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Shap 08-26-2004 01:25 PM

Awesome stats Quiet. Thanks for posting them. Always love seeing them. You've increased your number of members a couple thousand over the past year. NICE JOB!

Oldy 08-26-2004 01:46 PM

very cool stats,
most of the people who have gallery setups for their affiliates will just recieve partial traffic (like most affiliates will signup to like 20 sponsors and use all of their gallery links),

I only centralize with 4-5 good sponsors, but i also use a lot of sponsors and only send $3-4k a month

Good work guys!

Mishi 08-26-2004 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jpv
Exactly. I don't have a problem with people making a few thousand a month and I don't mean to put them down. That is a good living. I just run a site that I advertise by myself. I would not have the time to have alot of affiliates and help them out in a way to make everyone more money. Now if they can send a minimum amount of sales per day to make it worth my time I would be willing to spend the time with the few affiliates.
I did misunderstand and your point is well taken. Good thoughts on diversification, too. :)

Varius 08-26-2004 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMob?
with those numbers you could calculate a sponsors income pretty acurately
Not really.....lots of sponsors (well atleast us), get SE traffic, mailer campaigns, etc...

Affiliates are just one piece :2 cents:

studio 08-26-2004 03:02 PM

Wish I had 100 active affiliates promoting the Girls of Pineapplepink.... Some day....

Myst 08-26-2004 03:55 PM

bump

iwantu 08-26-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheMob?
with those numbers you could calculate a sponsors income pretty acurately
Not really!

We send 350 checks per month! and this is only the top 100.
But since it is LIVE, you can estimate how much traffic and money our affiliates are making per hour :)

andrej_NDC 08-26-2004 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
$500/month may not seem like a lot to some of you guys, but its not a bad check considering all they had to do was put up a link on their website. Promoting Lightspeedcash costs our affiliates ZERO. We provide and pay for everything -- exclusive content, hosting, design work, billing, etc.
it dont costs the affiliate ZERO! The affiliate has to pay for hosting, traffic, etc. And the most imporant he spends the time with promoting your sites. If he push you and maked $200/day and could make $300/day with other program, he is losing $100 each day...time is very expensive, because its very limited, so no, its not free to promote you or any other sponsor.

Bake 08-26-2004 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LasseKongos
Our top webmasters makes much much more then that numbers!
No balls to post your stats thou

johndoebob 08-26-2004 05:04 PM

I always wonder about that support thing, I can understand that some people only give big site owners a chance because because they don't want to have their sites over promoted that fast but I wonder who really needs support all day?

I never need support beside I loose my pass (that happens once or twice in a lifetime when my comp crashes or whatever).Mostly sales reps bother me as if they were experienced webmasters who could improve anything I can't do.I ask myself what kind of other support a sponsor had to do when they just would ignore the clueless newbies who ask how to make money after signing up and don't get them any money anyway.

kush 08-26-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio
Wish I had 100 active affiliates promoting the Girls of Pineapplepink.... Some day....
not having red X's going to your program in your sig would be a good start....

KCat 08-26-2004 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
I always wonder about that support thing, I can understand that some people only give big site owners a chance because because they don't want to have their sites over promoted that fast but I wonder who really needs support all day?
I bet the smaller affiliates are where most of the support goes. Complaining on the boards because they only got 1 sale out of 500 clicks, claiming missing checks when they haven't reached the minimum payouts etc.

When you think about the cost to advertise on webmaster boards like GFY, booths at conventions, parties & the time to spam the boards &/or put out board drama fires...that's a hell of a lot of paid TGP spots, Adwords etc.

johndoebob 08-26-2004 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush
not having red X's going to your program in your sig would be a good start....
I don't see a red X.

Varius 08-26-2004 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat
I bet the smaller affiliates are where most of the support goes. Complaining on the boards because they only got 1 sale out of 500 clicks, claiming missing checks when they haven't reached the minimum payouts etc.

When you think about the cost to advertise on webmaster boards like GFY, booths at conventions, parties & the time to spam the boards &/or put out board drama fires...that's a hell of a lot of paid TGP spots, Adwords etc.

From my experience, we've gained more in a few days giving out cash in a contest, than we've seen from our booth, banners ads on boards (even GFY), sigs or any other method.

The thread gets attention; people ICQ me. I talk with them and usually have no problems convincing them to try us out!

After that, it's upto the numbers :Graucho

Bake 08-26-2004 05:26 PM

Varius
Stiil waiting aproval on ICQ

Varius 08-26-2004 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bake
Varius
Stiil waiting aproval on ICQ

I don't see any request for auth....try re-requesting please, or give me your number I'll add you.

quiet 08-26-2004 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varius
Not too bad :thumbsup

We make more, but then again have to payout affiliates and other expenses.
thanks. what percentage do you pay out to affiliates? 50 or 60% i assume? like i said, i pay out zero. i should do 2.5 Mill for 2004 after all chargebacks, refunds and processor fees this year, all from a single paysite ;)

cheers Shap :)

Varius 08-26-2004 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
thanks. what percentage do you pay out to affiliates? 50 or 60% i assume? like i said, i pay out zero. i should do 2.5 Mill for 2004 after all chargebacks, refunds and processor fees this year, all from a single paysite ;)

cheers Shap :)

Right now around 55% of our business is from affiliates. Goes a bit higher during promotions.

