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Chris · 09-09-2004, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by RuthXtremePay
How is it a waste of time if people get to see it? Promo promo, you should know this Chris, I've seen you promo with the best of em on here.... every little extra counts, right?

So why not make a banner for a day... and it's only 5 sales you need to get.. not 15..

i love promos just as much as the other one days

but i was saying it is for only 15 sales

3 x 5 = 15

3 webmasters that send 5 sales first will get 100% on the first 5 sales they send :P:P

that is where i get the magic number 15

Persius · 09-09-2004, 05:41 PM

nice brad when u get time get on msn!

p1mpdogg · 09-09-2004, 05:48 PM

fast size makes me more money than any other sponsor. fast size rocks da hizzy

media · 09-09-2004, 05:50 PM

Take these guys up on this shit.. we are going to do super with this promotion..

Anything you need Brian will work real hard to get it for you..

slapass · 09-09-2004, 05:54 PM

Broke my cherry with you guys. Very fucking nice to see the $75 in the account.

sexeducation · 09-09-2004, 05:57 PM

; )
Keep your groupies out of my threads and we'll be fine.
outa here

[Brian] · 09-09-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by slapass
Broke my cherry with you guys. Very fucking nice to see the $75 in the account.

Cool

I was just checking out your site .... good stuff

XxShiznaughtxX · 09-09-2004, 07:13 PM

wow, i didn't realize you guys were rolling out the instant payouts already

Darren · 09-09-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by slapass
Broke my cherry with you guys. Very fucking nice to see the $75 in the account.

$75 lol...

Chris · 09-09-2004, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg
fast size makes me more money than any other sponsor. fast size rocks da hizzy

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TTTT

BradM · 09-09-2004, 08:11 PM

Slapass: saw your sale today. Nice ratio for the type of traffic you're sending.

I want to redo your landing page for you... I'll hit you up tomorrow about it.

Thanks for the kind words Trey and Media. Love you guys too.

BradM · 09-09-2004, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Persius
nice brad when u get time get on msn!

My msn wont load. GRRR

the_wizz · 09-09-2004, 09:18 PM

Good deal!!

Fastsize has been the one, steady thing I've managed to make money on so far....

And now its even better with instant payouts!! w00t

Odin88 · 09-09-2004, 10:22 PM

Not to hammer the program, as it has helped me a bit of cash, ande Brian seems like a nice guy, but rather than offering this short contest why doesn't fastsize just man up and offer $150 per sale. Everyone knows you can do it and still get a great profit (hell, the other companies do). I don't see the inside stats, and I guess you guys are watching them closely due to the recent competiton, but if you don't match the 150 offered by other companies soon for ALL purchases I'd say you risk loosing yuor awesome position.

Match them, and you will hold your ground with all the current affiliates you have, don't and I'd say mensniche will take over within the next 12 months. This is an outside perspective of course, and nothing bad on the company, though I am considering changing my links over to mensniche (keep in mind I don't send many sales these days anyway).

Chris · 09-09-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Not to hammer the program, as it has helped me a bit of cash, ande Brian seems like a nice guy, but rather than offering this short contest why doesn't fastsize just man up and offer $150 per sale. Everyone knows you can do it and still get a great profit (hell, the other companies do). I don't see the inside stats, and I guess you guys are watching them closely due to the recent competiton, but if you don't match the 150 offered by other companies soon for ALL purchases I'd say you risk loosing yuor awesome position.

Match them, and you will hold your ground with all the current affiliates you have, don't and I'd say mensniche will take over within the next 12 months. This is an outside perspective of course, and nothing bad on the company, though I am considering changing my links over to mensniche (keep in mind I don't send many sales these days anyway).

Fast size DOES match the 150$ payout to the affilates who sent large volumes. ALmost seems as if they dont care about the little guys. I am in no way bashing fast size or there employees just stating my opion

THe company I am with ( witch im am not naming and I am removing sig out of total respect ) .... looks at all affilates the same and they all get the same payouts...... Every affilate gets 150$ a sale ... Every affilates get paid 200$ a sale one random day of the week ... Every affilate gets the same treatment.

