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Twenty hostage-takers reported killed

BESLAN, Russia (CNN) -- Hundreds of people held hostage at a school in southern Russia fled to safety Friday, but scores are reported dead as pitched battles continue between troops and hostage-takers.

Reports said the hostages may have numbered as many as 1,200 and that 70 percent of them were children.

It was not clear whether several children and others, who were being held by a remnant of the hostage-taker hours after the school was stormed, were still in captivity.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ool/index.html

Sarma

is saw that... Some people are going to hell

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i like how when CNN gets the story it goes from 200 to 1200

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BigWebRev

fucked up

loverboy

heroes are born in such crisis, pity for those who lost their lives

Just_Dave

that is some messed up shit

loverboy

Several of the hostage-takers fled following the raid. However, there are some reports that many of the suspects may have changed out of their militants gear into civilian clothing, further complicating Russian forces' efforts to hunt them down.

Manowar

News x 10 = CNN

Joe Citizen

You reap what you sow.

Garou

it was a big luck and professionality of the SWAT team that so many hostages stayed alive...

loverboy

SWAT? or your mean Russian Forces,and the Raid was not planned but the troops had been ready for a long siege.

Children who survived said they were denied food and water and had to take off their clothes because of the heat. Some boys said that because they had no water, they had to drink their own urine.

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KRL

Its amazing how under 100,000 barbaric Islamic extremists are turning the billion decent Arabs and other Islamic people into the most despised and hated cultures on earth.

InsaneMidget

What the hell happens to these kids clothes? Seen a few pics now and kids are half naked.

Lykos

Damn,that's really fucked up

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loverboy

as ived said above, children who survived took off their clothes because of the heat. Some boys said that because they had no water, they had to drink their own urine.

koreanbbque

this is just crazy go nutz.

Terrorists

It boggles my mind to think that anyone would think anything constructive would come out of doing something retarded like this.

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Roger

For you, it's fine for the Russians to occupy Chechenia and slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians in there. But the moment a Chechen starts thinking about terrorism, it suddenly becomes there fault?

robfantasy

This pisses me off so much.. who ever was behind this atrocity will burn in hell

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Gheenz

You've got a point, but in no sense can terrorism like this be justified.

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Orga

Bullshit, Chechenia is a part of Russia at least 300 years.
War started at 1992.

Roger

No, it's not, they're criminals but I certainly expect people who grow up under an occupation between the daily kidnappings and ethnic cleansing to be not-so-sane. The fact that Russian soldiers are way underpaid doesn't help matters at all.

The cycle needs to be broken. The terrorists should be stopped and the Chechen civilians have to be seen as partners rather than enemies.

jukeboxfrank

Ya I am sure the kids in that school are to blame. Idiot
Maybe if you are lucky they will kill you next to right some greater wrong.

axelcat

sad very sad thats all Im going to say

Roger

War started in the early 18th century and Chechenia got incorporated into Russia in the 1870's. And then in 1936, Stalin deported a million Chechens to Siberia.

1992, after the collaps of the Soviet Union, Chechenia wanted to be more independant but Russia refused and it goes on and on like that.

Rxxx

So for you its ok for USA to occupy Iraq and slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians there? And did you see how Russians occupied and slaughtered civilians? So where are the thousands of bodies? Where are the proofs of your bullshit?

Do you know how many Russians did chechens slaughter in 90-99? Do you know with your brainwashed head whom in 99 did chechen army attack? Do you know how many billions of dollars Russia spent since 1994 to build houses, schools etc. in Chechnya and provide them with food? Do you know how many mines did that civilians land under cover of night?

crowkid

I quietly wait anxiously, until the day (and right now it looks like soon) that the Russian government openly admits they are at war with Muslim extremists, and join the US, for one motherfucker of a team, to battle these scum and wipe them off the face of this earth.


Terrorist symphathizers and appeasers (and also people who will respond with "But George Bush kills babies with bombs") please respond with your predictable cute comments below :-)

Rxxx

Do you have a clue that you are talking absolute bullshit? Stalin deported chechens not in 1936, but in 1944, and do you ever have a clue why? Becouse they were supporting Hitler, and were fighting with nazis against red army.


in 1996 Chechnya got total independent, do you have a clue what happened next?

Roger

No it's not, but what the US is doing in Iraq doesn't even compare to what's being done to Chechens. Actually Bush himself used to talk, during his presidential campaign, about the atrocities committed by Russia against the Chechens.

Is that why the unemployment level is at 76%?
All I'm saying is that many Chechens have become criminals and Russia certainly has something to do with it.

Genocide Watch info.

The killings and the abuses need to be stopped from both sides, otherwise it ain't gonna work.

Roger

Yes it was 1944, my mistake, I mistyped.
Yes the separatists staged a rebellion to get there country back.

