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Old 08-26-2004, 06:51 PM   #1
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100K/day teen TGP for sale

Alrighty people, being that I'm in the business of growing sites, one of my friends has asked me to handle the sale of his TGP.

The site is http://www.schoolgirlsfantasy.com and is currently running on ePower Trader trade script and TManager thumb script.

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The site doesn't take submissions and runs on sponsor hosted galleries exclusively. That being said, it's really difficult to determine how much it's currently making, as it has galleries from a shitload of sponsors and the owner runs other stuff as well, making it virtually impossible to come up with a hard figure. On the other hand, if you know how to convert your traffic, you shouldn't have a problem making some nice cash with it.

Asking price for it is $4500 or better offer, payment by wire transfer. Please place your bids in this thread, bids submitted any other way will be disregarded. Happy bidding!
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Old 08-26-2004, 06:56 PM   #2
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Its been 5 mins and know one is making an offer. must be slow right now. Im sure someone will want this.
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- come on you knew it was coming!
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Hmmm...a little steep
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Old 08-26-2004, 06:59 PM   #5
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100K/DAY not bad not bad!
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SOLD! Provided you add another five grand.
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How much is it ROUGHLY making/day?
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dude... your traffic began in JULY....

this is a sucker deal.... sry...
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Hmmm...a little steep
You're kidding, right? According to reports by my clients, a 100K/day site makes around $2K/mo on hosted galleries alone, with very little work. At an asking price of $4500, that's not even three months worth of income. Now imagine spending a little time, getting to know your traffic, serving them ads that cater to their tastes, looking up fresh sites... Think that would increase the profits?

Hell, if I had the patience to run a site, I'd take it myself, but I just build them for others.
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Don't buy it then.
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OK people, as one of the pioneers of the TGP format I do declare anyone who bids more than $75 a sucker.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...rlsfantasy.com

This site's traffic magically appeared in Mid-July... hello? haha
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Old 08-26-2004, 07:08 PM   #13
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I sold mine a few weeks ago for around the same price.. Helluva deal!
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ok start the bidding 5.00 !! here
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OK people, as one of the pioneers of the TGP format I do declare anyone who bids more than $75 a sucker.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...rlsfantasy.com

This site's traffic magically appeared in Mid-July... hello? haha
so what, it means he knows how to build traffic?
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THe proof is in the pudding...

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so what, it means he knows how to build traffic?
No, it means he knows he knows how to feed/buy traffic. Once the feeding stops, the traffic will drop like a brick.
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so what, it means he knows how to build traffic?
Feed and trade and you have your 100k until you find a buyer
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OK people, as one of the pioneers of the TGP format I do declare anyone who bids more than $75 a sucker.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...rlsfantasy.com

This site's traffic magically appeared in Mid-July... hello? haha
Let me guess, you're a moron, right? Pioneer of TGP format? Well, I guess things have changed since stone age. So please, take your sour grapes with you and leave the ones living in the present do business. Thanks.
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Let me guess, you're a moron, right? Pioneer of TGP format? Well, I guess things have changed since stone age. So please, take your sour grapes with you and leave the ones living in the present do business. Thanks.
Dude, it's quite clear that the site got it's traffic by being fed, and from the alexa graph it's also quite clear that the traffic hasn't stabilised yet.
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Dude, it's quite clear that the site got it's traffic by being fed, and from the alexa graph it's also quite clear that the traffic hasn't stabilised yet.
Dude, it's quite clear that you don't know a lot about running trading sites. Any "stable" site will run up and down like a yo-yo 10-15%, even more on weekends. Anyway, thanks for the bump.
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Dude, it's quite clear that the site got it's traffic by being fed, and from the alexa graph it's also quite clear that the traffic hasn't stabilised yet.
That's what DamageX does, he grows sites. Yes, it would have been fed traffic to start with, but he when he hands over sites the feed has stopped.

