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Old 08-23-2004, 06:05 PM   #51
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:05 PM   #52
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heh, I really thought some of the top guys would be making more with lightspeed.
This is funny -- wasn't someone recently saying that Lightspeed was "saturated?" --- which would you rather have?

We have a legion of small affiliates --- I'd rather be supported by a solid base of "small bricks" than hanging from a couple of "large ropes", ya know?

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Old 08-23-2004, 06:06 PM   #53
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2 Burlington, Canada $4,055.96
3 Burlington, Canada $3,851.03

i wonder who that may be
I have a feeling they're the same affiliate and I think I know whom too

Ohhh, I see I made the cut on that list too!
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:07 PM   #54
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I would wager clickcash top 100 looks better.
Possibly, but I am speaking of sponsors in terms of adult sites. Clickcash is in a different genre (web cams).
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:07 PM   #55
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100 clicks wouldnt tell me anything man, I convert 1:700, and send tens of thousands of clicks a day. This traffic has never converted better with any other sponsor.
With 100 clicks, you will convert with us! you do not need more to see the difference

If you can send thousands of clicks per day, we will give you full domain co-branding as well!
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:12 PM   #56
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With 100 clicks, you will convert with us! you do not need more to see the difference

If you can send thousands of clicks per day, we will give you full domain co-branding as well!

So I'll convert with 100 clicks, when NO OTHER SPONSOR has converted better than 1:750? Can I get $5000 if I dont have a sale after 100 clicks?
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:15 PM   #57
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:18 PM   #58
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So I'll convert with 100 clicks, when NO OTHER SPONSOR has converted better than 1:750? Can I get $5000 if I dont have a sale after 100 clicks?
Dude, what kind of traffic do you have? are we talking about dating traffic here? In 8 years in that business, I think i never saw dating traffic converting 1:750!

Our average overall conversion is 1:116. So with 100 clicks, you defenitely have strong change of converting. Plus, we are paying 50$ per signup! So you will most probably get 50$ for 100 clicks
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:23 PM   #59
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So I'll convert with 100 clicks, when NO OTHER SPONSOR has converted better than 1:750? Can I get $5000 if I dont have a sale after 100 clicks?
It's possible to not get one on 100 clicks....but let's try with 1000-2000 and if it's not pure trash traffic, I can guarentee you better than 1:750 EASY!!
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:54 PM   #60
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So I'll convert with 100 clicks, when NO OTHER SPONSOR has converted better than 1:750? Can I get $5000 if I dont have a sale after 100 clicks?
It is a deal!
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:59 PM   #61
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I'm just wondering how other programs' affiliates look like after the top 5 or 10......how much is your 100th place affiliate doing?

I think its important to have things spread out and not just rely on one big guy

- Our 100th place affiliate is looking at about $230 for this month....

- We will have 43 affiliates make over $1000 !

- Our top affiliate is looking at about $8400 this month.

- These are not even including 10% Referral commissions

Checkout our top100 for August - LIVE stats

I'm interested to hear how other sites do.
Thats a really nice idea.. I am sure that motivates a few people to try and do "better".
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:11 PM   #62
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This is a great thread. And it's going to be interesting to see iwantu and detoxed results.
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:26 PM   #63
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would be great if all sponsors provided a list like this, im very competitive so it'd only strive me to move up on the list.
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:42 PM   #64
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intereting, a couple of yer top aff are from china. Hope they don't get owned by the gov
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:49 PM   #65
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:54 PM   #66
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Top 3, two of them are from china interesting...
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Old 08-23-2004, 07:57 PM   #67
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it is motivating, im at #5 (Plantation) and climbing.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:01 PM   #68
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I have a feeling they're the same affiliate and I think I know whom too

Ohhh, I see I made the cut on that list too!
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:03 PM   #69
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We're both in there I bet
I bet were both in the top 30

And ranked 29 at TCG I make more than the #1 guys on the other lists.. quite a bit more. Not knocking thier programs I hear nothing but good words about them, I just thought there was alot more money being thrown around.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:12 PM   #70
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send those guys my way and ill cut you a great deal.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:17 PM   #71
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intereting, a couple of yer top aff are from china. Hope they don't get owned by the gov
These two people from China have been on our top 10 list for 13 months now, so they are pretty legit.

Already checked them
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:21 PM   #72
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.....these days lots of affiliates are splitting their traffic between many programs to avoid losing out big if someone screws them.
Interesting point. I bet many of the top promotors out there, are not those on those top100 lists.

Some sponsor wrote me; We have not recieved any signups from you past month. Please tell us, if we can do anything to help.
Hmm...I don't know, I had 1.500 signups for another sites, so I'm not sure what you can do...to help yourself.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:22 PM   #73
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This is a great thread. And it's going to be interesting to see iwantu and detoxed results.
Be more interesting to know why detoxed thought the thread needed his 2 cents in the first place. Seems like he only joined in as a spoiler. Doesn't the guy have enough sig views already?
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:28 PM   #74
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Interesting point. I bet many of the top promotors out there, are not those on those top100 lists.

Some sponsor wrote me; We have not recieved any signups from you past month. Please tell us, if we can do anything to help.
Hmm...I don't know, I had 1.500 signups for another sites, so I'm not sure what you can do...to help yourself.
If an affiliate stops completely sending traffic to a sponsor, that's because the sponser is not working well for him/her.