Did you see my comment about your processing fees though? It looked around 15% unless I calculated wrong, on your volume you should get much less......

johnvod 08-26-2004 07:57 PM

bring your top affiliates to promote www.videopasscash.com as well and we will cut you a monster deal.

quiet 08-26-2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varius
Right now around 55% of our business is from affiliates. Goes a bit higher during promotions.

Did you see my comment about your processing fees though? It looked around 15% unless I calculated wrong, on your volume you should get much less......

i'm currently processing through ibill europe, i can't get into any details here, but the processing fees are significantly higher than the US.

OnTime 08-26-2004 08:21 PM

Nice shit, who will post stats next?

KCat 08-26-2004 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varius
From my experience, we've gained more in a few days giving out cash in a contest, than we've seen from our booth, banners ads on boards (even GFY), sigs or any other method.

The thread gets attention; people ICQ me. I talk with them and usually have no problems convincing them to try us out!

After that, it's upto the numbers :Graucho

That's fantastic! Glad to hear you're figuring out what works best. Hope you snagged some great affiliates. :thumbsup

Bake 08-26-2004 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i'm currently processing through ibill europe, i can't get into any details here, but the processing fees are significantly higher than the US.
The 15% is zip compared to the way less scrubing europe offers

iwantu 08-26-2004 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bake
The 15% is zip compared to the way less scrubing europe offers
Do you have any numbers? I am interested to know about the exact difference between EU scrubing and US scrubing.

dig420 08-26-2004 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i've posted my stats several times over the years, wasn't ever going to do it again. one more time won't kill me i guess... year to date from ibill CMI Yearly Statement Summary. no affiliates. i have other stuff going on these days as well, but in an effort to keep that shit under wraps, i'll only post stats from the site most people associate with me.


http://catalog.com/uvlight/images/lateststats.gif

note that this is AFTER all ibill fees, and is the actual wire money sent out...

Quiet, you're still getting a reserve withheld? I would talk to them about that...

if it makes you feel good, I'm grossing more and netting less than you are :) I've often thought of going to that one site model with darkcavern.com, but fetishbucks.com just has too many assets and too much money in it to kill it. Plus new sites coming out.

I think the potential for millions is higher with a bigger program but the irritations are also multiplied.

OnTime 08-27-2004 01:32 AM

Bump

Aussie Rebel 08-27-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Ok, I'll play

Here are Lightspeedcash Top100 for July 2004

1 Barooga, Austraila $5,152.25
2 Burlington, Canada $4,055.96
3 Burlington, Canada $3,851.03
4 Lutz, USA $2,727.73
5 Maribor, SIovenia $2,446.92
6 Greer, USA $2,208.68
7 Trencin, Slovakia $2,095.69
8 Brandon, USA $1,925.85
9 Wichita, USA $1,841.17
10 Pembroke Pines, US $1,627.49
11 Champlin, USA $1,401.81
12 Lynn, US $1,380.99
13 loudonville, US $1,284.99
14 Fort Lauderdale, USA $1,204.05
15 Canberra, Australia $1,181.03
16 Edina, US $1,162.23
17 Toronto, Canada $1,159.38
18 Laredo, Mexico $1,140.43
19 Calabasas, USA $1,119.22
20 Agdenes, Norway $1,101.44
21 Moncton, Canada $1,096.23
22 Ann Arbor, USA $1,034.45
23 Vancouver, Canada $985.92
24 Tucson, USA $970.00
25 Helsinki, Finland $961.41
26 Zaandam, The Netherlands $949.32
27 Henderson, USA $881.94
28 Federal Way, US $879.67
29 Kiryat Shmuel, Israel $835.68
30 Regina, Canada $829.71
31 Klagenfurt, Austria $803.87
32 Montreal, Canada $795.88
33 Vancouver, Canada $790.00
34 Hong Kong, Hong Kong $782.69
35 Mar del Plata, Argentina $780.85
36 Dodgeville, US $775.86
37 Togliatti, Russia $765.00
38 Prestonsburg, USA $748.77
39 Toronto, Canada $719.04
40 Trebic, Czech Republic $709.86
41 Brno, Czech Republic $694.86
42 Hodonin, Czech republic $660.02
43 Deerfield Beach, USA $655.00
44 Vancouver, Canada $655.00
45 Buenos Aires, Argentina $639.94
46 Vancouver, Canada $636.97
47 Hillegom, Netherlands $623.10
48 Kings Park, USA $597.08
49 Osmangazi / BURSA, Turkey $576.17
50 Glendale, USA $557.27
51 Winston-Salem, USA $551.13
52 Wellington, New Zealand $536.16
53 Monte Estoril, Portugal $530.13
54 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $520.00
55 Thief River Falls, USA $506.22
56 Newhall, US $506.19
57 Calgary, Canada $506.13
58 Mar del Plata, Argentina $500.31
59 Togliatti, Russia $488.31
60 Davie, USA $485.25
61 Los Angeles, USA $485.10
62 La Grange, USA $485.05
63 Mountain View, USA $473.19
64 Riverside, USA $465.00
65 Indianapolis, US $458.28
66 Waterloo, Canada $455.34
67 Oxted, United Kingdom $455.00
68 Reston, USA $443.19
69 Costa Mesa, US $439.33
70 Savage, USA $408.47
71 elmhurst, US $383.43
72 Cave Creek, US $371.37
73 Toronto, Canada $368.46
74 Leszno, Poland $365.37
75 Phoenix, US $364.87
76 Plymouth, US $362.49
77 Dover, USA $356.49
78 Drasenhofen, Austria $356.40
79 East Moline, USA $353.43
80 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $333.50
81 Dunn, US $332.49
82 Huntington Beach, USA $326.49
83 North Las Vegas, US $320.52
84 Glenview, USA $315.53
85 Toronto, Canada $308.52
86 Calabasas, USA $305.00
87 Toronto, Canada $296.61
88 Fortitude Valley, Australia $296.58
89 Chatsworth, USA $296.58
90 State College, USA $293.49
91 Eindhoven, Netherlands $290.58
92 Carlsbad, US $287.61
93 Sesvete, croatia $284.61
94 Toronto, CA $284.61
95 Croydon, Australia $284.58
96 Ashburn, US $282.56
97 Zgornje Gorje, Slovenia $275.00
98 Seaford Rise, Australia $269.52
99 San Mateo, USA $263.61
100 Toronto, Canada $263.58