Alexa is also a pretty inaccurate way of determining a sites stability. Those see-saws are more likely to be the result of statistical sampling anomalies, not the site's actual traffic ramping sharply up and down. Try any other large site and you'll probably see a similar effect. (eg bunnyteens went +100% then -50% in a few days... do you really think his traffic doubled in that time?)
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Thanks, I'll take that as a fee for you wasting my time. Now please get back in the line and make a serious bid.
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Will it be okay to VERIFY the traffic through proxyverifier or trafficlaundry scripts to make sure everything is on the up and up?
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All haters ... funny

they probably don't have 100k tgp traffic

We sold teeniesxxx to xapster about a month after we started it . It had about the same traffic as this site ...

and right now it's a very succesfull website ... and if I remember right we sold it for 6k
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Traffic doesn't come magicly from nowhere,there is no way you can get 100k steady SE traffic within that time period.So you got to feed it and it's trades.There are 30 trades going and you get to the trades every second or third click, do the math...
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I started schoolporn and the next day it was 50k ...

feed it traffic for 2-3 days, it hit 100k + .

It kept growing because the owner was doing the right thing ... without any traffic feeding .
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Will it be okay to VERIFY the traffic through proxyverifier or trafficlaundry scripts to make sure everything is on the up and up?
What he said
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Traffic doesn't come magicly from nowhere,there is no way you can get 100k steady SE traffic within that time period.So you got to feed it and it's trades.There are 30 trades going and you get to the trades every second or third click, do the math...
It's calling traffic trading ... my prod was arround 300 % with 65 % to galleries and I was growing fast ...

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Will it be okay to VERIFY the traffic through proxyverifier or trafficlaundry scripts to make sure everything is on the up and up?
I see no reason for that to be a problem. However, ePower Trader already has built-in proxy detection, so there's no unnatural proxy percentage, as far as I can see. But of course, I understand your concern and I wouldn't wanna buy 100K worth of hitbot traffic either, so please hit me up on ICQ and let's see how we can go about showing you that the traffic is legit.
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It's calling traffic trading ... my prod was arround 300 % with 65 % to galleries and I was growing fast ...

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There is no way that gallery only sites can get any SE traffic because there is no text to index, so they got to get feeded through other sites (hubs,paid traffic,whatever).I don't like redirecting that's why I don't like traffic trading.
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Traffic doesn't come magicly from nowhere,there is no way you can get 100k steady SE traffic within that time period.So you got to feed it and it's trades.There are 30 trades going and you get to the trades every second or third click, do the math...
No one ever said it was SE traffic. Yes, it's traded and bookmark traffic and the price reflects that. If it was SE traffic I think you'd be looking at a whole different price tag, Bob.
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There is no way that gallery only sites can get any SE traffic because there is no text to index, so they got to get feeded through other sites (hubs,paid traffic,whatever).I don't like redirecting that's why I don't like traffic trading.
Hey guy ... I've had 3 sites in sextracker top 20 at the same time ...

I don't fuck arround with tgps anymore cauz it's not worth the time ...

But trust me... it is possible to grow a site without feeding it .
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they probably don't have 100k tgp traffic

We sold teeniesxxx to xapster about a month after we started it . It had about the same traffic as this site ...

and right now it's a very succesfull website ... and if I remember right we sold it for 6k
Actually, didn't you sell teeniesxxx for $6K? Damn, maybe the price for this one should be higher as well, I think I'm letting my friend get robbed here...
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That's what DamageX does, he grows sites. Yes, it would have been fed traffic to start with, but he when he hands over sites the feed has stopped.

Alexa is also a pretty inaccurate way of determining a sites stability. Those see-saws are more likely to be the result of statistical sampling anomalies, not the site's actual traffic ramping sharply up and down. Try any other large site and you'll probably see a similar effect. (eg bunnyteens went +100% then -50% in a few days... do you really think his traffic doubled in that time?)
Let's compare it to bunnyteens:



Now look at the *relative* stability. Notice a difference? Ofcourse you do.

Obviously, alexa is grossly inaccurate. However, in this case it is confirming something that is already quite obvious: the site (still) needs feeder traffic to stay at it's current traffic level.

There's nothing wrong with raising sites on feeder traffic, getting them somewhat stable and then selling them, but in this case it really looks like all traffic could be gone in a day or two

Plus, if he created this site with the specific intent of selling it, it's kinda odd that he doesn't know what the site makes, and has set up the site in a way that it couldn't even be known.
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The age of the site would be my main concern,
ie how stable will the traffic be over time?

