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Old 09-21-2004, 03:35 PM   #1
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Who are the REAL terrorists?

COUNTRIES BOMBED BY THE UNITED STATES SINCE THE END OF WORLD WAR II

China 1945-46
Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-1961
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73 (Vietnam War)
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Iran 1987
Panama 1989
Kuwait 1991 (Iraqi Targets)
Iraq 1991-
Somalia 1993
Bosnia 1994, 1995 (Bosnian Serb Targets)
Sudan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-

The world knows who the real terrorists are...
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Old 09-21-2004, 03:37 PM   #2
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COUNTRIES BOMBED BY THE UNITED STATES SINCE THE END OF WORLD WAR II

China 1945-46
Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-1961
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73 (Vietnam War)
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Iran 1987
Panama 1989
Kuwait 1991 (Iraqi Targets)
Iraq 1991-
Somalia 1993
Bosnia 1994, 1995 (Bosnian Serb Targets)
Sudan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-

The world knows who the real terrorists are...
How many of those countries were bombed by the US after they were asked for help.
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Old 09-21-2004, 03:39 PM   #3
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yeah osama bin laden!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 KILL HIMMM~!~~~``111 DIEEEIEIEEIEIDDIEIEIEIDIDIEEIDIEIE!~!!!!1
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Joe Citizen; you suffer from OCD, I suggest seeking professional mental help.
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder can take many forms. Seek help before it overuns your life
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Old 09-21-2004, 03:51 PM   #6
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Who are the real terrorists?
95% of the countries on your list. It's a shame good people have to die to protect the likes of you.




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Old 09-21-2004, 03:53 PM   #7
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COUNTRIES BOMBED BY THE UNITED STATES SINCE THE END OF WORLD WAR II

China 1945-46
Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-1961
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73 (Vietnam War)
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Iran 1987
Panama 1989
Kuwait 1991 (Iraqi Targets)
Iraq 1991-
Somalia 1993
Bosnia 1994, 1995 (Bosnian Serb Targets)
Sudan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-

The world knows who the real terrorists are...
you, sir, are an idiot.
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Old 09-21-2004, 03:54 PM   #8
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interesting point of view

it really is...


I wish more people would respond that way than with their predictable emotional tirades...
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Old 09-21-2004, 05:04 PM   #9
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But you are forgeting that 'merican christian fundies believe that they have a god on their side, so they are the good guys.

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Old 09-21-2004, 05:20 PM   #10
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Oh Joe, you are to pathetic. I leave you with the following:

You mock what you don't understand.
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Old 09-21-2004, 05:33 PM   #11
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Oh Joe, you are to pathetic. I leave you with the following:

You mock what you don't understand.
Is that the best you've got?

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COUNTRIES BOMBED BY THE UNITED STATES SINCE THE END OF WORLD WAR II

China 1945-46
Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-1961
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73 (Vietnam War)
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Grenada 1983
Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Iran 1987
Panama 1989
Kuwait 1991 (Iraqi Targets)
Iraq 1991-
Somalia 1993
Bosnia 1994, 1995 (Bosnian Serb Targets)
Sudan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 1998, 2001-

The world knows who the real terrorists are...
I'm guessing you're a foreigner...and there is no way I'm going over World History to prove you are a fucking idiot, any educated person in here could dispute this ridiculous statement, lol, so I'm just going to the next thread.
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I'm guessing you're a foreigner...and there is no way I'm going over World History to prove you are a fucking idiot, any educated person in here could dispute this ridiculous statement, lol, so I'm just going to the next thread.
Translation: I'm an idiot and you are right.
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Translation: I'm an idiot and you are right.
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Is that the best you've got?