thats me at number 1 and I have'nt worked for 9 months, but I'm back now and gonna kick some ass with lightspeedcash, you guys still rock :thumbsup

P.S I'm number 1 this month too :Graucho

Dirty D 08-27-2004 02:39 PM

Quote:

There is no way I will waste my time with an affiliate sending 5 sales per day...
This is a great thread...

We love webmasters that send 5 sales per day...
We have thousands of affiliates and want thousands more!

We welcome all webmasters, large and small to add another revenue stream from Dirty D... Payouts are once a week!

exposed 08-27-2004 02:42 PM

:thumbsup

Monk 08-27-2004 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
thanks. what percentage do you pay out to affiliates? 50 or 60% i assume? like i said, i pay out zero. i should do 2.5 Mill for 2004 after all chargebacks, refunds and processor fees this year, all from a single paysite ;)

cheers Shap :)

but you pay a lot to the TGP's, no?

Sexy Rex 08-27-2004 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dustman
This is a great thread...

We love webmasters that send 5 sales per day...
We have thousands of affiliates and want thousands more!

We welcome all webmasters, large and small to add another revenue stream from Dirty D... Payouts are once a week!

Then post your TOP100 :Graucho

strobi 08-27-2004 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monk
but you pay a lot to the TGP's, no?
peanuts compared to total income:1orglaugh

Bake 08-27-2004 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantu
Do you have any numbers? I am interested to know about the exact difference between EU scrubing and US scrubing.
Been a while since I checked but USA merchants are forced by visa to have 0.75% charge back ratio while UK based merchants are allowed 2.5% so work your math from that.

wtfent 08-27-2004 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varius
Not too bad :thumbsup

We make more, but then again have to payout affiliates and other expenses.

One thing I notice though, you're paying around 15% processor fees? Shouldn't you get a lower one for that volume with IBill??

Maybe he changed his numbers.

SureFire 08-27-2004 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dustman
This is a great thread...

We love webmasters that send 5 sales per day...
We have thousands of affiliates and want thousands more!

We welcome all webmasters, large and small to add another revenue stream from Dirty D... Payouts are once a week!

Great attitude. :)

quiet 08-27-2004 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wtfent
Maybe he changed his numbers.
i can post real stats all day long, let's see yours. infact, i'm the only person in this thread that has posted stats from the actual processor.

OnTime 08-28-2004 03:07 AM

Anyone else going to post 'em?

Manowar 08-28-2004 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush
not having red X's going to your program in your sig would be a good start....
works fine here

quiet 08-28-2004 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
Quiet, you're still getting a reserve withheld? I would talk to them about that...

if it makes you feel good, I'm grossing more and netting less than you are :) I've often thought of going to that one site model with darkcavern.com, but fetishbucks.com just has too many assets and too much money in it to kill it. Plus new sites coming out.

I think the potential for millions is higher with a bigger program but the irritations are also multiplied.

darkcavern looks seriously great, that site must be doing extremely well. for sure there are pros and cons to both models - regardless, as long as we continue to pad our bank accounts for the inevitable, there is not much to complain about :thumbsup

MickeyG 08-28-2004 09:31 AM

there are alot of intesting things being said in this thread... bump for some more :thumbsup


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