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TurboAngel · 08-30-2004, 09:18 AM

They are good to us!

Ice · 08-30-2004, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
Absolutely nothing. My A.D.D. is kicking hard today. Sorry

Stramm · 08-30-2004, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by 50 Cent
it is standard practice to assign a fresh ip to a client

Sure man, cause there are virtually unlimited IPs available. Now ask Fortune City to give you your dedicated IP

Juicy D. Links · 08-30-2004, 09:34 AM

I am about to order 4 more boxes from Webair.

Couldnt be happier

seeric · 08-30-2004, 09:35 AM

people need to read threads bfore just jumping to the end and posting

Juicy D. Links · 08-30-2004, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe
It's your own mistake for NOT updating/switching DNS servers prior to your service going offline.

You're the idiot who doesnt know how to properly do a server switch and fucked it up..

You should have been running the site on BOTH MACHINES while you updated the DNS servers so that regargless of which IP they went to they would have gotten the right site. Once the world sees the new DNS changes is when you can get rid of the old machine.

ALL THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE YOUR SERVICE WITH WEBAIR WAS FINISHED.

exactly

50 Cent · 08-30-2004, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Stramm
Sure man, cause there are virtually unlimited IPs available. Now ask Fortune City to give you your dedicated IP

Well I agree there is not enough ips for everyone to get a fresh one, however there should be at least 90-120 days grace period before assigning it to a new client.

ALSO it IS webair responsibility to remove the entry from DNS if a customer leaves.

chodadog · 08-30-2004, 09:36 AM

PlatinumPimp = PlatinumOwn3d.

And he did it all on his own.

Juicy D. Links · 08-30-2004, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by 50 Cent
Well I agree there is not enough ips for everyone to get a fresh one, however there should be at least 90-120 days grace period before assigning it to a new client.

ALSO it IS webair responsibility to remove the entry from DNS if a customer leaves.

post the video of yo had of Like Whoa again please when you followed Nick. That was classic.

sarettah · 08-30-2004, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by 50 Cent
Well I agree there is not enough ips for everyone to get a fresh one, however there should be at least 90-120 days grace period before assigning it to a new client.

ALSO it IS webair responsibility to remove the entry from DNS if a customer leaves.

Webair did remove the entry (as webair has already posted). It takes a while for those changes to propogate and unless there is an entry to replace it, all the other nameservers that have the info will still return the last good ip in lots of cases.

Plus, it looks to me (and what I am seeing might not be up to date because of the aforementioned propogation problems) that PP still has the domain pointing to the porn ip on the nameservers he switched to.

Here is the return on a request for the "A" record from the nameservers he switched to:

www.fuji-ya.nlLOOKUP
;Question:;resp 5897 opcode:00 aa:1 tc:0 rd:1 ra:0 rcode:0 QD:1 AN:1 NS:3 AR:3
www.fuji-ya.nl. 0S A 0.0.0.0 ; rtt:75(netlen:28)
;Answer:
www.fuji-ya.nl. 5M A 69.42.75.204 ; rtt:56(netlen:24)
;NS:
fuji-ya.nl. 5M NS dns1.interip.nl.
5M NS dns2.interip.nl.
5M NS dns3.interip.net.
;Additional:
dns1.interip.nl. 5M A 81.4.76.10 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:144
dns2.interip.nl. 5M A 81.4.76.20 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:143
dns3.interip.net. 5M A 195.128.185.96 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:148(netlen:24)
;NOERROR AUTH NORECURSE 7 answers.

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As you can see, the new name servers are apparently still returning the old ip. Now, this could be old cached data that interip originally pulled from webairs nameservers, but it is more likely that PP went in, switched the nameservers and pointed them at the old host because of a lack of understanding of DNS.

Since the nameserver will still return an ip of 69.42.75.204, anyone looking for the site is going to end up at that ip.

Another note, it has been conventional wisdom in this biz to not run a mainstream site off an adult sever because of this kind of problem along with email blacklistings, SE associations, Porn filters and the like. If you choose to host a mainstream site off a server that allows adult hosting, you have to be extremely careful. The conventional wisdom is that mainstream and adult don't mix. Unless you know exactly what the fuck you are doing you should not be hosting mainsream sites that you don't want associated with porn on a server that allows adult, period.

chodadog · 08-30-2004, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by sarettah
Webair did remove the entry (as webair has already posted). It takes a while for those changes to propogate and unless there is an entry to replace it, all the other nameservers that have the info will still return the last good ip in lots of cases.

