45-Years old and you're working as a sales rep at Sears? Give me a break.. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

CDSmith · 09-05-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9
Yeah, I can't imagine being 45+ and making the kind of wages these guys pull down. I'm 20, and easily pull down more than 30k a year working 2 hours a day from home - I can't imagine how hard it must be making the same amount at 45, having to support a family, and working at a shitty dead end job.

I'm happy seeing lots of people working what you call "dead end jobs."

It is those people who need porn to liven up their lives, not to mention the fact that if everyone were thinking like us then every twit and his dog would be running pay sites, free sites, doing design, writing, posting their foolishness on GFY etc etc et-fucking-cetera.

These "idiots with no dreams and no lives" as you brainiacs are calling them are surfers. Last time I checked we need more of them.

AaronM · 09-05-2004, 10:14 PM

BTW....Those retail sales jobs that I had paid me a base salary plus commissions. My commissions alone gave me close to a 6 figure income for 2 of those jobs.

One of them was at a chain of national electronic stores....Similar to what you would find in the TV department at Sears.

Spunky · 09-05-2004, 10:15 PM

Lies...I make 32k per year..and they have benefits

jayeff · 09-05-2004, 10:15 PM

Human beings are communal creatures, a condition which is only sustainable if the majority are content to be followers.

Even if we were not genetically programmed this way, imagine the chaos if everyone refused to do the mundane, even unpleasant jobs. Society needs ditch diggers more than it needs entrepreneurs.

At least you hinted that there were other values in life. For example, none of my father's pleasures in life had any connection with his work. Although he was a successful lawyer, he had very little ambition and didn't much enjoy his job. He left all thoughts of the office behind when he left each evening. But he was active in all sorts of areas from politics to gardening and who is to say he should have made other choices?

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
How do you know?

Maybe he is an Amway Diamond and works there so he can network to find more people for his food chain?

Nothing in my 30 minute conversation with him gave me the idea that he owned his own business, or even had plans to one day open his own business.

He knew a lot about TV's, and that was it. But you never know -- he could be networking for his pyramid...

malakajoe · 09-05-2004, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
I don't have a huge ego. I never stated that I'm better then this person.

My entire point of this thread was that if you're going to work for someone for ten + years, make something out of it instead of always taking shit from managers who keep changing every five years.

I will put it this way, and maybe you can understand.

When you move out of mommy and daddies house, and have to make ends meet...then comeback and comment. See, right now you have all the time to do whatever you want...you can fail, and still have a house to live under and food to eat. Someone that has to make ends meet themselves and/or has a family to support doesn't have that luxury all the time.

Ahhh..to be an ignorant youngster again.

Za Ha · 09-05-2004, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
I tell them that it is impossible for them, because they don't know how to realize their dreams.

Talk is very cheap.

robfantasy · 09-05-2004, 10:20 PM

hahah didnt u post a pic of someone elses ferrari...

you should put a fucking bullet in your head.

you dont know that guys situation and to make a comment like that makes you sound like a complete dumbass.

like aaron said he could be using that bullshit job as a means of gathering prospects or downlines for an MLM or some shit.

or he could be a webmaster or hustling or something else making a killing and keeping that side job for the benefits.

why would u make such a stupid comment about someone like that?

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by malakajoe
I will put it this way, and maybe you can understand.

......Someone that has to make ends meet themselves and/or has a family to support doesn't have that luxury all the time.

Ahhh..to be an ignorant youngster again.

I honestly don't believe this guy is having a blast making ends meet for his family. I believe that he is struggling very hard to bring in a paycheck.

Afterall, this person works for each paycheck. What happens if he is unable to work for a month? Sure, he'll get his two weeks of sick-pay, but after that? His family is left in the cold...

He is not doing what's best for his family. Sure, he's trying to make them money, but is he trying hard enough?

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by robfantasy
hahah didnt u post a pic of someone elses ferrari...

you should put a fucking bullet in your head.

you dont know that guys situation and to make a comment like that makes you sound like a complete dumbass.

like aaron said he could be using that bullshit job as a means of gathering prospects or downlines for an MLM or some shit.

or he could be a webmaster or hustling or something else making a killing and keeping that side job for the benefits.

why would u make such a stupid comment about someone like that?

If he was making good enough money hustling or webmastering then I'm sure he could afford his own benefits..

malakajoe · 09-05-2004, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
I honestly don't believe this guy is having a blast making ends meet for his family. I believe that he is struggling very hard to bring in a paycheck.

Afterall, this person works for each paycheck. What happens if he is unable to work for a month? Sure, he'll get his two weeks of sick-pay, but after that? His family is left in the cold...

He is not doing what's best for his family. Sure, he's trying to make them money, but is he trying hard enough?

So you do live with mommy and daddy still. As I said, you have no room to talk yet then.

