CCBill or iBill? What should I use? - GoFuckYourself.com

Decadawn · 09-16-2004, 07:12 PM

Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!

Rochard · 09-16-2004, 07:19 PM

Depends on if your looking for long term (CCBill) or crappy service (IBill).

Choice is yours.

tony286 · 09-16-2004, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
Depends on if your looking for long term (CCBill) or crappy service (IBill).

Choice is yours.

Thats not true at all , ibill rocks , they were the only ones during the Master card changes to do web boardcast explaining it and answering webmaster questions. Any problem I had they took care of quickly. They are very professional and thats the type of people I want watching over my money.

Axzar · 09-16-2004, 07:31 PM

Why wouldn't you use both?

OY · 09-16-2004, 07:35 PM

Use both, and then add a third to back the two up!

PS. MPA3

Decadawn · 09-16-2004, 07:40 PM

What's the point of using 2? they do the same work.. only splits up the pay in two .. right?

OY · 09-16-2004, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Decadawn
What's the point of using 2? they do the same work.. only splits up the pay in two .. right?

Not right. One scrub different than the other to protect its own merchant account - this leaves you, the program owner, with at least 20% less signups compared to using an additional two backup processors.

This is a proven method over years of experience with A LOT of programs doing it this way. Its called to cascade your processors.

Decadawn · 09-16-2004, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
Not right. One scrub different than the other to protect its own merchant account - this leaves you, the program owner, with at least 20% less signups compared to using an additional two backup processors.

This is a proven method over years of experience with A LOT of programs doing it this way. Its called to cascade your processors.

Thanks for the infos ;)

Can't stop learning..!

09-16-2004, 08:02 PM

Listen to Oystein. Cascade those bitches and see your sales increase. If it's a 1 or the other thing, go with CCBill. I'm a fan of almost real time stats and their support is awesome.

imageman · 09-16-2004, 09:01 PM

Use CCbill and back up with Epoch dont touch Ibill

.

xxxoutsourcing · 09-16-2004, 09:06 PM

Yea - use both, we use ccbill as main processor and ibill or sometimes verotel as back up.
Works out ok for us.

NaughtyAlysha · 09-16-2004, 09:08 PM

CCBill, no comparison.

KGucci · 09-17-2004, 06:07 AM

Decadawn ~ Check out this thread and the offer that is running thru the end of Sept.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=356561

Hit me up on ICQ if you want to talk about it 234-382-798

Tipsy · 09-17-2004, 06:12 AM

It's been said - use 2. Crazy not to. Apart from the scrubbing which as oystein says will lose you at least 20% (often a lot more) if you only use one, you then also have a backup in case one goes down (or godforbid even goes under - stranger things have happened).

I voted though and will only say that had you asked me 12 months+ ago my vote would have ben completely different.

andrej_NDC · 09-17-2004, 06:22 AM

CCBILL - EPOCH/PAYCOM
dont touch ibill

sybianguru · 09-17-2004, 07:24 AM

I would use iBill as a primary and CCBill as a back-up. Many of the people who talk negatively about iBill haven't had experience with them recently.
Better approvals, better reporting, better service!!

test44 · 09-17-2004, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Decadawn
Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!

Decadawn,

As some of the other guys recommended, go with both. ccbill is a good company and so is iBill. Don't take my word for it though.

Check out these threads on iBill's conversions compared to other billers:

"i bill rocks! ibill/paycom/ccbill is the best order. In nats i use i bill 85% of the time primary. Epoch picks up alot of my sales though. ccbill is good too, but hands down, you will do the most tranactions with i bill"

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=346024&s=

---

"And, this whole time, no matter what order I tried to send signups to these processors, they were always made aware of the multiple billing solutions for my site. And it didn't really matter which company I was favoring at all, HANDS DOWN, NO QUESTION - I GOT MORE SIGNUPS WITH IBILL PERIOD. "

----
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=342789

Adam
[email protected]

Mr. Mike · 09-17-2004, 08:42 AM

Play your cards right and use both, CCBILL as primary.

Miguel · 09-17-2004, 09:32 AM

I think that it depends on what region you work with. Ibill/CCBill/Epoch have different acceptance of Visa and Master Card for different regions (US, Europe, Asia). So try all of them and decide which will be primary and which to use for back up.

We use Ibill, going to add Epoch as back up.

SeanE · 09-17-2004, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Decadawn
Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!

Feel free to contact me with any specific questions you may have about CCBill... I will be happy to walk you through our system.

Contact info listed below..

p.s. Thanks guys for the positive comments

gothoes · 09-17-2004, 10:47 AM

has anybody heard of a company out of canada called nexus?

Ty W · 09-17-2004, 04:40 PM

Hey Decadawn,

You should also consider eCommerceGlobal.com as a backup.

* Fast Setup and Low Rates
* Live Client Support and Live Support for your Customers
* Real-Time Reports on Transactions
* Settlement by Wire Transfers / Direct Deposit
* One-Time & Recurring Transactions
* Professional front and back-end Interface
* Fraud Scrubbing & Complete Transaction Reports
* Free technical support
* Affiliate Tracking Program
* Customized Join Pages
* Customized Emails
* Cascade Billing
* Password - Membership Management
* Discreet Billing Descriptor
* Offshore processing, with sales / support office in Seattle, WA.

