adult biz is dying
 

so make sure you have a mainstream backup, I do.

bullshyte

porn has been in existence since the beginning of time, i doubt they can kill it now :(

Not dying, just changing......as it always has...

its changing ill give you that, however thats good, new opurtunities are rising constantly for people ot make their fortunes.

the sky is falling, the sky is falling

the death of GloBill doesnt mean the death of the adult bizz, it's more on how you cope to the occassion and how far you are willing to go :thumbsup

Its noy dying, just modifying. Im doing better than ever, Sold 40 exclusives in last 45 days.

Evolving and dying are two entirely different things.. If you aren't willing to adapt, then you WILL die off.. Natural selection.

sex sells. get out if you cant adapt.

I have other interests on the mainstream and casino side of things, but if I was all porn I wouldn't be freaking out just yet. Adult is a huge business online, and a huge reason why the internet was built so fast. It's not going anywhere, too many other companies rely on us, even if they don't like to admit it. Do you really think everyone would be shelling out for broadband if dad wasn't a member of quiet's site and downloading videos every night? Do you think companies like real player would be where they are today? What about Level3, Verio and those companies, what % of the bandwidth they sell is burned by porn movies? Sure sites like yahoo suck the most bandwidth, but for every one of them there's 2000 TGP's and 10 million galleries.

Even if visa and MC shut us off, who fucking cares? Not me, I know we can and will live without them, and I'm starting to think we'll be better off. There are other ways of paying, my casinos don't rely on cc's at all, I can turn them off as an option and be making the exact same amount of money, I've been testing. They're the last option on my banking pages, because giving them business is starting to make me more and more sick every day. We should all stop taking visa and master card for 6 months, and see how fast their rules change. They'd have reps contacting the big companies trying to get our business back in no time, making all kinds of changes and kissing our asses. If we were smart the casino and adult industries would put our resources together and develop our own international payment system, even prefunded cards or something that you can buy all over the place like phone cards. Too bad everyone in the two industries hates the other, besides me.

Something like prepaidatm.com only with physical cards and a good way of distributing them.

adult biz will never die you just got to go with the flow

change <> death unless you refuse to or haven't the ability to adapt.

Rich, about this casino biz, can You please knock in my ICQ - 43432801 ?

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but just 1 question, cannot the casino payment systems be used also for adult ?

and maybe how much foresight and preperation you had for it? some people blow all thier cash, others put it in the bank. not to say that looseing what some did with the globill bullshit wouldnt hurt.

no it snot.

dying, I don't think so, it's multiplying, let's take this fucker mainstream my fellow webmasters.

no, fuck the mainstream, we make money because we're taboo......

I don't see rubbing one out going out of style any time soon......

Are you sure you are not confusing evolution with extinction?

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Exactly
:thumbsup

Only the strong survive.

I'm glad to hear so many people wanting to stay with porn.
Less competition !

Well said :thumbsup

We need another democrat in the office



This is my first post.

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Yep, I guess I used the wrong word.

It's "evolving".

But still, I would suggest you to have a backup mainstream site. Just because the strangest things happen these days. :)

I don't think that anyone can argue that there will be less adult webmasters than there were last year or this year.

I think there will always be some people who want to make money in the adult online biz.

It will always have the allure of making lots of money and getting freedom.

But right now, we are in a downsizing.

i'm not sure if visa and mastercard would really care.

but yes if adult companies looked to casinos and created a good payment system then things might be much better.

Anyone want out, let me know, maybe I'll buy you out :)

Things are not desperate, they're just in a state of flux.

Not a bad thing for some

wow, I remember this

This is my 20th year in adult entertainment. People have been saying its a dying business every year for the past two decades.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

are you sure ur not dying?

I know I have also.... :thumbsup

lol :glugglug

It's not dying, it will always be alive as long as we are here.

:1orglaugh Why? You want another COPA law?

they had photographs and movies back then? :winkwink:

this thread is old :warning

You happy with the pres now?

Being you are in Canada..

there was porn before there was film

:1orglaugh no kidding

so do I, I already am seeing results. I like the future:)

Porns been "dying" for the past hundred years...

Its not dying just changing like always.

No, I really feel sorry for you guys.

:1orglaugh

But I was just pointing out the fact that COPA was introduced when Bill Clinton was in the office.

Someone has just opened a pandora box. *WE* as an industry, should start to auto-regulate it ourselves because they are coming for us.

:glugglug

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Adult IS changing, and our businesses are NOT safe -- unless we keep doing what we have always done, INVENTING the future of the Internet.

For being easy targets and vulnerable to the whims of the moral establishment, we have had to become stronger, faster and smarter than the mainstream. I, for one, am PROUD to work in adult.

A tip of the hat to all of you who have helped preserve one of the best ways to make a living in history!

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