detoxed

200 dumbass posts like one quoted

MickeyG

I rather work with smaller affiliate programs that depend on their webmasters instead of the larger programs who forget where their money comes from.

datatank

If you mean joins you are smoking crack?

jpv

There is no way I will waste my time with an affiliate sending 5 sales per day. Do you think quiet would do this with his site? I am in the same boat as him. I support my site on my own. I don't need affiliates but I have had few webmaster who can push alot of sales contact me wanting to advertise my site. I am willing to take on a few larger affiliates who are looking for a quality site to promote. The webmasters who know what they are doing are always looking for fresh sites that convert and retain well. These webmasters would rather be one of few selected webmasters to work closely with a good site. Ask anyone who promoted bangbus before it was open to all the newbies. My site is not as original as their site but it converts tgp traffic like mad without trials because it has fresh content that people like.

I am not putting down the business model of having alot of small webmasters but I do not want to use that business model. It is just not for me and I think I can get a few large affiliates who will fit in nicely with what I want to do.

coolfuck

so where is all thoose people who make 100K per month?

__________________
WANT TO PLACE YOUR TEXT/BANNER HERE?
MSG ME:ICQ Number :43-420-088

Sexy Rex

I've never heard of more than a small bunch of webmasters (ie one guys, not a company with half a dozen people) doing over $100k a month. And the ones I know of are pushing dozens (yes with an s) of sponsors and ranked in the top10 of a big bunch of them.
My

__________________

WWW.ISTRIPPER.COM Unique Desktop Strippers since 1998, 20+ Millions users, 3000+ Girls to choose from, All UHD Exclusive Content.

iwantu

at IwantU.com, we believe the contrary. We prefer to have several thousand active affiliate linking to our website, than only few large ones (But of course, we gladely accept large affiliates as well, and we have several )

This will obvisouly increases tremendously our workload and support budget. However, it also increases our PR and visibility on the Internet.

Two different way of thinking i guess!

__________________

BRISK

Interesting thread

__________________
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

SteveLightspeed

I don't know what planet some of you are from, but I know a lot of small scale webmasters that rely on their Lightspeed checks to pay bills, take vacations, or save for their kids education.

$500/month may not seem like a lot to some of you guys, but its not a bad check considering all they had to do was put up a link on their website. Promoting Lightspeedcash costs our affiliates ZERO. We provide and pay for everything -- exclusive content, hosting, design work, billing, etc.

I didn't realize how many of you were making 10s of millions a year I guess.. You are certainly welcome to add Lightspeedcash to your mix of sponsors!

If you've tried us in the past without success, you should take another look now that we've completely redesigned our network, sites, pricing, and payout structures this year.

Steve Lightspeed

__________________
Abra-cadabra!

James White

Seems like we have a lot of gutless sponsors out there who arent willing to share the same info. I have the urge not to promote the ones who wont post the same info.

e-god

I dont aggree on posting cities of top affiliates.

__________________

Nasty D

LightspeedCash has the intregrity and the sites that convert, no wonder so many successful sponsors are kicking ass with Lightspeed!

__________________


Pimp Mandy Mayhem, Tabatha Sweet, Kristi Montana and Lexy Lohan @ Hawt Money

Indeed

bump

Bake

There seems allot of programe owners who dont wish to post there stats I wonder why ? Have they got something to hide.
Im going to look at all the programes who post there stats here thats for sure I like people who are upfront and honest.

__________________
Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more.
Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

Big Rick

wow thats coo

__________________
Sig coming soon..

crockett

no hate here, I don't make a ton of money with you guys and I'd like to make more, but what I do make I know will be in my mailbox when it's due. You guys are a solid program and shouldn't be worried what a few haters may think. We all know everyone on GFY is banking 10k before lunch time everyday, day in and out.

__________________
In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

Paul P

this is great.
i'd really like to see more sponsors post their top 100 on here.
very interesting to see

Toni

Good point! I have noticed many people on this board are talking about big business and big $$$ but if you get to know them closer they are nothing. They don?t have the sales, the traffic and many not even quality hosting or content at all?

__________________

TheMob

with those numbers you could calculate a sponsors income pretty acurately

Sexy Rex

Here is July 2004 for TotemCash (previous one was June 04). Interesting to see movers and shakers ;) Also posted conversion ratio (clicks sent / joins) for each. You can clearly see who sends SE traffic (and converts below 1/450) and who post galleries (and do around 1/1500).