TO LEARN MORE AND GET STARTED:
http://www.eCommerceGlobal.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=5

Feel free to contact me if I can be of any further assistance,

Ty Wilson
206-424-9134
www.eCommerceGlobal.com
[email protected]
ICQ # 209963807

zazzouche · 09-17-2004, 04:51 PM

I would tell you to go with both ibil and ccbill , I work with both and yes all companies pass though hard times but they both have a very solid team. Try them and then you can decide which company will be your primary and which one your secondary. You can always alternate just check out their reporting system and their customer support.

Good Luck!

Pornkings · 09-17-2004, 05:25 PM

It depends on many things try them both out or cascade.

Figure out what time of the month they scrub harder so you know which one to use as your primary processor.

Your options are pretty limited so it shouldn?t be difficult

Our Primary is Paycom secondary CCbill as of right now

Goodluck

Major (Tom) · 09-17-2004, 05:34 PM

You will do the most transactions with I Bill hands down. The rebills are better too. They scrub the least and thats fact.
Chargebacks and refunds are a bit higher but definatley not an issue. In any case you need at least 2 billers anyway. But I use I bill primary 95% of the time

My I Bill rep is Kristi, she is awesome. I find that i bill support is the best and I can contact her whenever i need something done and either she takes care of it or gets someone who can take care of it on the phone with me within minutes. Hit her up.

234382798
Cheers
Duke

BigWebRev · 09-17-2004, 05:36 PM

Paycom works well.

Lace · 09-17-2004, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigWebRev
Paycom works well.

MikeVega · 09-17-2004, 05:38 PM

I use both...and CCBill is just Easier ....i like it better...

wimpy · 09-17-2004, 10:20 PM

Don't go with Epoch unless you read their holdback clause really really carefully. They hold more than anyone else and keep it until 3 years after your last transaction. They might as well just say "we keep your money until you're long dead."

pornguy · 09-17-2004, 10:23 PM

Years ago, we tired to set up accounts with Ibill. After a week of chasing them, we called ccbill. 24 hours later we were up an running.

About a year later, tired Ibill as a back up. one week later of chasing them, we gave up and used someone else.

But that is just one case. A lot of people say that they are very good.

Just never worked for me.

Bigjohn · 09-18-2004, 12:27 AM

I've been using CCBill for years... never a problem getting a hold of them and always a paycheck on time

kater · 09-18-2004, 03:16 PM

or a 4th...

http://www.eCommerceGlobal.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=15

james_clickmemedia · 09-18-2004, 07:24 PM

CCbill over Ibill.. Until Ibill proves themselves again.

09-16-2004, 07:12 PM	#1
Decadawn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,286	CCBill or iBill? What should I use? Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!

09-16-2004, 07:19 PM	#2
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 75,074	Depends on if your looking for long term (CCBill) or crappy service (IBill). Choice is yours. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders

09-16-2004, 07:35 PM	#5
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Use both, and then add a third to back the two up! PS. MPA3 __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

09-16-2004, 09:06 PM	#11
xxxoutsourcing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,888	Yea - use both, we use ccbill as main processor and ibill or sometimes verotel as back up. Works out ok for us. __________________ xxxoutsourcing.com ICQ:119936 \| Aim:xxxoutsourcing \| MSN:msn@ xxxoutsourcing.com \| Yahoo:xxxoutsourcing Submitters, Designers, Programmers, Cartoonist, Creative Writers, Video & Photo Editors Convert your Paysite into a cartoon site convert2toons.com

09-16-2004, 09:08 PM	#12
NaughtyAlysha Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 1,843	CCBill, no comparison. __________________ ExtremeBank.com, the EXTREME program for NaughtyAlysha.com.

View Poll Results: CCBill or iBill
CCBill	35	64.81%
iBill	19	35.19%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

09-16-2004, 07:31 PM	#4
Axzar Random Jackass Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,837	Why wouldn't you use both?

09-16-2004, 07:40 PM	#6
Decadawn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,286	What's the point of using 2? they do the same work.. only splits up the pay in two .. right?

09-16-2004, 08:02 PM	#9
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Listen to Oystein. Cascade those bitches and see your sales increase. If it's a 1 or the other thing, go with CCBill. I'm a fan of almost real time stats and their support is awesome.

09-16-2004, 09:01 PM	#10
imageman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,938	Use CCbill and back up with Epoch dont touch Ibill .

