Giorgio_Xo

It is my hope that a Federal Grand Jury some where will have the balls to indict Bush for desertion.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...3&sid=96378798


WASHINGTON - Documents that should have been written to explain gaps in President Bush (news - web sites)'s Texas Air National Guard service are missing from the military records released about his service in 1972 and 1973, according to regulations and outside experts.


For example, Air National Guard regulations at the time required commanders to write an investigative report for the Air Force when Bush missed his annual medical exam in 1972. The regulations also required commanders to confirm in writing that Bush received counseling after missing five months of drills.


No such records have been made public and the government told The Associated Press in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit that it has released all records it can find.


Outside experts suggest that National Guard commanders may not have produced documentation required by their own regulations.


"One of the downfalls back then in the National Guard was that not everyone wanted to be chief of staff of the Air Force. They just wanted to fly or maintain airplanes. So the record keeping could have been better," said retired Maj. Gen. Paul A. Weaver Jr., a former head of the Air National Guard. He said the documents may not have been kept in the first place.


Challenging the government's declaration that no more documents exist, the AP identified five categories of records that should have been generated after Bush skipped his pilot's physical and missed five months of training.


"Each of these actions by any member of the National Guard should have generated the creation of many documents that have yet to be produced," AP lawyer David Schulz wrote the Justice Department (news - web sites) Aug. 26.


White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said there were no other documents to explain discrepancies in Bush's files.


Military service during the Vietnam War has become an issue in the presidential election as both candidates debate the current wars in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites).


Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) commanded a Navy Swift boat in Vietnam and won five medals, including a Silver Star. But his heroism has been challenged in ads by some veterans who support Bush.


The president served stateside in the Air National Guard during Vietnam. Democrats have accused him of shirking his Guard service and getting favored treatment as the son of a prominent Washington figure.


The AP talked to experts unaffiliated with either campaign who have reviewed Bush's files for missing documents. They said it was not unusual for guard commanders to ignore deficiencies by junior officers such as Bush. But they said missing a physical exam, which caused him to be grounded, was not common.


"It's sort of like a code of honor that you didn't go DNF (duty not including flying)," said retired Air Force Col. Leonard Walls, who flew 181 combat missions over Vietnam. "There was a lot of pride in keeping combat-ready status."


Bush has said he fulfilled all his obligations. He was in the Texas Air National Guard from 1968 to 1973 and was trained to fly F-102 fighters.


"I'm proud of my service," Bush told a rally last weekend in Lima, Ohio.


Records of Bush's service have significant gaps, starting in 1972. Bush has said he left Texas that year to work on the unsuccessful Senate campaign in Alabama of family friend Winton Blount.


The five kinds of missing files are:

_A report from the Texas Air National Guard to Bush's local draft board certifying that Bush remained in good standing. The government has released copies of those DD Form 44 documents for Bush for 1971 and earlier years but not for 1972 or 1973. Records from Bush's draft board in Houston do not show his draft status changed after he joined the guard in 1968. The AP obtained the draft board records Aug. 27 under the Freedom of Information Act.

_Records of a required investigation into why Bush lost flight status. When Bush skipped his 1972 physical, regulations required his Texas commanders to "direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination," according to the Air Force manual at the time. An investigative report was supposed to be forwarded "with the command recommendation" to Air Force officials "for final determination."

Bush's spokesmen have said he skipped the exam because he knew he would be doing desk duty in Alabama. But Bush was required to take the physical by the end of July 1972, more than a month before he won final approval to train in Alabama.

_A written acknowledgment from Bush that he had received the orders grounding him. His Texas commanders were ordered to have Bush sign such a document; but none has been released.

_Reports of formal counseling sessions Bush was required to have after missing more than three training sessions. Bush missed at least five months' worth of National Guard training in 1972. No documents have surfaced indicating Bush was counseled or had written authorization to skip that training or make it up later. Commanders did have broad discretion to allow guardsmen to make up for missed training sessions, said Weaver and Lawrence Korb, Pentagon (news - web sites) personnel chief during the Reagan administration from 1981 to 1985.

"If you missed it, you could make it up," said Korb, who now works for the Center for American Progress, which supports Kerry.

_A signed statement from Bush acknowledging he could be called to active duty if he did not promptly transfer to another guard unit after leaving Texas. The statement was required as part of a Vietnam-era crackdown on no-show guardsmen. Bush was approved in September 1972 to train with the Alabama unit, more than four months after he left Texas.

Bush was approved approval to train in September, October and November 1972 with the Alabama Air National Guard's 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group. The only record tying Bush to that unit is a dental exam at the group's Montgomery base in January 1973. No records have been released giving Bush permission to train with the 187th after November 1972.

Walls, the Air Force combat veteran, was assigned to the 187th in 1972 and 1973 to train its pilots to fly the F-4 Phantom. Walls and more than a dozen other members of the 187th say they never saw Bush. One member of the unit, retired Lt. Col. John Calhoun, has said he remembers Bush showing up for training with the 187th.