Joe you couldn't handle what I have. But hey jump if you dare to.
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I'm guessing you're a foreigner...and there is no way I'm going over World History to prove you are a fucking idiot, any educated person in here could dispute this ridiculous statement, lol, so I'm just going to the next thread.
So you're lazy and uneducated, yet feel you have the right to judge anyway? I would love to see you even try to dispute in an intellectual debate. Simply calling someone a 'fucking idiot' in threads like this only reveals your childish nature.
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Joe you couldn't handle what I have. But hey jump if you dare to.
Oh, I think I could handle a little pussy like you.
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So you're lazy and uneducated, yet feel you have the right to judge anyway? I would love to see you even try to dispute in an intellectual debate. Simply calling someone a 'fucking idiot' in threads like this only reveals your childish nature.
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jealous of my country because yours taxes you to DEATH , your healthcare is a joke, tell me fag how do you like those government appointed shitty doctors? fuck your taxes, gawd bless the USA
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LOL.....Come to San Diego Joe.

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jealous of my country because yours taxes you to DEATH , your healthcare is a joke, tell me fag how do you like those government appointed shitty doctors? fuck your taxes, gawd bless the USA
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That is the greatest crock of shit i've seen in awhile good job...
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That is the greatest crock of shit i've seen in awhile good job...
Didn't you know that Joe Citizen and shit are synonomous.
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I don't agree that all terrorists are Muslims.

Look at what happened in Ireland. How about Timothy McVeigh (sp?)? He was a terrorist in my mind.
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I don't agree that all terrorists are Muslims.

Look at what happened in Ireland. How about Timothy McVeigh (sp?)? He was a terrorist in my mind.
Man, you got to admit the ratios pretty fucked up for Muslims though, lol.. Look at the last times the U.S. has attacked Muslim nations, if you are blind you will say it was for oil, but if you actually know whats going on, you would know we have had to protect muslims from killing muslims quite frequently the past 15 years... All they know is murder, maybe if they get a chance to vote they'll pick up a better hobby than blowing up children and slowly beheading live human beings
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Let's all have a look at some definitions of the word terrorism and then take another look at the list above shall we?

- As defined by the FBI, "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives". This definition includes three elements: (1) Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of force. (2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce. (3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives.

- (From Latin terror: "to frighten.") The sustained clandestine use of violence for a political purpose.

- use of terror, especially the systematic use of terror by the government or other authority against particular persons or groups; a method of opposing a government internally or externally through the use of terror

- Any act including, but not limited to, the use of force or violence and/or threat thereof of any person or group(s) of persons whether acting alone or on behalf of, or in connection with, any organisation(s) or government(s) committed for political, religions, ideological or similar purposes, including the intention to influence any government and/or to put the public or any section of the public in fear.

- Use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.

- Any act of resistance by the Palestinians

Nicaragua in particular was exclusivly the work of terrorism by the US during their 'contra' war. This cannot be denied.

We could debate every individual case... and I don't think every country on that list applies, and it's not the best way to show how the US has acted as a terrorist state in the past, but the gist of what he was trying to say comes through, so how about a little more rational thought and less slander and aggression?
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Man, you got to admit the ratios pretty fucked up for Muslims though, lol.. Look at the last times the U.S. has attacked Muslim nations, if you are blind you will say it was for oil, but if you actually know whats going on, you would know we have had to protect muslims from killing muslims quite frequently the past 15 years... All they know is murder, maybe if they get a chance to vote they'll pick up a better hobby than blowing up children and slowly beheading live human beings
Do you actually know any muslims?
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so how about a little more rational thought and less slander and aggression?
as i was told earlier.

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Man, you got to admit the ratios pretty fucked up for Muslims though, lol.. Look at the last times the U.S. has attacked Muslim nations, if you are blind you will say it was for oil, but if you actually know whats going on, you would know we have had to protect muslims from killing muslims quite frequently the past 15 years... All they know is murder, maybe if they get a chance to vote they'll pick up a better hobby than blowing up children and slowly beheading live human beings
So umm.... 1.2 Billion people only know murder and their favorite hobby is blowing up children? This is what you believe?
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Do you actually know any muslims?
Yea and every single one of them justifies blowing up children with "Palestinians need a new state."

Their Koran tells them to hate the Jew, and take over the land....

So yes, I know Muslims... the ones in America are the ONLY moderate ones
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Let's all have a look at some definitions of the word terrorism and then take another look at the list above shall we?