But here's a bump for ya
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OK people, as one of the pioneers of the TGP format I do declare anyone who bids more than $75 a sucker.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...rlsfantasy.com

This site's traffic magically appeared in Mid-July... hello? haha
I bid $80, who's the sucker now?
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Actually, didn't you sell teeniesxxx for $6K? Damn, maybe the price for this one should be higher as well, I think I'm letting my friend get robbed here...
Nop ... back then it was a lot easier to manage a tgp to grow just from trade too ... it's harder now because of the over-saturation of them . There must be 10 000 + tgps out there .

We sold couple other tgps for less after too
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they probably don't have 100k tgp traffic

We sold teeniesxxx to xapster about a month after we started it . It had about the same traffic as this site ...

and right now it's a very succesfull website ... and if I remember right we sold it for 6k
Wasn't that several years ago?
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There's nothing wrong with raising sites on feeder traffic, getting them somewhat stable and then selling them, but in this case it really looks like all traffic could be gone in a day or two
Of course. So *could* bunnyteens', shit happens.

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Plus, if he created this site with the specific intent of selling it, it's kinda odd that he doesn't know what the site makes, and has set up the site in a way that it couldn't even be known.
Did you even bother reading the first post? If you did, then you already know that it's not MY site, I'm helping a friend sell it. I never asked for his reasons for selling it and I don't care. And no, it's not odd that either me nor him know what the site makes, and the setup of the site is rather intended for growth and profit than to lack of knowledge about it. However, it is your God-given right to speculate and this is GFY, the perfect place for drama and stirring shit. ;)
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Wasn't that several years ago?
Yea ... I'm not saying nothing about the price . I'm just saying it was possible and is probably possible now if you are just a little bit original .
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I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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Old 08-26-2004, 08:06 PM   #47
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Of course. So *could* bunnyteens', shit happens.
Established sites tend to be more stable than new ones, that have been fed traffic.


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Originally posted by DamageX Did you even bother reading the first post? If you did, then you already know that it's not MY site, I'm helping a friend sell it. I never asked for his reasons for selling it and I don't care. And no, it's not odd that either me nor him know what the site makes, and the setup of the site is rather intended for growth and profit than to lack of knowledge about it. However, it is your God-given right to speculate and this is GFY, the perfect place for drama and stirring shit. ;) [/B]
Put yourself in the position of the readers of this thread for a moment. It's never been mentioned who owns the site, you're just selling it for "a friend". There is absolutely nothing known about how much the site makes. The site is *very* new, and seems to have rather unstable traffic on alexa.

Be honest... if you were considering buying a site, would those things look good to you?
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Old 08-26-2004, 08:10 PM   #48
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All haters ... funny

they probably don't have 100k tgp traffic

We sold teeniesxxx to xapster about a month after we started it . It had about the same traffic as this site ...

and right now it's a very succesfull website ... and if I remember right we sold it for 6k
Dude you don't want to know how much money that site makes for the owners now, you would fucking CRY! LOL!

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Old 08-26-2004, 08:15 PM   #49
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Put yourself in the position of the readers of this thread for a moment. It's never been mentioned who owns the site, you're just selling it for "a friend". There is absolutely nothing known about how much the site makes. The site is *very* new, and seems to have rather unstable traffic on alexa.

Be honest... if you were considering buying a site, would those things look good to you?
Of course. There are two kinds of people, those who can build traffic and those who can convert it. Very few know both, mainly due to the fact that in order to become really good at either, you need to spend time practicing and that doesn't leave you time for the other. That being said, ANYONE can tweak sales pitches and experiment with traffic until it converts well. A lot fewer know how to generate traffic. Traffic is a comodity and a site with traffic should be treated as such. Again, those who know how to convert traffic should have no problem making back the price within a couple of months.

Now, even with current income level unknown and no details about who actually owns the site, do you think recovering your investment in two months is a bad deal? Personally I think it's good as gold and if you show me another online or offline venture with the same payback possibilities, except for porn, I'd be happy to venture into it. My bet is you can't.
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Dude you don't want to know how much money that site makes for the owners now, you would fucking CRY! LOL!

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I could help, but do I really want adult traffiic?
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