Mensniche is a solid company aswell but there are alot of other guys comin into the game aswell....Within in weeks we will see two or three more companys pop up and offer the same products we sell ...... Only thing we claim is that we sell the oringal product ... Witch we do ... our disturb. has been selling online sence 96' ... and it can be proven with wayback machine

and the others in the game so far from what I have seen are using a diffrent company that seems to be in some hot water at the moment but that is just what I have heard ... ;)

Anyways ... I think we all run tight programs and we all have our own perks

Fastsize being that they where the first publicy annoucnned afiflate program to sell this product on gfy ( NOT ON THE NET some before them ) ....

MensNiche for Selling the extender plus all in one package .. pills ; extender ; workout .. bet it converts pretty damn well too

and our company.. guess Ill mention the name without a link ... OAInternet ... 150$ payouts ... awsome convertions ... soon to be mailer friendly ( hopefully grrr ) ... 200$ payouts randomly once a week on all sales for a 24 hour period ....

Dont really know much about LeadingEdge really ... but they have a pretty sweet lookin program though

anyways ... just my view on things

heh

Odin88 · 09-09-2004, 10:38 PM

Yes I know your company too, and no disrespect when I said I expected mensniche to take over. Mensniche has a solid bunch of affiliates already and a good crew and I believe they are in best position if fastsize doesn't stand up. Like you said, lots of guys are moving into that market, and (although this is obviously an outside perspective) unless fastsize secures their position soon by matching the payout (hell other companies DOUBLE it) I bet they will go down hill - and it will hard to be able to crawl back up once all the competition has arrived.

[Brian] · 09-09-2004, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
Fast size DOES match the 150$ payout to the affilates who sent large volumes. ALmost seems as if they dont care about the little guys. I am in no way bashing fast size or there employees just stating my opion..... blah blah I'm a tactless moron

heh

TELL me you didn't just post that in our announcement thread.

Just minutes after I find out you're trying to steal affiliates FROM the thread my messaging them in private.

Exhibit A:

<tdawg> JupZ Chris: yo
<tdawg> JupZ Chris: you honestly making buck with fast size bro?
<tdawg> EpcCsh: yea
<tdawg> EpcCsh: its a good money maker
<tdawg> isnt this competition brian?
<tdawg> JupZ Chris: What if I told you we convert better and pay MORE than them ?
<tdawg> JupZ Chris: Would it be more of a loyalty thing you got with them ?
<tdawg> EpcCsh: brian is my friend tho, and i made a comitment to him
<tdawg> EpcCsh: sorry

As if copying my idea wasn't enough for you guys, now you are resorting to these kinds of games?

I swear, anyone that does biz with you kids is a fool.

JupZChris -- Welcome to my shitlist son.

Strife · 09-09-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation
huh ?
explain

Ok, in other word...good fucking deal

[Brian] · 09-09-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Yes I know your company too, and no disrespect when I said I expected mensniche to take over. Mensniche has a solid bunch of affiliates already and a good crew and I believe they are in best position if fastsize doesn't stand up. Like you said, lots of guys are moving into that market, and (although this is obviously an outside perspective) unless fastsize secures their position soon by matching the payout (hell other companies DOUBLE it) I bet they will go down hill - and it will hard to be able to crawl back up once all the competition has arrived.

Hey good to hear from you again, message me sometime if you want to discuss traffic and what not.

BTW - We offer the same $150 payout, we just make the affiliates generate some volume to achieve it.

Something to consider about these alleged $150 per sale.

$299 ticket price
~$90-100 cost of inventory
$150 alleged affiliate payout
$5-15 cost of shipping
$5-15 cc processing

Do you REALLY think you are getting $150 per sale while they make like $25 per order? Let's get real here. I'd like to have a password to their backend -- wouldn't you?

BradM · 09-09-2004, 10:53 PM

Chris... what the fuck man?

This is hillarious.

I've been nothing but kind to you. Since day one when you called me I liked you. We got along great. Around the same age, same sort of dedication and drive.

But you just stabbed me in the back.

Need I remind you who GOT YOU your fucking job? Without my word, Steve would have never considered hiring you. I could tell you more, but I will do so in private as GFY need not hear inside info.

Then you go and try to steal affiliates like this? God, I feel like throwing up.
You just messed up- and you will never have my support again regardless of the industry we are in. Don't bother trying to apologize. You will have no problems going around my back in the future, this much I can tell.

{fusion} · 09-09-2004, 10:57 PM

cockwars

Odin88 · 09-09-2004, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Brian]
Hey good to hear from you again, message me sometime if you want to discuss traffic and what not.

BTW - We offer the same $150 payout, we just make the affiliates generate some volume to achieve it.