Do you realize unfortunately most that support a family don't have a blast doing what they are doing? Is he supposed to quit his job and go back to school? How will his family survive?

Your comeback was a complete contradiction.

Za Ha · 09-05-2004, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
..my point about education is this: A person with a degree is more likely to be successfull in the long run compared to a high school graduate.

People in this country(USA) look at degree's and refrences rather then street smarts.

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B40 · 09-05-2004, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by RocHard

My point is you don't know this guy's full story. Maybe he won the lottery ten years ago and does this to keep himself busy.

That's what I was going to say. I knew a guy working the night shift at Timmies while working on his dentistry license or whatever it's called during the days. He came from another country and his license wasn't valid here, so he had to go back to school...

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by malakajoe
So you do live with mommy and daddy still. As I said, you have no room to talk yet then.

Do you realize unfortunately most that support a family don't have a blast doing what they are doing? Is he supposed to quit his job and go back to school? How will his family survive?

Your comeback was a complete contradiction.

No i don't live with 'mommy and daddy'...and after a certain age, you call them Mom and Dad, or mother and father..mommy and daddy is what children use.

He should have made an effort to achieve something before he turned 45 and started a family.

It's not fun for your kids to grow up in a household that is poor because of a selfish decision your parents make.

Za Ha · 09-05-2004, 10:27 PM

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Za Ha · 09-05-2004, 10:28 PM

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Do you want me to keep going down the list?
Cause according to your theory none of these ppl should be successful today because they dont have a "degree".

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
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Does this have ANYTHING to do with this sales person at Sears? He is not making 21 bil a year. He is not making the effort.

CDSmith · 09-05-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
No i don't live with 'mommy and daddy'...and after a certain age, you call them Mom and Dad, or mother and father..mommy and daddy is what children use.

He should have made an effort to achieve something before he turned 45 and started a family.

It's not fun for your kids to grow up in a household that is poor because of a selfish decision your parents make.

I thought you said you weren't judging the guy and thinking you're better than him? Now here you are judging the guy and insinuating that you're better than him.

Dood, you are not better than him, you are much much worse than him.

Now go realize your dreams.

robfantasy · 09-05-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
No i don't live with 'mommy and daddy'...and after a certain age, you call them Mom and Dad, or mother and father..mommy and daddy is what children use.

He should have made an effort to achieve something before he turned 45 and started a family.

It's not fun for your kids to grow up in a household that is poor because of a selfish decision your parents make.

im willing to bet you are someone who is broke with alot of ideas.

bringer · 09-05-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
Does this have ANYTHING to do with this sales person at Sears? He is not making 21 bil a year. He is not making the effort.

just drop it already. he may be happy where he is. if you feel this bad about it why do you offer to help pay for college classes so he can get a degree and make the big bucks?

Plan9 · 09-05-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
I'm happy seeing lots of people working what you call "dead end jobs."

It is those people who need porn to liven up their lives, not to mention the fact that if everyone were thinking like us then every twit and his dog would be running pay sites, free sites, doing design, writing, posting their foolishness on GFY etc etc et-fucking-cetera.

These "idiots with no dreams and no lives" as you brainiacs are calling them are surfers. Last time I checked we need more of them.

Ok, maybe I was a little harsh in my post in calling them dead end jobs. I do have respect for people that work jobs like this, I guess I just can't ever imagine myself doing something like that - not that there is anything wrong with it. Its just not for me

Za Ha · 09-05-2004, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
Does this have ANYTHING to do with this sales person at Sears? He is not making 21 bil a year. He is not making the effort.

That has everything to do with what you said.

..my point about education is this: A person with a degree is more likely to be successfull in the long run compared to a high school graduate.

Through this logic no one without a degree should be that rich.

Plan9 · 09-05-2004, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
How do you know?

Maybe he is an Amway Diamond and works there so he can network to find more people for his food chain?

Yeah, and the guy that took my order at McDonalds today is working there to pick up chicks

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by bringer
just drop it already. he may be happy where he is. if you feel this bad about it why do you offer to help pay for college classes so he can get a degree and make the big bucks?

Because Sears will happily pay his tuition if he decided to go to College. That is one of the benefits that he recieves.

He has the choice.

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
I thought you said you weren't judging the guy and thinking you're better than him? Now here you are judging the guy and insinuating that you're better than him.

Dood, you are not better than him, you are much much worse than him.

Now go realize your dreams.

I was simply commenting on someone elses reply...I was simply saying that he could have made the effort when he was young. If saying what this person could have done is judging him, then you win.

block · 09-05-2004, 10:39 PM

At least he has a job.... could be on welfare or something that would be much worse

AaronM · 09-05-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9
Yeah, and the guy that took my order at McDonalds today is working there to pick up chicks

Perhaps you should back up and read Rochards reply prior to posting this.