09-17-2004, 06:07 AM	#13
KGucci Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoFla Posts: 653	Decadawn ~ Check out this thread and the offer that is running thru the end of Sept. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=356561 Hit me up on ICQ if you want to talk about it 234-382-798

09-17-2004, 06:12 AM	#14
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	It's been said - use 2. Crazy not to. Apart from the scrubbing which as oystein says will lose you at least 20% (often a lot more) if you only use one, you then also have a backup in case one goes down (or godforbid even goes under - stranger things have happened). I voted though and will only say that had you asked me 12 months+ ago my vote would have ben completely different. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

09-17-2004, 06:22 AM	#15
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	CCBILL - EPOCH/PAYCOM dont touch ibill

09-17-2004, 07:24 AM	#16
sybianguru Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 53	I would use iBill as a primary and CCBill as a back-up. Many of the people who talk negatively about iBill haven't had experience with them recently. Better approvals, better reporting, better service!! __________________ as funky as I wanna be

09-17-2004, 08:42 AM	#18
Mr. Mike Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 913	Play your cards right and use both, CCBILL as primary. __________________ Sig for sale. ICQ: 163-545-054

09-17-2004, 09:32 AM	#19
Miguel Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Serious-Cash.com Posts: 2,978	I think that it depends on what region you work with. Ibill/CCBill/Epoch have different acceptance of Visa and Master Card for different regions (US, Europe, Asia). So try all of them and decide which will be primary and which to use for back up. We use Ibill, going to add Epoch as back up. __________________ Serious Cash: 27 niche sites - step fantasy, teen, amateur, anal, hardcore, reality [Kinky Family] [Brutal X] [Fucking Glasses] [18 Videoz] [Teeny Lovers] [Sell Your Gf] [Dirty Flix] and others great sites...

09-17-2004, 10:47 AM	#21
gothoes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Durty Durty Posts: 131	has anybody heard of a company out of canada called nexus? __________________ ICQ 434221575

09-17-2004, 04:40 PM	#22
Ty W Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 47	Hey Decadawn, You should also consider eCommerceGlobal.com as a backup. * Fast Setup and Low Rates * Live Client Support and Live Support for your Customers * Real-Time Reports on Transactions * Settlement by Wire Transfers / Direct Deposit * One-Time & Recurring Transactions * Professional front and back-end Interface * Fraud Scrubbing & Complete Transaction Reports * Free technical support * Affiliate Tracking Program * Customized Join Pages * Customized Emails * Cascade Billing * Password - Membership Management * Discreet Billing Descriptor * Offshore processing, with sales / support office in Seattle, WA. TO LEARN MORE AND GET STARTED: http://www.eCommerceGlobal.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=5 Feel free to contact me if I can be of any further assistance, Ty Wilson 206-424-9134 www.eCommerceGlobal.com [email protected] ICQ # 209963807 __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

09-17-2004, 04:51 PM	#23
zazzouche Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 113	I would tell you to go with both ibil and ccbill , I work with both and yes all companies pass though hard times but they both have a very solid team. Try them and then you can decide which company will be your primary and which one your secondary. You can always alternate just check out their reporting system and their customer support. Good Luck!

09-17-2004, 05:25 PM	#24
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	It depends on many things try them both out or cascade. Figure out what time of the month they scrub harder so you know which one to use as your primary processor. Your options are pretty limited so it shouldn?t be difficult Our Primary is Paycom secondary CCbill as of right now Goodluck __________________ Pornkings.com

09-17-2004, 05:34 PM	#25
Major (Tom) White Pride Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 32,081	You will do the most transactions with I Bill hands down. The rebills are better too. They scrub the least and thats fact. Chargebacks and refunds are a bit higher but definatley not an issue. In any case you need at least 2 billers anyway. But I use I bill primary 95% of the time My I Bill rep is Kristi, she is awesome. I find that i bill support is the best and I can contact her whenever i need something done and either she takes care of it or gets someone who can take care of it on the phone with me within minutes. Hit her up. 234382798 Cheers Duke __________________ WHITE LIVES MATTER

09-17-2004, 05:36 PM	#26
BigWebRev Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: L A Posts: 1,631	Paycom works well.

09-17-2004, 05:38 PM	#28
MikeVega Porntrepreneur Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York Posts: 12,788	I use both...and CCBill is just Easier ....i like it better... __________________ Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

09-17-2004, 10:20 PM	#29
wimpy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 607	Don't go with Epoch unless you read their holdback clause really really carefully. They hold more than anyone else and keep it until 3 years after your last transaction. They might as well just say "we keep your money until you're long dead."

09-17-2004, 10:23 PM	#30
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Years ago, we tired to set up accounts with Ibill. After a week of chasing them, we called ccbill. 24 hours later we were up an running. About a year later, tired Ibill as a back up. one week later of chasing them, we gave up and used someone else. But that is just one case. A lot of people say that they are very good. Just never worked for me. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

09-18-2004, 12:27 AM	#31
Bigjohn Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Deep inside my mind Posts: 1,118	I've been using CCBill for years... never a problem getting a hold of them and always a paycheck on time

09-18-2004, 03:16 PM	#32
kater Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7	or a 4th... http://www.eCommerceGlobal.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=15

09-18-2004, 07:24 PM	#33
james_clickmemedia Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas / London Posts: 2,204	CCbill over Ibill.. Until Ibill proves themselves again. __________________ $ CLICKMEMEDIA.COM $ CONVERTING ETHNIC TRAFFIC SINCE 1998 ~ $30+PPS BLACK-X.COM - NEW BLACK EX-GF SITE CLICKMEMEDIA.COM ~ ICQ - 8788771