However, if an affiliate splits his traffic among his top sponsors, that means he/she is trying to be smart.

On IwantU, we ask our affiliates to send us most of their traffic, but we know that almost no affiliates will send all their traffic like years ago.
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:39 PM   #76
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recurring option better? i know it is with most date sites.
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5k goes along way in shanghai, they must be pimpin
I thought Shanghai banned ALL porn period and that it is illegal period to sell porn on the net, I think they even censor the news and internet and jailed some people for selling (any type of) porn there. The one peson making over 2k in Ukraine must be making bank too, I read that people make on average a few hundred dollars a month there so that's big pimpin!
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recurring option better? i know it is with most date sites.
It definately is. However we still offer PPS for those who want a quick buck, or who like to test a program before going Revshare.

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It is! In good dating sites, some members will renew for years!
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The interesting thing too is that a lot of those affiliates promote multiple sites, so when you see an affiliate bringing in $5k on lightspeed, he/she is probably pulling in similar amounts on mulitple sponsors. Many of the people that know how to promote and make coin stick to multiple revenue streams to fall back onto.
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Old 08-24-2004, 05:20 AM   #81
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'' S.H, China $6,331.45
2 Independence, Missouri, United States $6,026.79
3 Shanghai, China $5,793.22 ''

China?
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China?
he/she must be living like a king
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China?
They both seem to be legit....number 1 there has been consistently in the top 5 for 17 months now. We've monitored his patterns, conversions and chargebacks and nothing fishy...luckily
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wow... to be honest... this thread scares me a little.
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wow... to be honest... this thread scares me a little.
You mean that the top affiliates don't make that much? I agree. I thought I maybe read it wrong. The 6.5K is MONTHLY? or weekly/daily?

Or that your city might be listed in the future? I always liked the ARS WM rank. But after all changes, suddenly I was top 10 lol

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Really awesome that programs are willing to show their success.

Next step would be to know / place a category for where the traffic / signups are coming from; mailers or website, etc.

Kudos to Iwantu.com and Lightspeed Cash!

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If an affiliate stops completely sending traffic to a sponsor, that's because the sponser is not working well for him/her.

However, if an affiliate splits his traffic among his top sponsors, that means he/she is trying to be smart.

On IwantU, we ask our affiliates to send us most of their traffic, but we know that almost no affiliates will send all their traffic like years ago.

I send traffic to 200 + sponsors. Some get 50 clicks a month. Some get several hundred thousand.
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I'd like to see top 100 for TCG, ND, TB, SIC, SC, and PlB
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Really awesome that programs are willing to show their success.

Next step would be to know / place a category for where the traffic / signups are coming from; mailers or website, etc.

Kudos to Iwantu.com and Lightspeed Cash!

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That actually a great idea

I'm very surprised though that most other programs don't seem to offer a top100...it's not like it's hard to implement
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No other sponsors have the balls to post their stats???
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No other sponsors have the balls to post their stats???
Guess not.....that doesn't look too good for them.

I would have expected more than just Lightspeed to step up though.
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I was fascinated to see the Lightspeed list when it popped up on their site the other day. Like others, I thought there would be a few more peeps in the above-$1k crew. Steve, please don't take that badly -- it just means your marketing-to-potential-affiliates is working. I look at that list and I see opportunity. "What? If that's all the affiliate promotion those awesome sites are getting, there's still room for me!"

However, I'm not suprised at how few big sponsors publish a similar list. Such lists offer strong hints at gross revenues (although only hints, given the many other streams of revenue a paysite owner is likely to have) and there are lots of good business reasons for a business owner to prefer to keep that sort of info under his hat.
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Why believe what the sponsors tell you, when there are MANY, MANY impartial voices in the marketplace that will tell you who's number one?

For example:

http://hoes.com/sponsors/

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http://hoes.com/sponsors/

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Impartial would be without ref codes dicktard
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Impartial would be without ref codes dicktard
nice spam tho

I wouldn't consider that spam, since I'm not even sure who the person is that posted that!

And to back up my sponsor page, I would like to point out that there are three sponsors on that list that don't have referral links:

Bang Bros
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Dollarmachine

Those rankings are taken straight from StatsRemote. No doctoring involved.

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nice spam tho
So wait -- what you're saying is a 3rd party Webmaster with lots of experience and DATA promoting many different programs is somehow LESS impartial than the sponsor himself? That's absurd.

And personally, I can't think of anybody out there who:

1. Knows what they're talking about, when they talk about program conversions,

AND

2. Would be foolish enough to send ANYBODY traffic without a ref-code.

Most GFYers have somebody's ref-code in their sigs. It's the way endorsements are made here. It's the way GFY personas associate themsleves with the sponsors who've done well by them. Hoes.com is doing that AND substantiating it with stats. The ethics of that look pretty sound to me.

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So wait -- what you're saying is a 3rd party Webmaster with lots of experience and DATA promoting many different programs is somehow LESS impartial than the sponsor himself? That's absurd.

And personally, I can't think of anybody out there who:

1. Knows what they're talking about, when they talk about program conversions,

AND

2. Would be foolish enough to send ANYBODY traffic without a ref-code.

Most GFYers have somebody's ref-code in their sigs. It's the way endorsements are made here. It's the way GFY personas associate themsleves with the sponsors who've done well by them. Hoes.com is doing that AND substantiating it with stats. The ethics of that look pretty sound to me.

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PS: For the record, my opinion IS biased.

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