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http 08-24-2004 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Forkbeard
I was fascinated to see the Lightspeed list when it popped up on their site the other day. Like others, I thought there would be a few more peeps in the above-$1k crew. Steve, please don't take that badly -- it just means your marketing-to-potential-affiliates is working. I look at that list and I see opportunity. "What? If that's all the affiliate promotion those awesome sites are getting, there's still room for me!"



I concur


Steve,

it was very cool of you to post the stats

I am looking forward to bring a new country onto the top of that list soon

Dirty F 08-24-2004 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnvod
Get your affiliates to add our mobile movie theatre with 1000"s of full-lenght movies to thier members area and we will work you a deal.They can be in the VOD businuss and promote thousands of our movies in just 5 minutes without even leaving thier site.

you really need to see what i'm talking about.

You can add a traveling theatre to all your affiliates instantly and we will work you in.

Wanna talk?

Fuck off loser. This isnt a spam thread.

VeriSexy 08-24-2004 04:35 PM

I wonder if topbucks and nastydollars will post some stats :) I remember the good old days of CTC. I use to go through peoples stats to find out which sponsors brought in the most money :1orglaugh

I miss the CTC days, was easy money :waaaaahh

http 08-24-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
To be in top 5 with ars you had to send like 2-2.5k ... DAILY ...

Sales? A day? Not true. Not at all

Rico 08-24-2004 04:37 PM

CONGRATS to the TWO sponsors that posted their stats.

Takes big balls to do that.

One thing is to have it on your site, another is to post it on GFY, for many people to critique and play guessing games...

Good job Steve and Varius! :)

A few things to think about however... while guessing away guys...

July is just one month, and not always the best one.

The percentage of sales sent by affiliates differs greatly with each month and with each program. Some depend on affiliates 100%, other have MANY means to get their sales, and so, numbers could be as low as 20% affiliates, 80% other means, etc...

Regarding affiliates:
Another thing is that affiliates split their traffic between several if not MANY different programs, so those making 5k a month, could be very well making that same amount with 10+ other programs. ;)

Just my :2 cents:

Having said that, nice to see PanchoDog up there in the LS affiliate ranks! :D

Going to have to head for number 1, sorry guys, but that spot will be mine very soon :)

Damn good incentive!

iwantu 08-24-2004 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I'd much rather be in that position than depending on a few select webmasters for my core business. The more spread out the safer for long term business. :thumbsup

WG

Indeed! we send out about 350 checks per month!
And we prefer it this way, than sending 5 checks :)

Crypt 08-24-2004 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
To be in top 5 with ars you had to send like 2-2.5k ... DAILY ...
2,000 to 2,500 ?
Remove 3 zero, and you will get the good number

iwantu 08-24-2004 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
We've just added an option in our stats for affiliates to chose to screen their location from the top100 list. I can understand why some people would have privacy concerns.

Our numbers are honest. We never said we were #1, and we aren't supported by large mailers or other large sponsors --- but I'm not complaining about any of that. I'm very happy having several hundred affiliates sending one or more joins every day.

Steve Lightspeed

Our affiliates also asked us to be able to screen their location in the top 100. It should be implemented shortly.

IwantU also supports your program, because you are the only other program that had the balls to show your stats.

Varius 08-24-2004 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ravinwall
CONGRATS to the TWO sponsors that posted their stats.

Takes big balls to do that.

One thing is to have it on your site, another is to post it on GFY, for many people to critique and play guessing games...

Good job Steve and Varius! :)

A few things to think about however... while guessing away guys...

July is just one month, and not always the best one.

The percentage of sales sent by affiliates differs greatly with each month and with each program. Some depend on affiliates 100%, other have MANY means to get their sales, and so, numbers could be as low as 20% affiliates, 80% other means, etc...

Regarding affiliates:
Another thing is that affiliates split their traffic between several if not MANY different programs, so those making 5k a month, could be very well making that same amount with 10+ other programs. ;)

Just my :2 cents:

Having said that, nice to see PanchoDog up there in the LS affiliate ranks! :D

Going to have to head for number 1, sorry guys, but that spot will be mine very soon :)

Damn good incentive!

Well said :thumbsup

These are actually our live August totals so far though, not July numbers :winkwink:

stocktrader23 08-24-2004 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by iwantu

IwantU also supports your program, because you are the only other program that had the balls to show your stats.

I don't quite get this. Some people just don't care enough to respond with their top 100 affiliates. Most of them would blow these stats out of the water so what "balls" does it really take?

tranza 08-24-2004 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angelsofporn
Aug 1-23/
-Top 10-

Panama 6793.18
USA $6293.45
USA $4437.77
Australia $3109.97
USA $2932.65
Canada $2919.18
Hungary $2275.77
USA $2162.05
NL $1966.74
Hong Kong $1889.05

All revshare

Nice!!

:thumbsup

Doctor Dre 08-24-2004 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Same here, I'd hate to compare the top 5 on TCG with some of these lists. Granted these are revshare webmasters so they make their money over time compared to what we do.

