Since Win XP SP2 disables all consoles - when are sponsors going to lower payouts? - GoFuckYourself.com

Lensman · 09-09-2004, 06:03 PM

XP Service Pack 2 blocks all popups and between current users and new computer users, most people won't get popups anymore.

So if a program pays $35 and $25 CF, and if the number of surfers who get popups goes down by 75%, then what happens to payouts?

Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.

pornstar2pac · 09-09-2004, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
So if a program pays $35 and $25 CF, and if the number of surfers who get popups goes down by 75%, then what happens to payouts?

Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.

What ever you do Lensman, people will follow

http · 09-09-2004, 06:06 PM

Someone already suggested (to webmasters) to send googlebar and sp2 traqffic to console and only the rest to console-free. I guess it would be wise for sponsors to check surfers for sp2 and googlebar

Easton · 09-09-2004, 06:06 PM

interesting question... i think many will only have one flat (lower) payout soon... if they manage to pop an exit somehow, it will prolly be for the credit of the sponsor and not the affiliate

Giorgio_Xo · 09-09-2004, 06:07 PM

Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-09-2004, 06:07 PM

I already have a popup built for sp2

Want some details have your guys contact me..

pimplink · 09-09-2004, 06:07 PM

It would be SMART for sponsors to MAKE the decision for themselves rather than let the MARKET (ie., their webmasters) make the decision for them.

The pay as you click model is also a good alternative.

Spunky · 09-09-2004, 06:08 PM

More and more people are going with sp2 and pop up blockers.Probably lower payouts are inevitable ,that and perhaps pop ups may be a thing of the past

http · 09-09-2004, 06:12 PM

my fear is that a new can of traffic leaks and excessive cross sells will be opened to replace the dying console model.

maybe we'll have different payouts for with/without traffic leaks

Giorgio_Xo · 09-09-2004, 06:14 PM

My suggestions:

1. Produce the best possible content.
2. Cross sell into other programs you own, e.g. own two separate programs.
3. Keep mailing.
4. Own your own TGPs/MGPs network.
5. Limit trial time access.
6. Use a merchant account instead of third party billers to reduce costs.
7. Along with several other large programs form your own bank so adult can deal directly with VISA and reduce costs.

pimplink · 09-09-2004, 06:18 PM

Maybe the answer to question lies in HOW MUCH of a PPS program's income comes from consoles?

Maybe prorate it?

BluMedia · 09-09-2004, 06:22 PM

We have never had more than one exit console and have never had any entry consoles so we won't be affected my the new update at all.

Mark

SmokeyTheBear · 09-09-2004, 06:22 PM

Dont throw in your chips just yet.

There are ways around sp2...

Quite a few infact..

Flash Overlays
Applets
and of course the good old regular console.

JoeA · 09-09-2004, 06:23 PM

Be thankful that you're not one in ten who the service pack2 creates the blue screen of death... I was unlucky and had to buy a new hd as I got fucked

Microsft even have a page now telling customers what servicepack2 can do to programmes... It stops Pinnaacle Studio 9 working properly as an example..

If anyone has sense they won't download it till the bugs are fixed

psyko514 · 09-09-2004, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Dont throw in your chips just yet.

There are ways around sp2...

Quite a few infact..

Flash Overlays
Applets
and of course the good old regular console.

do you think there will be an increase in activex installs?

SmokeyTheBear · 09-09-2004, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BluMedia
We have never had more than one exit console and have never had any entry consoles so we won't be affected my the new update at all.

Mark

Not directly , but maybe indirectly..

If your affilates are using you on a popup page, then you are affected , or if other sponsors use you as a sponsor in their own popups...

SmokeyTheBear · 09-09-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
do you think there will be an increase in activex installs?

The messages are still very vague for the average internet user..

I had this girl doing some reviewing for me the other day ( tgp reviews ) and i came back and she was all upset the computer was crashed and filled with spyware, i had only been gone for like 20 minutes.. so im like wtf did you do..

She said , i was on this one gallery and it said CLICK HERE , then all these other boces kept popping up telling me to ckick here and click there then the computer rebooted a few times lol.. poor girl,, poor computer ... ( it will never forgive me )

SmokeyTheBear · 09-09-2004, 06:30 PM

i think that was a yes..

Lensman · 09-09-2004, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.

Not exactly

http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np

SmokeyTheBear · 09-09-2004, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Not exactly

http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np

yes but your paid for those

pornstar2pac · 09-09-2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Not directly , but maybe indirectly..

If your affilates are using you on a popup page, then you are affected , or if other sponsors use you as a sponsor in their own popups...

good advice Lensman

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=354409&s=

Mr-No · 09-09-2004, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoeA
Be thankful that you're not one in ten who the service pack2 creates the blue screen of death... I was unlucky and had to buy a new hd as I got fucked

Microsft even have a page now telling customers what servicepack2 can do to programmes... It stops Pinnaacle Studio 9 working properly as an example..