1 Poway CA UNITED STATES $9620.01 1/459
2 Seattle WA UNITED STATES $6826.72 1/1529
3 Barcelona SPAIN $4622.81 n/a
4 Flossmoor IL UNITED STATES $3730.43 1/1098
5 Siauliai XXX LITHUANIA $3055.94 1/699
6 Lincolnton NC UNITED STATES $2909.46 1/1596
7 Laval QC CANADA $2706.28 1/2953
8 Aurora CO UNITED STATES $2024.51 1/710
9 Zaandam NETHERLANDS $1551.09 1/2394
10 Waarschoot XXX BELGIUM $1460.51 1/458
11 W Springfield MA UNITED STATES $1261.46 1/517
12 Montreal QC CANADA $1129.02 1/89
13 Gloucestershire UNITED KINGDOM $1116.12 1/953
14 Haarlem NETHERLANDS $1073.46 1/1956
15 Aurora CO UNITED STATES $989.63 1/2610
16 Lummen BELGIUM $962.93 1/2387
17 Schoonhoven XXX NETHERLANDS $881.79 1/1827
18 Philadelphia PA UNITED STATES $804.48 1/410
19 Brandon MB CANADA $698.39 1/2424
20 Montreal QC CANADA $626.62 1/2246
21 Glendale AZ UNITED STATES $621.06 1/89
22 Montreal QC CANADA $616.85 1/1062
23 British West Indies ANGUILLA $555.31 1/104
24 Las Vegas NV UNITED STATES $544.54 1/1627
25 Brooklyn NY UNITED STATES $519.81 1/1457
26 Istanbul TURKEY $515.75 1/1656
27 Sitges SPAIN $511.79 1/1247
28 Greer SC UNITED STATES $509.04 1/1613
29 Garland TX UNITED STATES $507.37 1/246
30 Aurora CO UNITED STATES $503.76 1/1014
31 Crowfield XXX UNITED KINGDOM $499.88 1/1331
32 OMSK XXX RUSSIA $477.76 1/552
33 Poway UNITED STATES $477.69 1/491
34 Gloucestershire XXX UNITED KINGDOM $473.89 1/589
35 West Linn OR UNITED STATES $462.55 1/1954
36 Round Lake Beach IL UNITED STATES $458.32 1/2279
37 Saint Laurent QC CANADA $441.76 n/a
38 Ceredigion XXX UNITED KINGDOM $432.56 1/249
39 Melbourne - Victoria AUSTRALIA $409.20 1/1662
40 Brockway PA UNITED STATES $395.23 1/922
41 New York NY UNITED STATES $383.13 1/1240
42 Tinley Park IL UNITED STATES $379.87 1/1274
43 Saint-Petersburg XXX RUSSIA $369.52 1/3319
44 Stafford Heights QLD AUSTRALIA $364.34 1/1373
45 Zandvoort XXX NETHERLANDS $354.95 1/623
46 Lake Grove NY UNITED STATES $344.51 1/1341
47 Pierrefonds QC CANADA $343.79 n/a
48 Champlin MN UNITED STATES $339.82 1/80
49 Christchurch XXX NEW ZEALAND $332.70 1/384
50 Penza XXX RUSSIA $330.63 1/3923
51 Toronto CANADA $324.90 1/203
52 Cleveland OH UNITED STATES $323.42 1/261
53 Branson MO UNITED STATES $318.50 1/445
54 London XXX UNITED KINGDOM $314.45 1/675
55 Nove Mesto nad Vahom XXX SLOVAKIA (Slovak Republic) $312.19 1/1569
56 Marina Del Rey CA UNITED STATES $307.71 n/a
57 De Witt NY UNITED STATES $288.37 1/746
58 Pianezza TO XXX ITALY $286.32 1/482
59 Toronto ON CANADA $276.60 1/325
60 Freeport NY UNITED STATES $271.57 1/6802
61 Cocoa FL UNITED STATES $267.56 1/521
62 Eldersburg Md UNITED STATES $262.32 1/1293
63 Moscow XXX RUSSIA $260.81 1/1931
64 Saint-Laurent QC CANADA $256.83 1/14244
65 Toronto ON CANADA $256.41 1/222
66 Prague 1 XXX CZECH REPUBLIC $250.50 1/1237
67 Haarlem NETHERLANDS $238.41 1/5242
68 Mount Pearl NF CANADA $237.30 1/1249
69 Moscow ID UNITED STATES $227.91 1/1887
70 Hilo HI UNITED STATES $225.97 1/1465
71 Joondalup XXX AUSTRALIA $216.59 1/1722
72 Montreal QC CANADA $211.50 n/a
73 Kristiansand XXX NORWAY $209.51 1/1380
74 Fort Lauderdale FL UNITED STATES $208.09 1/213
75 Montreal CANADA $206.50 1/1054
76 Douglas UNITED KINGDOM $202.19 1/2060
77 Montpellier XXX FRANCE $201.51 1/2171
78 Nanaimo BC CANADA $201.32 1/205
79 Port Jervis NY UNITED STATES $200.61 1/297
80 Shailer Park XXX AUSTRALIA $200.58 1/355
81 Shepherdstown WV UNITED STATES $197.33 1/1185
82 Aliso VIejo CA UNITED STATES $196.43 1/352
83 Ede XXX NETHERLANDS $195.66 1/3912
84 Coconut Creek FL UNITED STATES $194.38 n/a
85 Prague 1 CZECH REPUBLIC $192.46 1/475
86 Marikina XXX PHILIPPINES $189.77 1/805
87 Kingsford Heights IN UNITED STATES $185.17 1/2061
88 Trois-Rivieres-Ouest QC CANADA $182.92 1/2160
89 Bettembourg XXX LUXEMBOURG $179.20 1/2766
90 Aurora CO UNITED STATES $177.67 1/341
91 Chisinau XXX MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF $175.09 1/848
92 Davie FL UNITED STATES $172.52 1/1465
93 Moscow XXX RUSSIA $172.35 1/4992
94 Greer SC UNITED STATES $172.06 1/1036
95 Tamworth XXX UNITED KINGDOM $168.70 1/1361
96 Empire Bay XXX AUSTRALIA $159.33 1/2716
97 Lille FRANCE $159.24 1/1744
98 Westerbork XXX NETHERLANDS $158.82 1/582
99 Dayton OH UNITED STATES $156.39 1/1625
100 Franklin TN UNITED STATES $155.67 1/1686

