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Decadawn 09-16-2004 07:12 PM

CCBill or iBill? What should I use?
 
Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!

Rochard 09-16-2004 07:19 PM

Depends on if your looking for long term (CCBill) or crappy service (IBill).

Choice is yours.

tony286 09-16-2004 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
Depends on if your looking for long term (CCBill) or crappy service (IBill).

Choice is yours.

Thats not true at all , ibill rocks , they were the only ones during the Master card changes to do web boardcast explaining it and answering webmaster questions. Any problem I had they took care of quickly. They are very professional and thats the type of people I want watching over my money.

Axzar 09-16-2004 07:31 PM

Why wouldn't you use both?

OY 09-16-2004 07:35 PM

Use both, and then add a third to back the two up!

PS. MPA3

Decadawn 09-16-2004 07:40 PM

What's the point of using 2? they do the same work.. only splits up the pay in two .. right?

OY 09-16-2004 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Decadawn
What's the point of using 2? they do the same work.. only splits up the pay in two .. right?
Not right. One scrub different than the other to protect its own merchant account - this leaves you, the program owner, with at least 20% less signups compared to using an additional two backup processors.

This is a proven method over years of experience with A LOT of programs doing it this way. Its called to cascade your processors.

:2 cents:

Decadawn 09-16-2004 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
Not right. One scrub different than the other to protect its own merchant account - this leaves you, the program owner, with at least 20% less signups compared to using an additional two backup processors.

This is a proven method over years of experience with A LOT of programs doing it this way. Its called to cascade your processors.

:2 cents:

Thanks for the infos ;)

Can't stop learning..!

shermo 09-16-2004 08:02 PM

Listen to Oystein. Cascade those bitches and see your sales increase. If it's a 1 or the other thing, go with CCBill. I'm a fan of almost real time stats and their support is awesome. :thumbsup

imageman 09-16-2004 09:01 PM

Use CCbill and back up with Epoch dont touch Ibill




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xxxoutsourcing 09-16-2004 09:06 PM

Yea - use both, we use ccbill as main processor and ibill or sometimes verotel as back up.
Works out ok for us.

NaughtyAlysha 09-16-2004 09:08 PM

CCBill, no comparison.

KGucci 09-17-2004 06:07 AM

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Tipsy 09-17-2004 06:12 AM

It's been said - use 2. Crazy not to. Apart from the scrubbing which as oystein says will lose you at least 20% (often a lot more) if you only use one, you then also have a backup in case one goes down (or godforbid even goes under - stranger things have happened).

I voted though and will only say that had you asked me 12 months+ ago my vote would have ben completely different. :glugglug

andrej_NDC 09-17-2004 06:22 AM

CCBILL - EPOCH/PAYCOM
dont touch ibill

sybianguru 09-17-2004 07:24 AM

I would use iBill as a primary and CCBill as a back-up. Many of the people who talk negatively about iBill haven't had experience with them recently.
Better approvals, better reporting, better service!!

test44 09-17-2004 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Decadawn
Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!
Decadawn,

As some of the other guys recommended, go with both. ccbill is a good company and so is iBill. Don't take my word for it though.

Check out these threads on iBill's conversions compared to other billers:

"i bill rocks! ibill/paycom/ccbill is the best order. In nats i use i bill 85% of the time primary. Epoch picks up alot of my sales though. ccbill is good too, but hands down, you will do the most tranactions with i bill"

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=346024&s=

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"And, this whole time, no matter what order I tried to send signups to these processors, they were always made aware of the multiple billing solutions for my site. And it didn't really matter which company I was favoring at all, HANDS DOWN, NO QUESTION - I GOT MORE SIGNUPS WITH IBILL PERIOD. "

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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=342789

Adam
[email protected]

Mr. Mike 09-17-2004 08:42 AM

Play your cards right and use both, CCBILL as primary.

Miguel 09-17-2004 09:32 AM

I think that it depends on what region you work with. Ibill/CCBill/Epoch have different acceptance of Visa and Master Card for different regions (US, Europe, Asia). So try all of them and decide which will be primary and which to use for back up.

We use Ibill, going to add Epoch as back up.

SeanE 09-17-2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Decadawn
Help me.. I'm hesitating between both!
Feel free to contact me with any specific questions you may have about CCBill... I will be happy to walk you through our system.

Contact info listed below..

p.s. Thanks guys for the positive comments :thumbsup

gothoes 09-17-2004 10:47 AM

has anybody heard of a company out of canada called nexus?

Ty W 09-17-2004 04:40 PM

Hey Decadawn,

You should also consider eCommerceGlobal.com as a backup.

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* Free technical support
* Affiliate Tracking Program
* Customized Join Pages
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[email protected]
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zazzouche 09-17-2004 04:51 PM

I would tell you to go with both ibil and ccbill , I work with both and yes all companies pass though hard times but they both have a very solid team. Try them and then you can decide which company will be your primary and which one your secondary. You can always alternate just check out their reporting system and their customer support.

Good Luck!

Pornkings 09-17-2004 05:25 PM

It depends on many things try them both out or cascade.

Figure out what time of the month they scrub harder so you know which one to use as your primary processor.

Your options are pretty limited so it shouldn?t be difficult :)

Our Primary is Paycom secondary CCbill as of right now
:2 cents:


Goodluck

Major (Tom) 09-17-2004 05:34 PM

You will do the most transactions with I Bill hands down. The rebills are better too. They scrub the least and thats fact.
Chargebacks and refunds are a bit higher but definatley not an issue. In any case you need at least 2 billers anyway. But I use I bill primary 95% of the time

My I Bill rep is Kristi, she is awesome. I find that i bill support is the best and I can contact her whenever i need something done and either she takes care of it or gets someone who can take care of it on the phone with me within minutes. Hit her up. :)234382798
Cheers
Duke

BigWebRev 09-17-2004 05:36 PM

Paycom works well.

Lace 09-17-2004 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigWebRev
Paycom works well.

MikeVega 09-17-2004 05:38 PM

I use both...and CCBill is just Easier ....i like it better...:2 cents:

wimpy 09-17-2004 10:20 PM

Don't go with Epoch unless you read their holdback clause really really carefully. They hold more than anyone else and keep it until 3 years after your last transaction. They might as well just say "we keep your money until you're long dead."

pornguy 09-17-2004 10:23 PM

Years ago, we tired to set up accounts with Ibill. After a week of chasing them, we called ccbill. 24 hours later we were up an running.

About a year later, tired Ibill as a back up. one week later of chasing them, we gave up and used someone else.

But that is just one case. A lot of people say that they are very good.

Just never worked for me.

Bigjohn 09-18-2004 12:27 AM

I've been using CCBill for years... never a problem getting a hold of them and always a paycheck on time :thumbsup

kater 09-18-2004 03:16 PM

or a 4th...

http://www.eCommerceGlobal.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=15

james_clickmemedia 09-18-2004 07:24 PM

CCbill over Ibill.. Until Ibill proves themselves again.


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