WG

NOT even close ... I can imagine

Doctor Dre 08-24-2004 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I'd much rather be in that position than depending on a few select webmasters for my core business. The more spread out the safer for long term business. :thumbsup

WG

definitly but when you hit a really big affiliate it can be worth 500 + webmasters

Doctor Dre 08-24-2004 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by http
Sales? A day? Not true. Not at all
not sales ... money made from sales . my bad

Dave shown me stats ... maybe not NOW . Once he had like 8k $ sales (bonus day) and he wasn't even #1

detoxed 08-24-2004 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
I don't quite get this. Some people just don't care enough to respond with their top 100 affiliates. Most of them would blow these stats out of the water so what "balls" does it really take?

most programs would probably take a lot of programming work to pull out a top 100 list

tranza 08-24-2004 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
2,000 to 2,500 ?
Remove 3 zero, and you will get the good number

Lol.... You are clueless... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

quiet 08-24-2004 05:49 PM

i'm still in awe of how low the numbers are for these guys. no knock at all, and i appreciate the posting of stats. just makes me feel even better about my business model :)

KRL 08-24-2004 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i'm still in awe of how low the numbers are for these guys. no knock at all, and i appreciate the posting of stats. just makes me feel even better about my business model :)
:thumbsup

stocktrader23 08-24-2004 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i'm still in awe of how low the numbers are for these guys. no knock at all, and i appreciate the posting of stats. just makes me feel even better about my business model :)
Hehe, they make much more per month than their affiliates do I'm sure but I was floored as well. Probably 20% of what I expected to see.

WiredGuy 08-24-2004 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
definitly but when you hit a really big affiliate it can be worth 500 + webmasters

But the chances of that one huge webmaster leaving the affiliate program is much greater than 500+ webmasters leaving. I'd rather have the 500+ over the one whale to be honest.

WG

WiredGuy 08-24-2004 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
NOT even close ... I can imagine
I know my rank and my revenue levels and I'm quite impressed by those top 5 webmasters :)

WG

SteveLightspeed 08-24-2004 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy
21 Light Speed Cash 17 1:4473 $0.01 5

It's at the bottom :(

Lol, someone must have pulled some shit traffic out of their ass!


Steve Lightspeed

Tuga 08-24-2004 06:39 PM

I'm on LS's list and I see another portuguese on the first list, that lives REALLY close to me! I want to know who that guy is :helpme

StarkReality 08-24-2004 07:07 PM

Really interesting numbers, thanks for sharing them with us, I wish more sponsors would do so. :thumbsup

Indeed 08-24-2004 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varius
I'm just wondering how other programs' affiliates look like after the top 5 or 10......how much is your 100th place affiliate doing?

I think its important to have things spread out and not just rely on one big guy :2 cents:

- Our 100th place affiliate is looking at about $230 for this month....

- We will have 43 affiliates make over $1000 ! :thumbsup

- Our top affiliate is looking at about $8400 this month.

- These are not even including 10% Referral commissions :winkwink:

Checkout our top100 for August - LIVE stats

I'm interested to hear how other sites do.

Nice. Ok I see this on top of the list

"Total Payouts: $14,498,614.16"

Is that total since the program has been launched, for this year, for this month?

Steen2 08-24-2004 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indeed
Nice. Ok I see this on top of the list

"Total Payouts: $14,498,614.16"

Is that total since the program has been launched, for this year, for this month?

Launch I presume.

jpv 08-24-2004 09:19 PM

After seeing these numbers I am also in awe. I can't beleive how low they are. I just remember when affiliates where pulling 5 to 6 figures per month. I guess diversification and the saturation of affiliate programs really took a hit on the market. But damn. I am planning on setting up an affiliate program that is invite only. I would want affiliates to pull a minimum of 20 sales per day. Even after seeing these numbers I think it is possible to get larger affiliates as long as the site does not get over exposed in a market. Still these numbers just shocked me.

KarupLou 08-24-2004 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
We've just added an option in our stats for affiliates to chose to screen their location from the top100 list. I can understand why some people would have privacy concerns.

Our numbers are honest. We never said we were #1, and we aren't supported by large mailers or other large sponsors --- but I'm not complaining about any of that. I'm very happy having several hundred affiliates sending one or more joins every day.

Steve Lightspeed

Steve don't sweat it those are respectable numbers and you have built your program up from the very beginning. You are doing better than lots of people in the industry. Affiliates have so many more options to push these days especially when sites are offering 1,000,000 per 1 dollar trial or 99 cents for 1 year of access lol. So stick with what you do best and keep growing it man. Lets catch up sometime soon.

Lou from Karups
:2 cents:

KCat 08-24-2004 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angelsofporn
Aug 1-23/
-Top 10-

Panama 6793.18
USA $6293.45
USA $4437.77
Australia $3109.97
USA $2932.65
Canada $2919.18
Hungary $2275.77
USA $2162.05
NL $1966.74
Hong Kong $1889.05

All revshare

Just signed up. Any program that offers a "plethora" of sales tools is one worth trying. :thumbsup

iwantu 08-24-2004 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indeed
Nice. Ok I see this on top of the list

"Total Payouts: $14,498,614.16"

Is that total since the program has been launched, for this year, for this month?