Plus, it looks to me (and what I am seeing might not be up to date because of the aforementioned propogation problems) that PP still has the domain pointing to the porn ip on the nameservers he switched to.

Here is the return on a request for the "A" record from the nameservers he switched to:

www.fuji-ya.nlLOOKUP
;Question:;resp 5897 opcode:00 aa:1 tc:0 rd:1 ra:0 rcode:0 QD:1 AN:1 NS:3 AR:3
www.fuji-ya.nl. 0S A 0.0.0.0 ; rtt:75(netlen:28)
;Answer:
www.fuji-ya.nl. 5M A 69.42.75.204 ; rtt:56(netlen:24)
;NS:
fuji-ya.nl. 5M NS dns1.interip.nl.
5M NS dns2.interip.nl.
5M NS dns3.interip.net.
;Additional:
dns1.interip.nl. 5M A 81.4.76.10 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:144
dns2.interip.nl. 5M A 81.4.76.20 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:143
dns3.interip.net. 5M A 195.128.185.96 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:148(netlen:24)
;NOERROR AUTH NORECURSE 7 answers.

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As you can see, the new name servers are apparently still returning the old ip. Now, this could be old cached data that interip originally pulled from webairs nameservers, but it is more likely that PP went in, switched the nameservers and pointed them at the old host because of a lack of understanding of DNS.

Since the nameserver will still return an ip of 69.42.75.204, anyone looking for the site is going to end up at that ip.

Another note, it has been conventional wisdom in this biz to not run a mainstream site off an adult sever because of this kind of problem along with email blacklistings, SE associations, Porn filters and the like. If you choose to host a mainstream site off a server that allows adult hosting, you have to be extremely careful. The conventional wisdom is that mainstream and adult don't mix. Unless you know exactly what the fuck you are doing you should not be hosting mainsream sites that you don't want associated with porn on a server that allows adult, period.

Just quoting this so Platinum Pimp can read it a second time. Maybe he'll finally realise that he's wrong and owes Webair an apology.

Serge Litehead · 08-30-2004, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by 50 Cent
I agree. It is 100% webair's fault. If I was a new customer I would not want to be on the same ip that some porn site was before me, it is standard practice to assign a fresh ip to a client, why? well what if a customer before got this ip blacklisted by search engines, then the new customer's domain is blacklisted on search engines and he is loosing traffic + Webair should have removed the entry from the name servers to start with.

And all these webair whores STFU, I would like to see your reaction if this happend to you. This is fucked up enough to go to court IMHO.

im sorry to say but you're an idiot who doesnt have a clue wtf is going on here. just bunch of random bs

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
WTF does this have to do with this issue? Next.

ROFL ... some ppl just like to spam

sarettah · 08-30-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by 50 Cent
And all these webair whores STFU, I would like to see your reaction if this happend to you. This is fucked up enough to go to court IMHO.

And BTW, I am NOT a webair whore (or anyone else's for that matter) I am extremely happy with my servers at M3 and my personal servers in my basement.

I know NOONE at webair and know nothing about how great/good/average/poor/bad/ or evil they are.

This is completely a matter of someone who is clueless fucking up and then blaming someone else.

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2004, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
You think so?

Ok let me just spill it and see how much I get owned.

A close friend of mine runs a japanese restaurant here in holland which I hosted at webair.com. Well I stopped hosting there and ofcourse the server got shut down.

Well apparently when you visit www.fuji-ya.nl it should be down, but no these fuckers just had to redirect it to a porn site. My friend got numerous calls from clients who were shocked This is not a way to do business.

I am having the name servers changed as I speak, thanks a lot webair.

OMG OMG ... I'd be sooooo mad

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2004, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by kmanrox
How are you going to stop hosting somewhere and let them keep control over your DNS servers? You're an idiot. And an unprofessional idiot with a big suck.

Hrmm I'd expect them to be smarter then redirecting my old site to a porn site ... it could have been a religious site etc

notjoe · 08-30-2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by sarettah
And BTW, I am NOT a webair whore (or anyone else's for that matter) I am extremely happy with my servers at M3 and my personal servers in my basement.