Join us at www.totemcash.Com to take your share. There is still tons of $$$ to be made with Strippers on Desktop, mostly because the keywords associated with it (screensavers, goodies, desktop, themes, icons etc) are not saturated at all

__________________

WWW.ISTRIPPER.COM Unique Desktop Strippers since 1998, 20+ Millions users, 3000+ Girls to choose from, All UHD Exclusive Content.

Toni

But one thing what I wonder about is that many companies if you make $2,000-$5,000 per month don?t treat you very well. These are not any of those that posted here but I always felt like a small fish. Especially I wondered about one company that I made around $300k-$400k with over a couple years.

Because of such things, and some others ;-) I keep splitting my traffic over more and more companies?

__________________

Alex Xe

nice stats.

Mishi

Thank you for making this clear and public, jpv. I will make a note that your company (which is? that wasn't clear - and I read this board with sigs off) is one I will never do business with. That's not meant as a dig or a jab - you don't want my business, so I don't want to make the mistake of doing business with you.

I can't seem to phrase that without making it sound mean-spirited. I really don't mean for it to sound that way - your business model is yours and I respect that. I guess I've been put off by a few bad eggs who have no problem dissing their lower-performing affiliates while still taking their traffic. I won't mention names.

One of the first things I learned in this business is to never put all your eggs in one basket. I've lived by that, and it's served me reasonably well.

My small amount of traffic is spread among many advertisers and I am constantly tweaking the results. Seeing the stats a few brave sponsors have posted has made me feel a bit better about my lowly stats, and has motivated me to work a little harder - I appreciate the information.

__________________
Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.

twist

Agreed. Let them post their own stats.

webgurl

very interesting thread ,

SteveLightspeed

Even with a Top100 list, you still don't know how many total affiliates there are, or how much traffic/signups a program buys or generates internally --- or what that companies expenses are (or how deeply in debt they are)

There is a HUGE difference between being BIG and being PROFITABLE. Ask Amazon.com about that one.

Steve Lightspeed

__________________
Abra-cadabra!

quiet

i've posted my stats several times over the years, wasn't ever going to do it again. one more time won't kill me i guess... year to date from ibill CMI Yearly Statement Summary. no affiliates. i have other stuff going on these days as well, but in an effort to keep that shit under wraps, i'll only post stats from the site most people associate with me.




note that this is AFTER all ibill fees, and is the actual wire money sent out...