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:40 PM

I'm going to bed. Enough of this endless arguing.

AaronM · 09-05-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by block
At least he has a job.... could be on welfare or something that would be much worse

Worse? You mean like a Studio Cash sig whore?

Sears Salesman · 09-05-2004, 10:41 PM

for the record i am 39 years old. maybe my age shows because of the stress and immense effort i put into building my side buisnesses. if you sir would gladly come back tomorrow, i will be more than happy to show you some of my ibill and stats remote screen shots. maybe i will be nice and forgive your disrespectfullness and give you a discount on your beautiful new 13 inch tv

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Worse? You mean like a Studio Cash sig whore?

Hmm...aren't you a sig whore too?

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Sears Salesman
for the record i am 39 years old. maybe my age shows because of the stress and immense effort i put into building my side buisnesses. if you sir would gladly come back tomorrow, i will be more than happy to show you some of my ibill and stats remote screen shots. maybe i will be nice and forgive your disrespectfullness and give you a discount on your beautiful new 13 inch tv

OK.

robfantasy · 09-05-2004, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
I was simply commenting on someone elses reply...I was simply saying that he could have made the effort when he was young. If saying what this person could have done is judging him, then you win.

another stupid comment, he could have ran his own business and got fucked over from a frivolous lawsuit or some shit ..

get out of the way of thinking that everyone has a fucking choice in life.. life is unpredictable, you have to do what you have to do to survive. roll with the fucking punches.

malakajoe · 09-05-2004, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
No i don't live with 'mommy and daddy'...and after a certain age, you call them Mom and Dad, or mother and father..mommy and daddy is what children use.

He should have made an effort to achieve something before he turned 45 and started a family.

It's not fun for your kids to grow up in a household that is poor because of a selfish decision your parents make.

I said mommy and daddy because you still are a kid.

Maybe he lost his his life savings in an investment. Maybe he tried his own company and it failed. Even the smart, most intelligent lose everything in investments sometimes...or fail in starting a company. Happens every day.

So you have no place to talk.

Word of advice. Just stop while you are behind.

AaronM · 09-05-2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
Hmm...aren't you a sig whore too?

Yep...I make $8,500.00 per month from mine.

What do you get with your little ref code?

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by malakajoe
I said mommy and daddy because you still are a kid.

Maybe he lost his his life savings in an investment. Maybe he tried his own company and it failed. Even the smart, most intelligent lose everything in investments sometimes...or fail in starting a company. Happens every day.

So you have no place to talk.

Word of advice. Just stop while you are behind.

So he should quit because he failed once?

malakajoe · 09-05-2004, 10:45 PM

iwantchixx · 09-05-2004, 10:46 PM

Losing an argument on the internet = shameful

Changing his stance on things to try and win = retarted

Using "this is gfy" as an excuse for the idiotic things he says = PRICELESS!

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Yep...I make $8,500.00 per month from mine.

What do you get with your little ref code?

It doesn't matter how much either one of us make on our sigs. Just because you get paid a big sum of money doesn't mean that your sig 'whorness' is justified.

They way you said it seemed like it's a bad thing to sell your sig.

Plan9 · 09-05-2004, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Perhaps you should back up and read Rochards reply prior to posting this.

Hey now...who said I was kidding?!

cornhusker · 09-05-2004, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
I don't post galleries...whatever gave you that idea?

I never once said I'm better then this guy. My thoughts are that I don't want to be in his shoes when i'm his age.

America, where oppurtunities are at every corner, should not be wasted or overlooked.

Before you make such highly critical statements, regarding one's education, please ATLEAST appear as if you've got an education of your own.

What are these "oppurtunies" you speak of?

Idiot.

malakajoe · 09-05-2004, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
So he should quit because he failed once?

God you are ignorant.

People lose everything sometimes. But they still have a family to support.

When I was growing up my oldest brothers friend had an uncle who worked 3 full-time jobs to support his family. They still lived in Mexico and he sent almost all the money back to them. He slept maybe 3 hours a day, on a good day. At that point, I respect that man more than anyone else I had ever met in my life.

AaronM · 09-05-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
It doesn't matter how much either one of us make on our sigs. Just because you get paid a big sum of money doesn't mean that your sig 'whorness' is justified.

And just because the Sears guy is trying to sell you a TV does not mean that he makes less than you.

Go to bed, kid.

Plan9 · 09-05-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by malakajoe
I said mommy and daddy because you still are a kid.

Maybe he lost his his life savings in an investment. Maybe he tried his own company and it failed. Even the smart, most intelligent lose everything in investments sometimes...or fail in starting a company. Happens every day.

So you have no place to talk.

Word of advice. Just stop while you are behind.