- As defined by the FBI, "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives". This definition includes three elements: (1) Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of force. (2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce. (3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives.

- (From Latin terror: "to frighten.") The sustained clandestine use of violence for a political purpose.

- use of terror, especially the systematic use of terror by the government or other authority against particular persons or groups; a method of opposing a government internally or externally through the use of terror

- Any act including, but not limited to, the use of force or violence and/or threat thereof of any person or group(s) of persons whether acting alone or on behalf of, or in connection with, any organisation(s) or government(s) committed for political, religions, ideological or similar purposes, including the intention to influence any government and/or to put the public or any section of the public in fear.

- Use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.

- Any act of resistance by the Palestinians

Nicaragua in particular was exclusivly the work of terrorism by the US during their 'contra' war. This cannot be denied.

We could debate every individual case... and I don't think every country on that list applies, and it's not the best way to show how the US has acted as a terrorist state in the past, but the gist of what he was trying to say comes through, so how about a little more rational thought and less slander and aggression?
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jealous of my country because yours taxes you to DEATH , your healthcare is a joke, tell me fag how do you like those government appointed shitty doctors? fuck your taxes, gawd bless the USA
Fuck man, how old are ya....12? Another fine example of the wonderful Texas educational system. I bet you have never stepped foot outside of that shithole you call Texas.
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Yea and every single one of them justifies blowing up children with "Palestinians need a new state."

Their Koran tells them to hate the Jew, and take over the land....

So yes, I know Muslims... the ones in America are the ONLY moderate ones
If you were Palestinian, how do you think you would feel?

Sad others share your ignorant and intolerant opinions.

Anyway, this thread is not about Muslims... this thread is about the US acting as a terror state throughout it's history.
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Thanks boob, I'm exhausted, and I'm done with Joe Citizen.. He makes Democrats look really really bad with his Tin-Foil-Hat theories...
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If you were Palestinian, how do you think you would feel?

Sad others share your ignorant and intolerant opinions.

Anyway, this thread is not about Muslims... this thread is about the US acting as a terror state throughout it's history.
If I were Palestinian, of course I would align myself with the terrorists, they promise you 72 virgins in heaven after you kill Israeli children!!! How could you refuse such an enticing offer?!?
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COUNTRIES BOMBED BY THE UNITED STATES SINCE THE END OF WORLD WAR II

China 1945-46
Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-1961
Guatemala 1960
Congo 1964
Peru 1965
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Vietnam 1961-73 (Vietnam War)
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Grenada 1983
Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1980s
Nicaragua 1980s
Iran 1987
Panama 1989
Kuwait 1991 (Iraqi Targets)
Iraq 1991-
Somalia 1993
Bosnia 1994, 1995 (Bosnian Serb Targets)
Sudan 1998
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The world knows who the real terrorists are...
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If I were Palestinian, of course I would align myself with the terrorists, they promise you 72 virgins in heaven after you kill Israeli children!!! How could you refuse such an enticing offer?!?
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Um, okay.
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Another America-hating assfuck who bitches about this country but has no fucking problem taking advantage of all it has to offer. You should be stripped of your citizenship and deported, fucktard.
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Um, okay.
Palestinians... Muslims, aka animals
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Thanks boob, I'm exhausted, and I'm done with Joe Citizen.. He makes Democrats look really really bad with his Tin-Foil-Hat theories...
No, he thrives on shining light on the hypocrisy of ignorant rednecks such as yourself, then basks at the dumbfounded look on your face.
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No, he thrives on shining light on the hypocrisy of ignorant rednecks such as yourself, then basks at the dumbfounded look on your face.
I'm not a redneck and I think the same way so do yourself a favor and STFU
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Another worthwhile debate sidelined by crowkid's spiteful giberish.
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No, he thrives on shining light on the hypocrisy of ignorant rednecks such as yourself, then basks at the dumbfounded look on your face.
Rednecks will get up and vote on election day, antiwar-hippie-terrorist-appeasers will sleep in

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