Pay records show Bush was credited for training in January, April and May 1973; other files indicate that service was outside Texas.

A May 1973 yearly evaluation from Bush's Texas unit gives the future president no ratings and stated Bush had not been seen at the Texas base since April 1972. In a directive from June 29, 1973, an Air Force personnel official pressed Bush's unit for information about his Alabama service.

"This officer should have been reassigned in May 1972," wrote Master Sgt. Daniel P. Harkness, "since he no longer is training in his AFSC (Air Force Service Category, or job title) or with his unit of assignment."

Then-Maj. Rufus G. Martin replied Nov. 12, 1973: "Not rated for the period 1 May 72 through 30 Apr 73. Report for this period not available for administrative reasons."

By then, Texas Air National Guard officials had approved Bush's request to leave the guard to attend Harvard Business School; his last days of duty were in July 1973.

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Rich

Bush has committed a lot more serious crimes much more recently that he should go to jail for.

If Kerry wins there will be some serious investigations into the practices of this secret administration.

Expect Bush 1/Reagan era style trials and investigations. If Bush looses expect him to bring charges on people himself, especially high level people involved in the prison scandal, and then pardon them on Christmas. Kenny Lay will get a pardon too, that's probably the only reason they brought charges.

Corleone

Long text but this fucker shoudl go to jail for 100 years thats for sure

Webby

If it was not for that "offense" - he should be in a jail cell now for insider dealing.

Tho he was bailed out and "covered" by Daddy's friends. In any other country he would be imprisoned years ago for fraudulent dealing.

But instead he was "given" the governorship of the State of Texas which he left in a fucked up financial state as well.

Much like he is succeeding in doing with the whole of the US now :-)

69pornlinks

, there's a greater chance that PIB will skin gfy next than bush going to jail for anything

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Giorgio_Xo

All it takes is a brave U.S. Attorney from a liberal district court.

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directfiesta

Most americans don't read.... ( neither do Bush... )

So he just has to walk like John Wayne, wave to the tv cameras, and say that he has military experience and that everything is great....

That's what americans want to hear, even if it is false ...

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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

directfiesta

Then he would be considered as a " terrorist " and jailed.

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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

mahoney

uh oh and you won't be able to bribe the cops like you did for me in mexico

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Dead13

No it takes money. If Democrats were as hateful as Republicans it would be easy enough to force the appoitment of a Liberally paid off "indepentend counsel" such as Ken Starr. Exactly what the reps did to Clinton after the real independent counsel already found no wrong doing by Hillary or Bill regarding Whitewater, in only two weeks of investigating.

Money brought Ken Starr in, money that came right from Bush 1's top contributors that were pissed of about losing in 92, and Democrats SHOULD be doing the same thing right now. Even though two wrongs do not make a right, Bush needs to be brought to justice that is for sure.

If we cant find someone with the balls to take on the President because it is their sworn duty to uphold, we need to find some greedy asshole who will do it for money. And I do not think it would be to hard to find some greedy asshole in the ranks of U.S. Attorneys!

TheWildcard

I love weed.

vitty

Maybe that's why he will not win...

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zentz

yeah, but there is nothing we can do about it

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DavieVegas

he should just be shot and the world should just move on!

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Webby

Irony is... I doubt that will happen unless something is so blatant that it "demands" action.

Yea.. it is probably the most "secretive" admin currently around, - least in the western world, but at the end of the day, - for various reasons - it may be better to "wipe it off" as a bad joke.

Personally, (my "unbalanced" side), - I'd like to see the lot blown open and several trials, but I ain't gonna be the person that would have to deal with others who were republican senators under this admins term of office - many of whom are reasonable and honorable guys and not involved in this shit.

Tho, think this is definately "watershed time" for the US and I doubt any more of the current admin's conduct will be tolerated by others - especially outside the US. There is a load of "damage control" needing managed.

Mr Dickovitch

Go arrest him. Just show up there with some handcuffs. It should work out good for you.

Giorgio_Xo

Weed is fun.

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Giorgio_Xo

You realize that you can now go to jail for that comment. Suggesting that the President needs to die is a Federal crime.

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Webby

Giorgio_Xo:

That is kinda classic, eh?

Even got a law covering the President's ass!! Even worse if that law actually states that "suggesting" someone kill the bastard makes it a "Federal crime". Breathing without permission will be illegal soon....

It's a long story and been discussed to death - but there would be a LOAD more people alive on this planet today if Bush was never near any "house of government". Think on it :-)

Presidents.. same with the US, have "immunity" from their actions during the term of office. I can think of several who have waived this immunity and are willing to stand up in any court and account for themselves. Tho never heard Bush come near any such a statement - meaningful :-)

Dead13

HEY YOU IN THE MIDDLE THERE, STOP! CITIZEN'S ARREST!!!

Webby

Dead13:

It would be kinda funny - especially if the "paperwork" was there to support it!