Yeah, a terrorist attack occured in 1999. The terrorists wheren't just gonna disappear like that. The terrorists after all the despicable things they do, don't become suddenly all peacefull just because a treaty is signed. It's too late for them, they need to be hunted down and taken out without disturbing the peace process so that future generations won't be attracted into terrorism.

I'm just trying to figure out an actual solution. why the anger?

Rxxx

What the Iraq is doing to US doesnt even compare what is Chechnya doing to Russia. Remeber that. We dont kill chechen civilians becouse of our free will. We are defending our country how we can and with the money we have. They are started war against us. And no fucking american propaganda will stop us from doing that. We are not going to sit and see how they are blasting us in our houses.

Roger

But it's not Chechenya that took over your country. You're the ones who took over Chechenya.

So what are you going to do? Keep killing more of them and them killing more of you? Kill the terrorists but don't go thinking that all the Chechens are enemies that need to be killed.

You also have underpaid soldiers who sell weapons to the terrorists. A solution to this would be more than welcome, or else the terrorists will hit you harder and harder everytime.

Rxxx

Talking about an ordinary american propaganda about chechen genocide really makes me angry. Do you know what they were doing through that 3 years and what size of army did they have? There were evil chaos in Checnya. There was one of the biggest terrorist camp in the world. We were doing what we could with our army, resources and money. But its really funny to hear american comments about violence, when you bombarded civilians cities of Iraq and Serbia, countries that did nothing to you. I imagine what would you do if that countries sent troops in US? Hiroshima?

Rxxx

We didnt take anyone. Chechnya is a part of Russia. 1st of all if someone is attacking us and planning terracts, no doubts we will keep killing them. We are living in law in Russia, same as lawful chechen people. We are not killing them, they are supporting us in killing bandits and arab mercenaries. In the school terrorists havnt killed us, they just killed ossetin and chechen children there, did you know that?

Roger

You seem like a smart guy. At least you give good arguments.

Yeah that's what I'm saying, take the terrorists out but it's not a good idea to oppress all Chechens because of the terrorists.
For instance, here's what I see in documentaries about Chechenya. I see Chechens dancing around happily everytime they get to work because they arrived safely. I see some Chechen getting kidnapped by Russian soldiers who ask for a ransom from his family. I see mercenaries patrolling the streets of Chechenya and so on. Is what I'm seeing wrong?

And no, I'm not from the US.

RoTT

Really that many

Rxxx

Russian soldiers kidnapping chechens are the same bandits as chechen terrorists. If they were caught they would be jailed. Of course there are still criminals in the goverment, but the criminal is not our law, instead of terrorists. What mercs are you talking i dont know, the streets are patrolling by russian soldiers, who are died everyday there, defending chechen people from terrorists. Didnt you think what are they dying there for?

NaughtyAlysha

Extremely sad. I hate hearing news like this.

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loverboy

wow, death reached 322

Jill_J

very sad news... innocent people die because of the stupid politics...

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Jill_J

330 now...
and it will increase because 260 people got lost and 448 are in hospitals (69 among them are in grave condition)...

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loverboy

so far this is the worst hostage situation that i heard of that caused the life of too many innocent civilians.

i partly blame the authorities in-charge for they allow such thing to happen. they could have prevented this deaths.

MetaMan

how the fuck can u prevent a group a crazy fucks with bombs running into a school?

these people are fucking crazy they do not care, u cant stop people like this.

block

Its messed up... why kill a bunch of kids

Ar3s

damn its realy sad!

just a punk

I think he is talking about both SWAT and simple soldiers. All of them did everything they can. Lots of them were killed saving kids. One SWAT officer from elite Alfa team was shot in back when he was carrying 2 children in his hands. He is dead, but fortunately the kids are survived. Another Alfa soldier has been shot in head also while hi carried out a kid. The last time I heard about that man he was still alive but he was placed into reanimation... Damn, these men are heroes. Whey didn't plan to storm when terrorists blasted one of their bombs in the school.

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just a punk

Please don't mix these things. It's like we'll try to justify terrorist attacks in Iraqi and Afghanistan. I.e. if I just replace a few words in your post to make it look as follows: "For you, it's fine for the Americans to occupy Iraq (Afghanistan) and slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians in there. But the moment an Iraqi (Afghan) starts thinking about terrorism, it suddenly becomes there fault?"

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Ray@TastyDollars

CNN TV repoted 326 killed. LOTS were children...fucking sad world we live in and im afraid it will get even more sad

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just a punk

Correct.

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loverboy

running thorugh emotions when i did that.. anyways, its just so pity in so many places, why in the hell they choose a school. these are damn fucking kids who have lived mostly their lives in the playground.

this is why i say there is so much violence the world we lived in today.

still, the victims families will surely cry for justice and the fact that from all the hostages takers, only 3 are left, can we still say justice can be served to all the 300+ who lost there lives just because of a political war...

RIP