Since launch in 1997! This number grows every month though ...;)

iwantu 08-24-2004 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jpv
After seeing these numbers I am also in awe. I can't beleive how low they are. I just remember when affiliates where pulling 5 to 6 figures per month. I guess diversification and the saturation of affiliate programs really took a hit on the market. But damn. I am planning on setting up an affiliate program that is invite only. I would want affiliates to pull a minimum of 20 sales per day. Even after seeing these numbers I think it is possible to get larger affiliates as long as the site does not get over exposed in a market. Still these numbers just shocked me.
Mostly diversification! The majority of successful affiliates these days split their traffic in 2 or 3 top sponsors, instead of one big sponsor (like in the old days).

The same reason sponsors have multiple-processing, affiliates have multiple-sponsors. :)

Giorgio_Xo 08-24-2004 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer
I want to see TCG top 100 :winkwink:
I send TCG around $1000 a month and I was ranked 201.

dig420 08-24-2004 10:47 PM

I prepay a couple guys 20k/mth and they roughly hit the target every month. My biggest darkcavern referrer does over 5k/wk and I wire him bi-weekly. I pay out close to 6 digits every month.

Making 6 digits/mth from your programs doesn't seem like shit to me though, you don't get financial security until you hit 7 digits or very high 6 digits and that's my goal. At this level I'm still throwing most of the money back into the program via shooting custom content and other persistent bills. It's actually surprising to me to see programs I thought were big ballers and I find out we're outpacing them considerably.

I've always had the sneaking feeling that this gravy train isn't going to last forever and I'm trying to get set 4 a long and luxurious life before it's all over...

KRL 08-24-2004 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
I prepay a couple guys 20k/mth and they roughly hit the target every month. My biggest darkcavern referrer does over 5k/wk and I wire him bi-weekly. I pay out close to 6 digits every month.

Making 6 digits/mth from your programs doesn't seem like shit to me though, you don't get financial security until you hit 7 digits or very high 6 digits and that's my goal. At this level I'm still throwing most of the money back into the program via shooting custom content and other persistent bills. It's actually surprising to me to see programs I thought were big ballers and I find out we're outpacing them considerably.

I've always had the sneaking feeling that this gravy train isn't going to last forever and I'm trying to get set 4 a long and luxurious life before it's all over...

Perfectly executed marketing on your site!!

Nice job Dig!!!

quiet 08-24-2004 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
I've always had the sneaking feeling that this gravy train isn't going to last forever and I'm trying to get set 4 a long and luxurious life before it's all over...
amen :glugglug

Varius 08-24-2004 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
I prepay a couple guys 20k/mth and they roughly hit the target every month. My biggest darkcavern referrer does over 5k/wk and I wire him bi-weekly. I pay out close to 6 digits every month.

Making 6 digits/mth from your programs doesn't seem like shit to me though, you don't get financial security until you hit 7 digits or very high 6 digits and that's my goal. At this level I'm still throwing most of the money back into the program via shooting custom content and other persistent bills. It's actually surprising to me to see programs I thought were big ballers and I find out we're outpacing them considerably.

I've always had the sneaking feeling that this gravy train isn't going to last forever and I'm trying to get set 4 a long and luxurious life before it's all over...

We plan on throwing everything back into the site/program for the next 6 months or so, to reach the next level and make up for the years we didn't market much at all :glugglug

So when you taking a relaxed beach vacation down here ???
:Graucho

Easton 08-24-2004 11:27 PM

Varius bro, don't all those russian and israeli WMs make you a little nervous? LOL

congrats on a very cool feature tho...*makes note* :Graucho

Bake 08-24-2004 11:31 PM

Nice to see some real numbers out there. I would have thought the lightspeed numbers would have been a bit higher or more guys around the 5k mark but I guess the thousands of small guys doing 100 per month add up.
Class act Steve I bet theres not to many with the balls to post.

Varius 08-24-2004 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easton
Varius bro, don't all those russian and israeli WMs make you a little nervous? LOL

congrats on a very cool feature tho...*makes note* :Graucho

Yeah we have to watch them carefullly.....CCBill helps us out in that regard :thumbsup

We also have scripts to monitor various behaviours that will alert us to fraud.

So far we've been lucky having some great Russian and Chinese "legit" affiliates.

dig420 08-24-2004 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varius
We plan on throwing everything back into the site/program for the next 6 months or so, to reach the next level and make up for the years we didn't market much at all :glugglug

So when you taking a relaxed beach vacation down here ???
:Graucho

I'm only fully relaxed when I'm home working, I don't really do vacations lol, as far as I'm concerned being self-employed has been an 8 yr vacation for me from the real world of wage-slaving and daily despair. I'm 38, I remember what it's like to work a REAL job for a living ;)

For you guys that are making real money: Do you think you could ever go back to working a regular job for a normal salary if you had to? I'm not sure I could. I don't know what I'd do, but I don't think I could handle working all week for an amount of money I now make in one night. While I'm asleep.


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