Something to consider about these alleged $150 per sale.

$299 ticket price
~$90-100 cost of inventory
$150 alleged affiliate payout
$5-15 cost of shipping
$5-15 cc processing

Do you REALLY think you are getting $150 per sale while they make like $25 per order? Let's get real here. I'd like to have a password to their backend -- wouldn't you?

Brian I think your a nice guy, and I wish you luck, but I personally would trust mensniche. They are trying to squeeze the market I guess, and although I understand your reluctance to want to do it (i mean I am sure you are making great money at the moment), I just suggested from an outside view you might have to (though your the one seeing your daily stats etc so I guess you know eitherway).

$25 per sale isn't too bad though from an affiliate point of view I think, (I know it might be a stepdown from what you earn now) but I'd think it might be a good move to secure your position very strongly to assure these guys don't squeeze your large hold on the market, as you know there will be many who try. You might also consider branching out and offering pills, etc for sale to compete with the roundness of programs like mensniche.

Either way gl.

BradM · 09-09-2004, 11:05 PM

Odin: I totally 100% understand your opinion from an affiliate standpoint.

But from a business standpoint, it makes no sense.

Let me put it in different terms. The programs engaging in the extender business now, currently run successfull PILL companies. These companies came into this market as they saw some room to move. Now I know from direct information from an owner of one of these programs that they have PLANS to LOSE money for 2 months, until they "lower the payouts" of their program.

The idea of their business tactics? Snag affiliates of ours, and paw as much business as they can away from us.
Shit, sounds like a good plan right? To an extent. Our affiliates are loyal as I have found thus far. Amazingly loyal.

This business model can not exist forever for some of these companies and you will watch as they slowly adapt our pay scale, or a $75-$100 flat fee to be able to survive the costs involved etc.

It may not make sense now, but this is all coming. We're not worried.

Odin88 · 09-09-2004, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Odin: I totally 100% understand your opinion from an affiliate standpoint.

But from a business standpoint, it makes no sense.

Let me put it in different terms. The programs engaging in the extender business now, currently run successfull PILL companies. These companies came into this market as they saw some room to move. Now I know from direct information from an owner of one of these programs that they have PLANS to LOSE money for 2 months, until they "lower the payouts" of their program.

The idea of their business tactics? Snag affiliates of ours, and paw as much business as they can away from us.
Shit, sounds like a good plan right? To an extent. Our affiliates are loyal as I have found thus far. Amazingly loyal.

This business model can not exist forever for some of these companies and you will watch as they slowly adapt our pay scale, or a $75-$100 flat fee to be able to survive the costs involved etc.

It may not make sense now, but this is all coming. We're not worried.

Of course heaps of companies try and squeeze out their competition (a common tactic by big supermarket companies, etc) before jacking their prices, or in this case lowering their payouts. On the other hand you claim they are loosing money? Brian just gave us the information on how much all this costs and even at a $150 payout he states a company would still make a $25 profit per sale. I believe you are possibly talking about oainternet with their 200$ random days, but I'd say a solid $150 payout, especially when coupled with a trial 'penis health' membership (which I assume rebills them another $20 later on unless they cancel) is very viable.

I remember Brian stated he was doing around 20k orders per day a while back - that equals about 65 fastsize extenders, at $25 per profit (and/or with another rebill that you manage to achieve for $25 on every 1:2 people - a total guess) Brian would still achieve a $2000 a day profit. I bet it is a step down from what he is earning now (and there is nothign wrong with that, he found a niche market and capitalised - well done to him) it would at least secure fastsize's future for a long time to come.

[Brian] · 09-09-2004, 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by Darren
$75 lol...

You liked the $75 payouts you were receiving from me for several months while you worked on your FastSize clone site.

psyko514 · 09-10-2004, 12:23 AM

wow... a lot of backstabbing in this thread. fuct up.

Dagwolf · 09-10-2004, 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514
wow... a lot of backstabbing in this thread. fuct up.

Even negative comments keep the thread pinned. ;)

congratulations on the job, Brad.

Tempest · 09-10-2004, 12:58 AM

Fuck it... I'm signing up to FastSize right now to give it a go....

By the way.. props to you for keeping the spam down. I don't believe I've got any since that first week or two.

[Brian] · 09-10-2004, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Tempest
Fuck it... I'm signing up to FastSize right now to give it a go....

