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Old 08-27-2004, 03:32 AM   #1
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CCBill or IBill

I need a processor who can split payouts between two people, after fees and affiliate payments. Ibill can't do this (although it's been a while since I asked them). Can CCBill? Is there a better processor?
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Old 08-27-2004, 03:39 AM   #2
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:05 AM   #3
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ccbill, dont lose your time with ibill, their admin area and support arent worth that...
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:14 AM   #4
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IBill for sure.

You make much less with CCbill.
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:15 AM   #5
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I need a processor who can split payouts between two people, after fees and affiliate payments. Ibill can't do this (although it's been a while since I asked them). Can CCBill? Is there a better processor?
ccbill can do this. Go with them
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:43 AM   #6
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Question for affiliates - do you prefer ccbill or ibill?
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:44 AM   #7
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:49 AM   #8
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Visa question. I have already paid The Visa fee through ibill. Would I have to pay it AGAIN through CCbill?
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:50 AM   #9
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Question for affiliates - do you prefer ccbill or ibill?
Ccbill for sure, because you can group more ccbill id's under 1 "parent" ID. Can't do that for ibill (for now). So with ccbill you'll get loads of small time affiliates.
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:54 AM   #10
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Ccbill for sure, because you can group more ccbill id's under 1 "parent" ID. Can't do that for ibill (for now). So with ccbill you'll get loads of small time affiliates.
Ibill started doing that two years ago but never finished. I think they still have the announcement from two years ago in the CMI.
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Old 08-27-2004, 05:06 AM   #11
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Visa question. I have already paid The Visa fee through ibill. Would I have to pay it AGAIN through CCbill?
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and what strobi said, you will get more webmasters pushing your program with ccbill
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Old 08-27-2004, 05:08 AM   #12
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and what strobi said, you will get more webmasters pushing your program with ccbill
So you have to pay VISA $750 EVERY time you sign up wirth a new processor. that SUKS!
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Old 08-27-2004, 05:54 AM   #13
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Old 08-27-2004, 06:07 AM   #14
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Question for affiliates - do you prefer ccbill or ibill?
From both an affiliate and site owner point of view, 12 months or more ago I'd have said CCBill with no hesitation. Unfortunately not any more.
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Old 08-27-2004, 06:46 AM   #15
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I understand that splitting your payouts are important to you, but it should not be one thing you base your decision on. You can split payments yourself.
Think about who is going to give you less false declines, better service, better tools and more attention.
I'd say stick with iBill!!!
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:43 PM   #16
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Hmm! Not many good things to say about ccbill, I see.
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:44 PM   #17
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i have never been a fan of ibill, i see no problems with ccbill, i know people have said in the past people signing up have had problems.
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:46 PM   #18
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Visa question. I have already paid The Visa fee through ibill. Would I have to pay it AGAIN through CCbill?
Yes
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Old 08-27-2004, 03:01 PM   #19
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Old 08-27-2004, 03:03 PM   #20
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Think about who is going to give you less false declines, better service, better tools and more attention.
I'd say stick with iBill!!!
are you kidding? what tools? You ever saw ccbill admin? You need one day only to check what all you can setup. Service, attention? LOL I signed-up twice with them, gave them my FTP info and got never any answer. CCbill replies within minutes...
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Old 08-27-2004, 03:09 PM   #21
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Old 08-27-2004, 03:56 PM   #22
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Yep, and judge for yourself as well as set them up in cascading fashion. It's a win/win that way.
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:05 PM   #23
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:24 PM   #24
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Old 08-28-2004, 07:18 AM   #25
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are you kidding? what tools? You ever saw ccbill admin? You need one day only to check what all you can setup. Service, attention? LOL I signed-up twice with them, gave them my FTP info and got never any answer. CCbill replies within minutes...
I will agree. The ibill tools suck, much worse than what I can see of ccbill from taking their tour. The problem with ibill is that their stats have actually gotten worse over the years. Something breaks, the CMI is off-line for a few days, and when it gets back, some feature of the CMI is down. They tell you that it is temporary, which REALLY MEANS it's permanent. I am still waiting for temporaries from three years ago to resolve themselves.

That said, I won't stop using ibill altogether, even if I switch to CCbill. In spite of alll the problems, they have always paid on time. Besides, it's already set up on the paysite I am in the process of renovating. Most likely, I'd just make ibill my secondary processor and use cascading billing.

The BIG issue for me right now is the VISA fee. I really don't think it's fair for me to have to pay them TWICE. It's the same company. Just a different processor.
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Old 08-28-2004, 07:24 AM   #26
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To me the visa fee is just lame ass blackmailing so I wouldn't wonder if you have to pay them twice.I don't really like both but still use them,ever thought about paycom, jettis, verotel etc.?
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Old 08-28-2004, 07:27 AM   #27
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Old 08-28-2004, 07:28 AM   #28
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To me the visa fee is just lame ass blackmailing so I wouldn't wonder if you have to pay them twice.I don't really like both but still use them,ever thought about paycom, jettis, verotel etc.?
Not if I have to pay a $750 VISA fee for each new processor I sign up with. It IS blackmail, but you can't run a business and NOT accept VISA.
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Old 08-28-2004, 09:01 AM   #29
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I was under the impression you paid a lesser fee when you'd already paid the fee previously...
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Old 08-28-2004, 09:05 AM   #31
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Old 08-28-2004, 09:11 AM   #32
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I was under the impression you paid a lesser fee when you'd already paid the fee previously...
You do. It's only $375.00 annually, after a one-time fee of $750.00. However, if you add a new processor, you have to pay the initial fee for them apparently. SUCKS!
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Old 08-28-2004, 10:36 AM   #34
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I use ccbill as both a webmaster and an aff. member - their system is by far the best, I have never had a single problem with them in any way.

ccbill for sure.
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Old 08-28-2004, 10:49 AM   #35
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Old 08-28-2004, 10:59 AM   #36
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I wish there was a consensus on this. AArrgghhh!
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