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Old 07-10-2001, 12:27 PM   #1
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Circumcision -- the horror

Check out this very informative link... you will see how horrible circumcision is... Actually it's very depressing to know that my parents allowed this to happen...
http://www.cirp.org/library/

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Old 07-10-2001, 12:40 PM   #2
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People were brainwashed, back then by misinformation and not all doctors had common sense

check this little blurb out;
Surgeons continued to perform open-heart surgery without anesthetic, using curare only to paralyze the newborn, until 1987.49 A public outcry finally forced surgeons to stop this practice.

unbelievable

I heard an old lady talking about how they cut her tonsils out without using anesthetic when she was a child, and she can still remember the sound it made "like tearing gristle from a chicken" and she was 100+ years old

so it shows you the impact of pain

doctors made money from removing tonsils, like taking out your appendix, and it was an easy operation = easy money

people were brainwashed (scared) into thinking that this was necessary, to reduce risk of infection, and maybe even save a child's life

There are almost as many nerves on the end of the penis as there are in the lips and mouth, would you allow the doctor to cut a piece from your child's mouth without freezing it first?

I am glad that I was smart enough not to have that done to our kids, even though it was done to most of us
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Old 07-10-2001, 12:46 PM   #3
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That's some nasty stuff.

<---- oh the pain!
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Old 07-10-2001, 12:52 PM   #4
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OUCH !! I'm glad that I was too young to remember that, BUT in the same sense I'm glad that I got it done while I was a baby. Imagine how some people get that done while they're older.
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Old 07-10-2001, 01:21 PM   #5
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"Removal of the prepuce substantially reduces erogenous sensation."<sup>1</sup>



Phew, I'm glad my foreskin is intact.



1. Warren J, Bigelow J. The case against circumcision. British Journal of Sexal Medicine, September/October 1994:6-8.
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Old 07-10-2001, 01:34 PM   #6
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Old 07-10-2001, 01:48 PM   #7
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okay. this is weird. i have seen over a hundred penis' up close and personal. i can count on one hand the uncircumcized ones.

i don't think it's a regional thing. i am from west texas. i lived in dallas for 10 years and tasted pretty much the smorgasbord of cock. so, am i just innately attracted to cut guys? as a user, i prefer cut guys.



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Old 07-10-2001, 02:08 PM   #8
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Well known fact that the removal of the foreskin seriously reduces the risk for infections due to un-hygienic cleansing. Thats the main purpose for it.

In other words, men (for the most part)do not wash as they should or as often as they need to.

'Sides it's nicer without IMO.
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Old 07-10-2001, 02:40 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gemini:
[B]Well known fact that the removal of the foreskin seriously reduces the risk for infections due to un-hygienic cleansing. Thats the main purpose for it.
Gemini that is a myth. The foreskin actually protects the penis. Do you really think evolution would produce a penis that was hygienically inferior to what man can produce with a knife? Women occasionally have hygien problems too -- but who would recommend using a scalpel to start cutting away... ?

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The amount of skin that is actually cut away amounts to about the size of an index card. Some of the most sensitive and specialized nerves are cut away and I'll never know what that will feel like. Not only that but the foreskin is supposed to help stimulate the G-Spot, reduce painful friction for the woman during intercourse and give the male more of an ejaculation response and sensitivity. Also the foreskin is said to develop and specialize in function well into adulthood.

"As noted above, circumcision inteferes with penile circulation by destroying several important blood vessels that provide circulation to the penis. Circumcision may also contribute to erectile dysfunction by destroying some of the erogenous sensory tissue in the prepuce that participates in the erectile response.

O'Hara and O'Hara surveyed 138 women who had experience with both circumcised male partners and intact complete male partners. 20 of the 138 preferred circumcised male partners while 118 (85.5%) preferred intact male partners with anatomically complete penises over circumcised males. The respondents reported that circumcised partners tended to ejaculate prematurely more frequently than intact male partners. Some respondents commented that unaltered male partners appeared to enjoy coitus more than their circumcised counterparts."

Owell -- not much I can do about it but tell others... If you read the psychological effects of circumcision -- that's a trip in itself... I wouldn't doubt that the trauma from circumcision as a baby could affect the long term psychology of adult males... and the way they interact with the world.

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Old 07-10-2001, 02:42 PM   #10
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Old 07-10-2001, 02:47 PM   #11
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Skin and mucosa.

The outer surface of the prepuce is skin, however the inner surface is mucosal membrane although it resembles skin in appearance. There is a muco-cutaneous boundary just inside the tip of the prepuce. The mucosa has sebaceous glands that lubricate, moisturize, and protect the glans penis. The prepuce normally covers the glans penis and protects it from foreign matter, friction, drying, and injury.
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Old 07-10-2001, 05:52 PM   #12
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Mines cut and it's sa-weet looking. Them uncut ones look nasty.. like a big ole outtie bellybutton.


quote "Removal of the prepuce substantially reduces erogenous sensation." /quote

I think that's horseshit, and, even if it isn't.. damn I wouldn't want to be more sensitive.


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Old 07-10-2001, 06:15 PM   #13
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i'm not even gonna read the posts on this thread - cutting a part off the cock is fuckin WRONG - full fuckin stop.
I have seen all sorts of demented shit, and nothing prepared me for the choked screams of an un-aneasetised boy getting his foreskin cut off.
ANYMOTHERFUCKER who has a slight agreement with involuntary(under 16) circumcision can come and have a go at cutting my fuckin skin off... I'll show you fuckin pain...
http://www.intact.ca/video.html - watch THIS fucker with the volume turned up and THEN tell me I am out of order
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Old 07-10-2001, 09:28 PM   #14
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I would like to add to my comment by saying that I truly remember getting it done....

One of only 2 memories I took away from being an infant..

The other involved tall buildings and a black stroller (both of which I saw when i grew up).

The cutting off of my foreskin must have been really painful and scary for me to remember it.

Still, I like the looks of it though.
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Old 07-10-2001, 09:41 PM   #15
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Hmmm Pete, you could say I have more or less done a personal survey... We won't discuss any more than that fact in depth, but I prefer bare ones. Smegna was the word I was trying to remember earlier and it stinks pretty bad as well as forms alot quicker than a woman generally gets it's equal.

I never seemed to have a problem with having men get stimulated well enough either.

I guess its a choice thing but you can never get it back if its gone. And as far as someone may or not be more sensitive?? That is sort of like asking a question as to which sex has the more intense feelings in orgasm? There is no way to ever translate that sensation so that another person would be able to know what one felt eh? I think thats all a myth too! Personal choice I guess. They put me out for the tonsil thing but then I'm not trying to compare the early 1900's to the mid 1960's.

Gosh! In the civil war they sawed off body parts with guys just holding you down. Progress has changed alot of that. Previous to that you just died.
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