I know NOONE at webair and know nothing about how great/good/average/poor/bad/ or evil they are.

This is completely a matter of someone who is clueless fucking up and then blaming someone else.

Thanks for spamming M3 Servers here.. That is one service i will never EVER consider using now.

notjoe · 08-30-2004, 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
I am about to order 4 more boxes from Webair.

Couldnt be happier

I got two there now with over 1TB worth of storage and 20mbit/sec of bandwidth which i pay for...

I couldnt be happier..

The opinions expressed above are my own. I have not been compensated in any way/shape/form.

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2004, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
Ok. Are you going to agree with me that this should have never happened (my buddy got a lot of clients who were pissed off, probably costed him a bit of bizz) , even though I did not change my nameservers?

It's not 100 % their fault ... but it should have never happened

notjoe · 08-30-2004, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
It's not 100 % their fault ... but it should have never happened

WTF? It's 100% PP's fault. How can you hold webair responsible for the actions (or lack of) of someone else?

He is the one who forgot to change DNS servers. He is the one who didnt update zone files. He is the one who terminated his service agreement with webair.

All webair is guilty of is getting a new customer online.

I bet PP didnt even bother to contract webair to update their zone files for the domain so that it would go to the new IP.

sarettah · 08-30-2004, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe
Thanks for spamming M3 Servers here.. That is one service i will never EVER consider using now.

lolol...If you think that is SPAM, you have a lot to fucking learn. I was merely pointing out that I am not a WEBAIR customer or spokesman.

So, now mentioning any company name in a thread is SPAM eh ??

I guess I was spamming my basement servers at the same time right ??

Hey everybody, come host off of Sarettah's super basement servers !!! 128k dsl line will handle everything you got !!!

Serge Litehead · 08-30-2004, 10:16 AM

notjoe · 08-30-2004, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by sarettah
lolol...If you think that is SPAM, you have a lot to fucking learn. I was merely pointing out that I am not a WEBAIR customer or spokesman.

So, now mentioning any company name in a thread is SPAM eh ??

I guess I was spamming my basement servers at the same time right ??

Hey everybody, come host off of Sarettah's super basement servers !!! 128k dsl line will handle everything you got !!!

Go read http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=348732&s=

sarettah · 08-30-2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe
Go read http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=348732&s=

I read that earlier and what Redshoe did was post a promotion that he has a vested interest in. Not quite the same thing I did.

First of all, I have no vested interest in M3, I neither make money off of pushing traffic to them, nor do I get a pay check from them.

I did not post a link to them, nor did I even mention their full name, I merely stated that I was happy with them.

Here is Redshoe's post that he was apologizing for (page 1 of this thread):

08-30-2004 07:27 AM | Edit | Quote | Profile | WWW | Search |

RedShoe
Anti-Social, by choice.

Registered: Feb 2001
Location: N. Hollywood
Posts: 8459

Hey..

If anyone here needs a bad ass deal on hosting hit me up. My guy WILL make you an offer YOU CAN NOT refuse.

I've seen him make this deal with several of the big sponsors. Trust me on this.

He works great for with newbies as well. He likes to snag new guys because he knows they will be big one day.

(icq 114683191)

http://Swiftco.net tell them RedShoe sent you and I GUARANTEE you an AWESOME DEAL!!!

*****************************************

That is a blatant promotion that could be construed to be trying to take advantage of the complaint and I can see why Kman reacted the way he did and Redshoe showed quite a bit of class in making his apology post.

If you think a mere mention of a company in a thread is the same as that then you are clueless.

I guess by your reckoning, I was spamming Oprano, Netpond and Ynot in the newbie thread I posted.

Get a clue.

genomega · 08-30-2004, 10:37 AM

Ok, this thread needs to go in the gfy hall of fame or shame depending on how you look at it.

Ar3s · 08-30-2004, 10:50 AM

i didnt had probs with webair..
i hope you will get all fixed!

sarettah · 08-30-2004, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by genomega
Ok, this thread needs to go in the gfy hall of fame or shame depending on how you look at it.

Actually, there is a ton of good info in this thread.

1. basic dns and how it works info.

2. basic "How Not To Handle a Problem" info.

V_RocKs · 10-17-2005, 06:51 PM

Doh! Good luck!

KRL · 10-17-2005, 06:55 PM

V_RocKs · 10-17-2005, 06:56 PM

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