By the way.. props to you for keeping the spam down. I don't believe I've got any since that first week or two.

We don't allow spam in our program. If you receive one email abuse and you will see that affiliate's account disappear.

Please contact me after you signup .. we'll discuss your traffic and figure out what will work best.

[Brian] · 09-10-2004, 03:28 AM

INSTANT PAYOUTS guys

For anyone that contacted us today you are currently setup and will be paid out as any orders come in. I guess we'll save some money on check printing from now on.

Darren · 09-10-2004, 04:58 AM

I am quite interested that everyone takes so much time in bashing each other than working on their affiliate programs. Lets all grow up just a little bit. We all have our business models and be respectful to those which have a different business model shan your own, do not imply its impossible just because you can not see how it is done.

Some things to consider which would change the entire "costs" given above are, relationship with wholesaler, which product you actually purchase, processing cost, ability to upsale etc. For example and this is no disrespect to OA but they ship out the cheaper version of the extender (the one in the cardboard box) while FastSize ship out the AndroMedical version which is of far superior quality. (MensNiche ship the high quality one too)

Every program as its good points and bad points and if you want we can make a thread and all clearly post them for the affiliates to see instead of snide comments behind peoples back... Making accusations about MensNiche "paying out higher and then going to lower payouts", "would like to see their admin because its impossible etc" is just low and classless. It also implys that affiliates are stupid, loyalty will come with affiliates when you give them what they want, we have had affiliates for 3 years.

Im not going to post our selling points in this thread as a matter of respect, although the lack of it shown to MensNiche in this thread is simply a joke.

Darren MensNiche.com

2XY · 09-10-2004, 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by Darren
I am quite interested that everyone takes so much time in bashing each other than working on their affiliate programs. Lets all grow up just a little bit. We all have our business models and be respectful to those which have a different business model shan your own, do not imply its impossible just because you can not see how it is done.

Some things to consider which would change the entire "costs" given above are, relationship with wholesaler, which product you actually purchase, processing cost, ability to upsale etc. For example and this is no disrespect to OA but they ship out the cheaper version of the extender (the one in the cardboard box) while FastSize ship out the AndroMedical version which is of far superior quality. (MensNiche ship the high quality one too)

Every program as its good points and bad points and if you want we can make a thread and all clearly post them for the affiliates to see instead of snide comments behind peoples back... Making accusations about MensNiche "paying out higher and then going to lower payouts", "would like to see their admin because its impossible etc" is just low and classless. It also implys that affiliates are stupid, loyalty will come with affiliates when you give them what they want, we have had affiliates for 3 years.

Im not going to post our selling points in this thread as a matter of respect, although the lack of it shown to MensNiche in this thread is simply a joke.

Darren MensNiche.com

It's utterly appalling that you even thought of typing shit like this to portray yourself as a professional businessman when you know for a fact that you were the petty asshole that was involved in creating drama in the past threads concerning FastSize.

Why do you feel the need to jump in to their threads all the time?? Mensniche was hardly mentioned in this thread...and THIS IS A FASTSIZE announcement thread...so control yourself from typing shit that people don't care to read.

[Brian] · 09-10-2004, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 2XY
It's utterly appalling that you even thought of typing shit like this to portray yourself as a professional businessman when you know for a fact that you were the petty asshole that was involved in creating drama in the past threads concerning FastSize.

Why do you feel the need to jump in to their threads all the time?? Mensniche was hardly mentioned in this thread...and THIS IS A FASTSIZE announcement thread...so control yourself from typing shit that people don't care to read.

I love this guy.

Chris · 09-10-2004, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darren

Im not going to post our selling points in this thread as a matter of respect, although the lack of it shown to MensNiche in this thread is simply a joke.

Darren MensNiche.com

I already did it for EVERYONE in a few post up and I guess that is bad ... :-/

Damn if I knew i was going to get ass-reamed all night about it .. I might aswell used a ref code and linked all the programs

Preacher · 09-10-2004, 09:03 AM

that sounds like a sweet deal

TonyL · 09-10-2004, 09:15 AM

Great stuff B!

-Tony

Darren · 09-10-2004, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 2XY
It's utterly appalling that you even thought of typing shit like this to portray yourself as a professional businessman when you know for a fact that you were the petty asshole that was involved in creating drama in the past threads concerning FastSize.