If anyone has sense they won't download it till the bugs are fixed

Well, I have on my laptop sp2 and I use Studio9 on that comp without problems...

Eman - PG · 09-09-2004, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Not exactly

http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np

http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np&p=clean

Mutt · 09-09-2004, 06:47 PM

smokey can u email me? [email protected]

or icq 174-676-830

thanks

SmokeyTheBear · 09-09-2004, 06:50 PM

I can be reached at smokeythebearz AT lycos.com.

I dont charge but i expect compensation.

corvette · 09-09-2004, 06:58 PM

I hope nasty things do not begin to occur to keep the payouts stable.

I know of at least one program that has made some significant changes, in both paysite structure and payouts, to be able to continue to evolve in the changing dynamics of this environment?very bold step

pornstar2pac · 09-09-2004, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
I hope nasty things do not begin to occur to keep the payouts stable.

I know of at least one program that has made some significant changes, in both paysite structure and payouts, to be able to continue to evolve in the changing dynamics of this environment?very bold step

I would take this post very serious folks

extreme · 09-09-2004, 07:06 PM

If SP2 in UserAgent string autoredir to popupfree linkcode of the same gallery/site?

corvette · 09-09-2004, 07:07 PM

the above 2 thoughts are seperate, not related

Rick Latona · 09-09-2004, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.

The money is in retention. We'll also pay 35 dollars with no console if we are getting enough joins.

BlueQuartz · 09-09-2004, 07:48 PM

surely some smart guy will develop a way to pop consoles despite sp2 and popup blockers in general

afterall isnt it just a constant evolution of us vs them

Giorgio_Xo · 09-09-2004, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Not exactly

http://www.milfhunter.com/main.htm?id=np

No console for me. Are you sure you don't have spyware?

hydro · 09-09-2004, 08:02 PM

most sponsor's programmer's will be able to get around sp2 popup blocking.

Brujah · 09-09-2004, 08:05 PM

I think this is why Alien posted his thread about SP2, someone else has a product they sell that bypasses it apparently.

Tom_PMs · 09-09-2004, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
XP Service Pack 2 blocks all popups and between current users and new computer users, most people won't get popups anymore.

So if a program pays $35 and $25 CF, and if the number of surfers who get popups goes down by 75%, then what happens to payouts?

Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.

This is precisely what I spoke to my gf and partner about yesterday evening

I said you may as well send to the console options before SP2 is widespread because sponsors wont be offering it before too long.

Of course, tricky people could always have been detecting if a surfer had java enabled, then only sending people to console links if java was off. Also, sponsors could be checking if java was off and paying console free rates automagically too, lol.

At any rate, handwriting on the wall no question. Need to set a variable if a console was able to be viewed or not.

JSA Matt · 09-09-2004, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Dont throw in your chips just yet.

There are ways around sp2...

Quite a few infact..

Flash Overlays
Applets
and of course the good old regular console.

all talk and no walk makes smokey a dull boy

emthree · 09-09-2004, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hydro
most sponsor's programmer's will be able to get around sp2 popup blocking.

Doubt it, a few will get it and the rest will follow.
They maybe skilled, but not in those areas.

Kimmykim · 09-09-2004, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Dont throw in your chips just yet.

There are ways around sp2...

Quite a few infact..

Flash Overlays
Applets
and of course the good old regular console.

Don't forget opening a window directly from the DRM law window if you're using that on your video trailers ;)

Tom_PMs · 09-09-2004, 08:20 PM

What about window.showModalDialog?

Snake Doctor · 10-12-2004, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.

Yes but they don't pay you for signups that cancel or credit within 4 hours of joining.
I've heard from some paysite owners that at least HALF of all new joins cancel before they ever see the members area.....so using that math you're getting $17.50 per signup.

polish_aristocrat · 10-12-2004, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Yes but they don't pay you for signups that cancel or credit within 4 hours of joining.
I've heard from some paysite owners that at least HALF of all new joins cancel before they ever see the members area.....so using that math you're getting $17.50 per signup.

Well, but they are the biggest sponsor I think. So they cannot convert 2 times worse than other sponsors. If that was the case, they wouldn't be so big....

Just my

vospet · 10-12-2004, 12:29 PM

will have to wait and see.

Basic_man · 10-12-2004, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.

You are the man!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-12-2004, 12:33 PM

It Needs a catchy marketing term.

Like:

1: Pop Filtering
2: Pop switch.
3: Maximised For Pop Revenue or MFPR

Once thats established and coined it will be all the rage.

brand0n · 10-12-2004, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
What ever you do Lensman, people will follow

do you remove your lips from his ass once he goes to take a shit, or do you just move over to the side and wait for him to wipe?

tranza · 10-12-2004, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Nasty Dollars still pays $35 no console.

Really? How well do they convert?

TheSenator · 10-12-2004, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
I already have a popup built for sp2

Want some details have your guys contact me..