__________________
we'll miss you our friend. RIP

LasseKongos

Our top webmasters makes much much more then that numbers!

V_RocKs

Simple enough for Sean, a bit of googling for Jdog...

imafuckingaussie

Excuse my ignorance quiet. What site are your stats from? What sources of traffic? Highest number I've ever seen on GFY, very nice to see indeed. Your tax would suck big time though I guess. (

__________________

You can get it ploughing a paddock, you can get it makin some porn sites, matter of fact I've got it now.

For a hard earned thrist, you need a big cold beer.

dgboy

Very interesting thread.

FWIW when ARS was running smoothly 15 or so sales a day used to keep me at about 100th position, from conversations with some bigger fish number 5 position could have been 80 or so a day.

I Wouldda love to have known what it took to get to number 1

Stats are fascinating

Trax

a lot of people here are living in a dream world.

beemk

i think you missed his point. he doesnt want to take on their traffic because he doesnt have the time to answer their questions, etc. i respect that compared to a company that will let them be an affiliate but not answer any questions or help them out.

__________________
I host with Vacares

Netmax

Theo

ClamSmacker

Speed Bump

Sexy Rex

Really? Then post your top100

__________________

WWW.ISTRIPPER.COM Unique Desktop Strippers since 1998, 20+ Millions users, 3000+ Girls to choose from, All UHD Exclusive Content.

OnTime

Varius

Not too bad

We make more, but then again have to payout affiliates and other expenses.

One thing I notice though, you're paying around 15% processor fees? Shouldn't you get a lower one for that volume with IBill??

__________________
Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

jpv

Exactly. I don't have a problem with people making a few thousand a month and I don't mean to put them down. That is a good living. I just run a site that I advertise by myself. I would not have the time to have alot of affiliates and help them out in a way to make everyone more money. Now if they can send a minimum amount of sales per day to make it worth my time I would be willing to spend the time with the few affiliates.

Everyone who is talking about diversification must understand something. Diversification does not mean you need to use 20 programs. Find a few solid programs and go with them. There are so many webmasters doing 50 sales a day in the teen market. If I can get them to send half of their traffic to my site then they will still be diversified enough. Warren Buffett for a while had all of his money invested in 3 companies. He said if you find a couple solid companies that are out performing other companies why would you put some money in the mediocre companies just for the sake of diversification. Just do your homework. Then you can diversify outside of the adult business.

Shap

Awesome stats Quiet. Thanks for posting them. Always love seeing them. You've increased your number of members a couple thousand over the past year. NICE JOB!

Oldy

very cool stats,
most of the people who have gallery setups for their affiliates will just recieve partial traffic (like most affiliates will signup to like 20 sponsors and use all of their gallery links),

I only centralize with 4-5 good sponsors, but i also use a lot of sponsors and only send $3-4k a month

Good work guys!

Mishi

I did misunderstand and your point is well taken. Good thoughts on diversification, too.

__________________
Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.

Varius

Not really.....lots of sponsors (well atleast us), get SE traffic, mailer campaigns, etc...

Affiliates are just one piece

__________________
Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

studio

Wish I had 100 active affiliates promoting the Girls of Pineapplepink.... Some day....

__________________

Myst

bump

__________________
ICQ: 298-523-037

iwantu

Not really!

We send 350 checks per month! and this is only the top 100.
But since it is LIVE, you can estimate how much traffic and money our affiliates are making per hour

__________________

andrej_NDC

it dont costs the affiliate ZERO! The affiliate has to pay for hosting, traffic, etc. And the most imporant he spends the time with promoting your sites. If he push you and maked $200/day and could make $300/day with other program, he is losing $100 each day...time is very expensive, because its very limited, so no, its not free to promote you or any other sponsor.

Bake

No balls to post your stats thou

__________________
Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more.
Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

johndoebob

I always wonder about that support thing, I can understand that some people only give big site owners a chance because because they don't want to have their sites over promoted that fast but I wonder who really needs support all day?

I never need support beside I loose my pass (that happens once or twice in a lifetime when my comp crashes or whatever).Mostly sales reps bother me as if they were experienced webmasters who could improve anything I can't do.I ask myself what kind of other support a sponsor had to do when they just would ignore the clueless newbies who ask how to make money after signing up and don't get them any money anyway.

__________________