Why do you feel the need to jump in to their threads all the time?? Mensniche was hardly mentioned in this thread...and THIS IS A FASTSIZE announcement thread...so control yourself from typing shit that people don't care to read.

Incorrect, also MensNiche was mentioned several times, go back and read.

dig420 · 09-10-2004, 09:40 AM

Golly. All this bashing and infighting, what a slaughter. I don't know if my stomach can take it. All I can say is...

Every mailer in the world must be reading this thread. Contact me and let's make some deals

icq 2417874

BlackCrayon · 09-10-2004, 10:01 AM

i love fast size....

btw is this promotion over yet? have three affiliates gotten 5 sales yet? just wondering if i still stand a chance. lol

[Brian] · 09-10-2004, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
Golly. All this bashing and infighting, what a slaughter. I don't know if my stomach can take it. All I can say is...

Every mailer in the world must be reading this thread. Contact me and let's make some deals

icq 2417874

LTNS dig ... Can I hit you up about being an upsell on FetishBucks?

Gotta keep the love out here on the west coast

BradM · 09-10-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by BlackCrayon
btw is this promotion over yet? have three affiliates gotten 5 sales yet? just wondering if i still stand a chance. lol

Well I'll be honest, 2 guys are really close. You still have a chance though.

Tempest · 09-10-2004, 04:20 PM

Like I said I would do, signed up last nite and I only put up a banner on a smaller site. Haven't got around to putting up more links, banners etc... checked stats 2 hours ago and had a sale with 1:76 RAW... Would be great if that sort of conversion continued.

I suspect the promo is probably over but here's a bump for ya.

09-09-2004, 05:48 PM	#53
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	fast size makes me more money than any other sponsor. fast size rocks da hizzy __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

09-09-2004, 05:50 PM	#54
media Confirmed Moneymaker Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR It's Like Jail, Only with Trees! Posts: 9,852	Take these guys up on this shit.. we are going to do super with this promotion.. Anything you need Brian will work real hard to get it for you.. __________________ I'm here for the violence!

09-09-2004, 07:13 PM	#58
XxShiznaughtxX Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 408	wow, i didn't realize you guys were rolling out the instant payouts already __________________ Why haven't you given FastSize a try yet? Wm Signup: http://www.fastsize.com/webmasters/?rid=1016 Tour: http://fastsize.com ICQ 21950315

09-09-2004, 09:18 PM	#63
the_wizz Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: hmmm..... Posts: 1,633	Good deal!! Fastsize has been the one, steady thing I've managed to make money on so far.... And now its even better with instant payouts!! w00t __________________ Promote the Best

09-10-2004, 12:23 AM	#76
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	wow... a lot of backstabbing in this thread. fuct up. __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

09-09-2004, 05:41 PM	#52
Persius Tap into MOBILE! Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hollywood Posts: 11,779	nice brad when u get time get on msn!

09-09-2004, 05:54 PM	#55
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Broke my cherry with you guys. Very fucking nice to see the $75 in the account.

09-09-2004, 05:57 PM	#56
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	; ) Keep your groupies out of my threads and we'll be fine. outa here

09-09-2004, 08:11 PM	#61
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Slapass: saw your sale today. Nice ratio for the type of traffic you're sending. I want to redo your landing page for you... I'll hit you up tomorrow about it. Thanks for the kind words Trey and Media. Love you guys too.

09-09-2004, 10:22 PM	#64
Odin88 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: au Posts: 3,267	Not to hammer the program, as it has helped me a bit of cash, ande Brian seems like a nice guy, but rather than offering this short contest why doesn't fastsize just man up and offer $150 per sale. Everyone knows you can do it and still get a great profit (hell, the other companies do). I don't see the inside stats, and I guess you guys are watching them closely due to the recent competiton, but if you don't match the 150 offered by other companies soon for ALL purchases I'd say you risk loosing yuor awesome position. Match them, and you will hold your ground with all the current affiliates you have, don't and I'd say mensniche will take over within the next 12 months. This is an outside perspective of course, and nothing bad on the company, though I am considering changing my links over to mensniche (keep in mind I don't send many sales these days anyway).

09-09-2004, 10:38 PM	#66
Odin88 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: au Posts: 3,267	Yes I know your company too, and no disrespect when I said I expected mensniche to take over. Mensniche has a solid bunch of affiliates already and a good crew and I believe they are in best position if fastsize doesn't stand up. Like you said, lots of guys are moving into that market, and (although this is obviously an outside perspective) unless fastsize secures their position soon by matching the payout (hell other companies DOUBLE it) I bet they will go down hill - and it will hard to be able to crawl back up once all the competition has arrived.