Please, don't tell anybody. Keep it for yourself and make millions. because as soon as you sell it......Some ultra geek nerd wll post the exploit on Microsoft knowledge think tank and then Microsoft will issue a patch.

The code is worth at least 5 digits....don't take any less.

tranza · 10-12-2004, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSenator
Please, don't tell anybody. Keep it for yourself and make millions. because as soon as you sell it......Some ultra geek nerd wll post the exploit on Microsoft knowledge think tank and then Microsoft will issue a patch.

The code is worth at least 5 digits....don't take any less.

Lol... If you search real good I'm sure you'll find a few ways around SP2...

TheSenator · 10-12-2004, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
Lol... If you search real good I'm sure you'll find a few ways around SP2...

whatever

polish_aristocrat · 10-12-2004, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
Really? How well do they convert?

Feel free to find out for yourself.

I just recently signed up to them, but cumfiesta converst already great for me.

NASTY DOLLARS

Thanks in advance, shoudl you decide to join them under me :D

09-09-2004, 06:03 PM	#1
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Since Win XP SP2 disables all consoles - when are sponsors going to lower payouts? XP Service Pack 2 blocks all popups and between current users and new computer users, most people won't get popups anymore. So if a program pays $35 and $25 CF, and if the number of surfers who get popups goes down by 75%, then what happens to payouts? Do programs detect whether a surfer gets a console, and pays the correct payout. That's probably the best idea.

09-09-2004, 06:06 PM	#4
Easton Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,825	interesting question... i think many will only have one flat (lower) payout soon... if they manage to pop an exit somehow, it will prolly be for the credit of the sponsor and not the affiliate __________________ New models booked and shot every week... MILFs, pornstars and teens. Girls for every niche and project. Looking for high-quality affordable exclusive content? Check me out at Easton Content for all the details.

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	I already have a popup built for sp2 Want some details have your guys contact me.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

09-09-2004, 06:07 PM	#7
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	It would be SMART for sponsors to MAKE the decision for themselves rather than let the MARKET (ie., their webmasters) make the decision for them. The pay as you click model is also a good alternative. __________________ Need Mainstream Content and SEO? SEO * Website Copy * Blogs Blogging - PR Work - Forum Marketing - Social Marketing - Link building - Articles 100% Guaranteed Content!

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http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	Someone already suggested (to webmasters) to send googlebar and sp2 traqffic to console and only the rest to console-free. I guess it would be wise for sponsors to check surfers for sp2 and googlebar

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Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,944	More and more people are going with sp2 and pop up blockers.Probably lower payouts are inevitable ,that and perhaps pop ups may be a thing of the past __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

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http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	my fear is that a new can of traffic leaks and excessive cross sells will be opened to replace the dying console model. maybe we'll have different payouts for with/without traffic leaks

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Giorgio_Xo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,263	My suggestions: 1. Produce the best possible content. 2. Cross sell into other programs you own, e.g. own two separate programs. 3. Keep mailing. 4. Own your own TGPs/MGPs network. 5. Limit trial time access. 6. Use a merchant account instead of third party billers to reduce costs. 7. Along with several other large programs form your own bank so adult can deal directly with VISA and reduce costs. __________________ Make Levees, Not War

09-09-2004, 06:18 PM	#11
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	Maybe the answer to question lies in HOW MUCH of a PPS program's income comes from consoles? Maybe prorate it? __________________ Need Mainstream Content and SEO? SEO * Website Copy * Blogs Blogging - PR Work - Forum Marketing - Social Marketing - Link building - Articles 100% Guaranteed Content!

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BluMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,973	We have never had more than one exit console and have never had any entry consoles so we won't be affected my the new update at all. Mark __________________ IntenseCash - If you can't convert us then you might want to look for a new job . BrokeStraightBoys.com converting 1:124 stats counted by Nats

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Dont throw in your chips just yet. There are ways around sp2... Quite a few infact.. Flash Overlays Applets and of course the good old regular console. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

09-09-2004, 06:23 PM	#14
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	Be thankful that you're not one in ten who the service pack2 creates the blue screen of death... I was unlucky and had to buy a new hd as I got fucked Microsft even have a page now telling customers what servicepack2 can do to programmes... It stops Pinnaacle Studio 9 working properly as an example.. If anyone has sense they won't download it till the bugs are fixed

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	i think that was a yes.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	smokey can u email me? [email protected] or icq 174-676-830 thanks

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corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	I hope nasty things do not begin to occur to keep the payouts stable. I know of at least one program that has made some significant changes, in both paysite structure and payouts, to be able to continue to evolve in the changing dynamics of this environment?very bold step __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	the above 2 thoughts are seperate, not related __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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BlueQuartz Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,971	surely some smart guy will develop a way to pop consoles despite sp2 and popup blockers in general afterall isnt it just a constant evolution of us vs them

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hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	most sponsor's programmer's will be able to get around sp2 popup blocking.

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