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Old 07-26-2003, 11:13 AM   #1
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adult biz is dying

so make sure you have a mainstream backup, I do.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:14 AM   #2
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:15 AM   #3
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porn has been in existence since the beginning of time, i doubt they can kill it now
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:16 AM   #4
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Not dying, just changing......as it always has...
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:17 AM   #5
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its changing ill give you that, however thats good, new opurtunities are rising constantly for people ot make their fortunes.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:18 AM   #6
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the sky is falling, the sky is falling
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:19 AM   #7
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the death of GloBill doesnt mean the death of the adult bizz, it's more on how you cope to the occassion and how far you are willing to go
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:19 AM   #8
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:21 AM   #9
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Evolving and dying are two entirely different things.. If you aren't willing to adapt, then you WILL die off.. Natural selection.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:25 AM   #10
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so make sure you have a mainstream backup, I do.
sex sells. get out if you cant adapt.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:36 AM   #11
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I have other interests on the mainstream and casino side of things, but if I was all porn I wouldn't be freaking out just yet. Adult is a huge business online, and a huge reason why the internet was built so fast. It's not going anywhere, too many other companies rely on us, even if they don't like to admit it. Do you really think everyone would be shelling out for broadband if dad wasn't a member of quiet's site and downloading videos every night? Do you think companies like real player would be where they are today? What about Level3, Verio and those companies, what % of the bandwidth they sell is burned by porn movies? Sure sites like yahoo suck the most bandwidth, but for every one of them there's 2000 TGP's and 10 million galleries.

Even if visa and MC shut us off, who fucking cares? Not me, I know we can and will live without them, and I'm starting to think we'll be better off. There are other ways of paying, my casinos don't rely on cc's at all, I can turn them off as an option and be making the exact same amount of money, I've been testing. They're the last option on my banking pages, because giving them business is starting to make me more and more sick every day. We should all stop taking visa and master card for 6 months, and see how fast their rules change. They'd have reps contacting the big companies trying to get our business back in no time, making all kinds of changes and kissing our asses. If we were smart the casino and adult industries would put our resources together and develop our own international payment system, even prefunded cards or something that you can buy all over the place like phone cards. Too bad everyone in the two industries hates the other, besides me.

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Old 07-26-2003, 11:40 AM   #12
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Something like prepaidatm.com only with physical cards and a good way of distributing them.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:42 AM   #13
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:43 AM   #14
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:55 AM   #15
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Old 07-26-2003, 12:00 PM   #16
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Even if visa and MC shut us off, who fucking cares? Not me, I know we can and will live without them, and I'm starting to think we'll be better off. There are other ways of paying, my casinos don't rely on cc's at all, I can turn them off as an option and be making the exact same amount of money, I've been testing. They're the last option on my banking pages, because giving them business is starting to make me more and more sick every day. We should all stop taking visa and master card for 6 months, and see how fast their rules change. They'd have reps contacting the big companies trying to get our business back in no time, making all kinds of changes and kissing our asses. If we were smart the casino and adult industries would put our resources together and develop our own international payment system, even prefunded cards or something that you can buy all over the place like phone cards. Too bad everyone in the two industries hates the other, besides me.



but just 1 question, cannot the casino payment systems be used also for adult ?
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Old 07-26-2003, 12:12 PM   #17
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the death of GloBill doesnt mean the death of the adult bizz, it's more on how you cope to the occassion and how far you are willing to go
and maybe how much foresight and preperation you had for it? some people blow all thier cash, others put it in the bank. not to say that looseing what some did with the globill bullshit wouldnt hurt.
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Old 07-26-2003, 12:20 PM   #18
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Old 07-26-2003, 01:24 PM   #19
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dying, I don't think so, it's multiplying, let's take this fucker mainstream my fellow webmasters.
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Old 07-26-2003, 01:50 PM   #20
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dying, I don't think so, it's multiplying, let's take this fucker mainstream my fellow webmasters.
no, fuck the mainstream, we make money because we're taboo......
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Old 07-26-2003, 02:14 PM   #21
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Old 07-26-2003, 04:47 PM   #24
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Old 07-26-2003, 05:42 PM   #26
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I'm glad to hear so many people wanting to stay with porn.
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Old 07-26-2003, 06:09 PM   #29
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Yep, I guess I used the wrong word.

It's "evolving".

But still, I would suggest you to have a backup mainstream site. Just because the strangest things happen these days.
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Old 07-26-2003, 06:12 PM   #30
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I don't think that anyone can argue that there will be less adult webmasters than there were last year or this year.

I think there will always be some people who want to make money in the adult online biz.

It will always have the allure of making lots of money and getting freedom.

But right now, we are in a downsizing.
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I have other interests on the mainstream and casino side of things, but if I was all porn I wouldn't be freaking out just yet. Adult is a huge business online, and a huge reason why the internet was built so fast. It's not going anywhere, too many other companies rely on us, even if they don't like to admit it. Do you really think everyone would be shelling out for broadband if dad wasn't a member of quiet's site and downloading videos every night? Do you think companies like real player would be where they are today? What about Level3, Verio and those companies, what % of the bandwidth they sell is burned by porn movies? Sure sites like yahoo suck the most bandwidth, but for every one of them there's 2000 TGP's and 10 million galleries.

Even if visa and MC shut us off, who fucking cares? Not me, I know we can and will live without them, and I'm starting to think we'll be better off. There are other ways of paying, my casinos don't rely on cc's at all, I can turn them off as an option and be making the exact same amount of money, I've been testing. They're the last option on my banking pages, because giving them business is starting to make me more and more sick every day. We should all stop taking visa and master card for 6 months, and see how fast their rules change. They'd have reps contacting the big companies trying to get our business back in no time, making all kinds of changes and kissing our asses. If we were smart the casino and adult industries would put our resources together and develop our own international payment system, even prefunded cards or something that you can buy all over the place like phone cards. Too bad everyone in the two industries hates the other, besides me.
i'm not sure if visa and mastercard would really care.

but yes if adult companies looked to casinos and created a good payment system then things might be much better.
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they had photographs and movies back then?
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You happy with the pres now?

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Porns been "dying" for the past hundred years...

Its not dying just changing like always.
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No, I really feel sorry for you guys.



But I was just pointing out the fact that COPA was introduced when Bill Clinton was in the office.

Someone has just opened a pandora box. *WE* as an industry, should start to auto-regulate it ourselves because they are coming for us.

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