09-09-2004, 10:53 PM	#70
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Chris... what the fuck man? This is hillarious. I've been nothing but kind to you. Since day one when you called me I liked you. We got along great. Around the same age, same sort of dedication and drive. But you just stabbed me in the back. Need I remind you who GOT YOU your fucking job? Without my word, Steve would have never considered hiring you. I could tell you more, but I will do so in private as GFY need not hear inside info. Then you go and try to steal affiliates like this? God, I feel like throwing up. You just messed up- and you will never have my support again regardless of the industry we are in. Don't bother trying to apologize. You will have no problems going around my back in the future, this much I can tell.

09-09-2004, 10:57 PM	#71
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	cockwars

09-09-2004, 11:05 PM	#73
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Odin: I totally 100% understand your opinion from an affiliate standpoint. But from a business standpoint, it makes no sense. Let me put it in different terms. The programs engaging in the extender business now, currently run successfull PILL companies. These companies came into this market as they saw some room to move. Now I know from direct information from an owner of one of these programs that they have PLANS to LOSE money for 2 months, until they "lower the payouts" of their program. The idea of their business tactics? Snag affiliates of ours, and paw as much business as they can away from us. Shit, sounds like a good plan right? To an extent. Our affiliates are loyal as I have found thus far. Amazingly loyal. This business model can not exist forever for some of these companies and you will watch as they slowly adapt our pay scale, or a $75-$100 flat fee to be able to survive the costs involved etc. It may not make sense now, but this is all coming. We're not worried.

09-10-2004, 12:58 AM	#78
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Fuck it... I'm signing up to FastSize right now to give it a go.... By the way.. props to you for keeping the spam down. I don't believe I've got any since that first week or two.

09-10-2004, 03:28 AM	#80
[Brian] Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,523	INSTANT PAYOUTS guys For anyone that contacted us today you are currently setup and will be paid out as any orders come in. I guess we'll save some money on check printing from now on. __________________ HerbalRevenue - Exciting new enhancement program ICQ: 391113064

09-10-2004, 04:58 AM	#81
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	I am quite interested that everyone takes so much time in bashing each other than working on their affiliate programs. Lets all grow up just a little bit. We all have our business models and be respectful to those which have a different business model shan your own, do not imply its impossible just because you can not see how it is done. Some things to consider which would change the entire "costs" given above are, relationship with wholesaler, which product you actually purchase, processing cost, ability to upsale etc. For example and this is no disrespect to OA but they ship out the cheaper version of the extender (the one in the cardboard box) while FastSize ship out the AndroMedical version which is of far superior quality. (MensNiche ship the high quality one too) Every program as its good points and bad points and if you want we can make a thread and all clearly post them for the affiliates to see instead of snide comments behind peoples back... Making accusations about MensNiche "paying out higher and then going to lower payouts", "would like to see their admin because its impossible etc" is just low and classless. It also implys that affiliates are stupid, loyalty will come with affiliates when you give them what they want, we have had affiliates for 3 years. Im not going to post our selling points in this thread as a matter of respect, although the lack of it shown to MensNiche in this thread is simply a joke. Darren MensNiche.com __________________ Penis enlargement / male enhancement pills - earn up to $229.48 per signup ICQ: 46335817

09-10-2004, 09:03 AM	#85
Preacher Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,970	that sounds like a sweet deal

09-10-2004, 09:15 AM	#86
TonyL Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "A measure of a man is his post count". Write that down. Posts: 900	Great stuff B! -Tony

09-10-2004, 09:40 AM	#88
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Golly. All this bashing and infighting, what a slaughter. I don't know if my stomach can take it. All I can say is... Every mailer in the world must be reading this thread. Contact me and let's make some deals icq 2417874

09-10-2004, 10:01 AM	#89
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	i love fast size.... btw is this promotion over yet? have three affiliates gotten 5 sales yet? just wondering if i still stand a chance. lol __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

09-10-2004, 04:20 PM	#92
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Like I said I would do, signed up last nite and I only put up a banner on a smaller site. Haven't got around to putting up more links, banners etc... checked stats 2 hours ago and had a sale with 1:76 RAW... Would be great if that sort of conversion continued. I suspect the promo is probably over but here's a bump for ya.