't that a lot like burning down your own house and then asking all your neighbors to pitch in and help pay for you to rebuild it? We can't just ignore them until we want money. Either we are in or out but we can't have it both ways.

One thing I can't understand. If Bush is really serious about making America safe how is it that still over 14,000 illegal immigrents sneak into this country every day and how is it that a TV show can go to Malaysia ( a known terrorist hotbed ) and put nuclear material on a ship, have is shipped to Los Angeles and then drive it half way across the country without getting so much as questioned?

It seems to me that the 300+ billion we have spent on Iraq could have gone a long way to securing the homeland first.

We havent' spent 300+ billion on Iraq and I'd like a source on that story about sending nuclear material around the world and driving it across the US. Sounds interesting.

kane · 09-28-2004, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by uno
We havent' spent 300+ billion on Iraq and I'd like a source on that story about sending nuclear material around the world and driving it across the US. Sounds interesting.

yeah when I looked it has only been around 150 billion and growing. I wonder if that number includes everything meaning cost of rebuilding, cost of having our soldiers there etc.

the story about them shipping in nuclear material was on either 20/20 about 9 months ago. they got some old nuclear material that still put off a radioactive signal. Got an expert in the nuclear field to tell them how much to get so that it would be around the same amount as a nuclear bomb. Then they went to Malaysia and put it in a shipping crate inside a chest with a bunch of furniture. They were never questioned or even inspected in the loading area. The ship came into Los Angeles and was inspected and not caught. They then put the chest on a truck and drove it to chicago. Nobody ever looked twice at them. Only when they turnned over their tapes to the FBI did they come around and start asking questions. You could tell the FBI was pissed and probably pretty embarassed.

the amazing this is that they did it twice. Thy did it on the one year anniversary of 9/11 and then showed the FBI then did it a second time. Here's the story about it http://www.nrdc.org/nuclear/furanium.asp

the most telling quote in the story, to me, is "The fact that ABC News was able to smuggle in what could have been weapon-grade uranium a second time speaks volumes about the failure of the Bush administration to secure nuclear weapon materials," said Tom Cochran, the physicist who heads NRDC's Nuclear Program.

Mojiteaux · 09-28-2004, 01:43 AM

Any other actual arguments against Kerry?

He is intelligent

uno · 09-28-2004, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by Mojiteaux
Any other actual arguments against Kerry?

He is intelligent

It's because he's intelligent that he can't connect with the common man type. That is where W's cowboy act comes into play. He can really play it off like he's a regular guy when he was born and raised with a silver spoon, andover, yale, and harvard amongst other things. Kerry could never pull that off.

09-28-2004, 01:43 AM	#203
Mojiteaux Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 265	Any other actual arguments against Kerry? He is intelligent