Or maybe he just loves selling TVs!

malakajoe · 09-05-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by iwantchixx
Losing an argument on the internet = shameful

Changing his stance on things to try and win = retarted

Using "this is gfy" as an excuse for the idiotic things he says = PRICELESS!

This is the best fucking post I have ever seen on GFY.

Kudos to you!

malakajoe · 09-05-2004, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
And just because the Sear guy is trying to sell you a TV does not mean that he makes less than you.

Go to bed, kid.

You forgot to tell him to have mommy tuck him in and read him a bedtime story.

Sears Salesman · 09-05-2004, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
I don't have a huge ego. I never stated that I'm better then this person.

My entire point of this thread was that if you're going to work for someone for ten + years, make something out of it instead of always taking shit from managers who keep changing every five years.

I started out as a janitor. I was always in the electronics area playing with the nifty gadgets and watching tv during my breaks and after my shifts were over. I started learning more about the products and later asked my manager if I could try working as a salesman on a probationary status. My english had improved a bit since I came to the US and my manager was nice enough to give me a chance. Now I am one of the top salesmen in our region and I owe it all to my former manager for giving me a chance. Thank you Mr. Salabadad

Rhino22 · 09-05-2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
And just because the Sear guy is trying to sell you a TV does not mean that he makes less than you.

Go to bed, kid.

If he enjoys what he has been doing for the last ten years, then more power to him. I rest my case. Reading all of your replies has shined some light on my ignorant views.

But if he started that job with the mindset of NEVER climbing the ladder at Sears, then I don't see what the point of it was.

He can make money at any job, but if he is oging to dedicate ten years of his life and know everything to know about what he does, then he should at least try for a promotion and make a few extra bucks.

iwantchixx · 09-05-2004, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by Rhino22
So he should quit because he failed once?

Why do you think this guy just gave up and chose a meaningless life? Holy fuck you are a complete idiot. Typical of your demographic though. Ever thought that maybe he is using this job to fund a comeback? Even thought he got laid off from a big corporation that he worked at for 25 years and now nobody will hire him or take him seriously because of his age except for Sears? Not everyone with "lesser" lives than yours chose the path they took. A lot of the times one's experiences just lead up to where they are.

I was a fucking janitor for almost 4 years. Are you going to say that I just gave up and quit and chose a lesser life?

If so, I got fucking news for you asshole
I had huge anxiety issues and could not deal with the public due to a pretty bad stuttering problem. I was not be able to go into classrooms without anxiety attacks and social phobia due to the fear of having to communicate and be ridiculed at one point. I left school as an outcast due to my anxiety and was jobless for a few years. Now that I am over that shit and found ways to deal with it I had to start from rock bottom cleaning and earning a living to work my way up the financial ladder and gain experience working. I then got into adult and am loving it. I have set goals, ideas and a long term plan to make myself independent financially. Right now I am working for someone else doing mostly grunt work that most of you would have no idea how to do and are too damn lazy to do. I don't think that I "gave up" or have a "lesser life" for doing so.
Ever thought that maybe this Sears salesman has had similar experiences to this? maybe he fell off a ladder and is working his way back up.

You are an absolute ignorant prick. People like you are the reason people need thick skin and the reason people working in "lesser" jobs are grumpy and down on themselves.

robfantasy · 09-05-2004, 10:58 PM

he could be using that job to push drugs just like one of my friends who works as a pizza delivery driver.

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AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	BTW....Those retail sales jobs that I had paid me a base salary plus commissions. My commissions alone gave me close to a 6 figure income for 2 of those jobs. One of them was at a chain of national electronic stores....Similar to what you would find in the TV department at Sears.

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jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Human beings are communal creatures, a condition which is only sustainable if the majority are content to be followers. Even if we were not genetically programmed this way, imagine the chaos if everyone refused to do the mundane, even unpleasant jobs. Society needs ditch diggers more than it needs entrepreneurs. At least you hinted that there were other values in life. For example, none of my father's pleasures in life had any connection with his work. Although he was a successful lawyer, he had very little ambition and didn't much enjoy his job. He left all thoughts of the office behind when he left each evening. But he was active in all sorts of areas from politics to gardening and who is to say he should have made other choices?

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Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	Lawrence Ellison Source: Oracle Net Worth: $18.7 bil Country of citizenship: United States Residence: Redwood Shores, CA, United States Industry: Software Marital Status: divorced , 2 children University of Illinois, Drop Out Source Do you want me to keep going down the list? Cause according to your theory none of these ppl should be successful today because they dont have a "degree".

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Rhino22 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 2,288	I'm going to bed. Enough of this endless arguing.

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iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Losing an argument on the internet = shameful Changing his stance on things to try and win = retarted Using "this is gfy" as an excuse for the idiotic things he says = PRICELESS!