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PornKings I have questions
I am thinking of signing up with your affiliate program but.. If the 30 day membership is a buck why when i click on the websites at porkings.com does it say a 3 day trial for $4.95 i thought a trila for 60 seconds is free? And you only promote your $1 monthly subscription on your exit console? Im not bitchin just want to get the facts straight, help me out, thanks.
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the time it took you to write that you could have rubbed one out
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nah juicy thats your area of expertice
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the porn4abuck link code goes to a different splash page.. with 30 days for a dollar..
178486845 message me on ICQ, I'll help you
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Thanks DJ furious. if he didn't help you out hit me up all my Info is on Pornkings. we have 3 Pay per trial programs Free trials: 1hour/60min trial Porn4abuck: $1 trial 4 a month Paid trial program: 3 day paid trial like most other programs coming this week we will have one more Sunny Money
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pornkings it is an awesome program i dont know how you do it, but its not my problem as long as you pay me
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No prob you will get paid. You can also change the color of the stats inside. alot a kewl features. you can build sub acounts to monitor your traffic better if you have differant traffic sources
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Whats with bumping a fucking old thread???
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=344049&s=
for the same reason people bump other old threads ![]()
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How do they do it? It's quite simple really.
Go to beyondbizzare.com porn4abuck link. Go to the join page. At the bottom of the page, you will see that there are 2 additional "$1 for 4 days" trials prechecked on the order form. The consumer has already shown that he/she is inticed by $1 offers, so chances are very good that they will also take advantage of these offers. So, then they cancel at the end of 4 days, and pornkings only makes $3, right? Uh-uh Click on the Terms and Conditions link. (Which, statistically, very few people do). A couple of 100 words in you will see the following clause: "If you purchase a trial subscription, and decide to terminate your trial subscription, you must do so AT LEAST one (1) day prior to the end of the Trial Period " So, after 3 days, the consumer is actually in for a charge of $39.98. Plus, extend this out to the end of the month, when the original beyondbizzare membership renews, and the consumer doesn't get charged $1..they don't get charged $19.98...nope they get $37.12. And when do they get charged this..again 1 day before end of trial. Add on to that the 8 pop-ups that the front page spawns...alll offers that pornkings won't have to pay out any affiliate commissions on...and it's pretty easy to see how they can pay $20 or more to the affiliate for every join. So, how do they do it..the same way a number of the "big" players do it. By clever slight of hand...And by keeping the offers on the cusp of being legal...through T & C's that they know the average consumer will never read or see. And even if they do read the T & C's. then the question must be asked...is a 4 day trial 96 hours. Is it todays date, plus 3 more days, ending at midnight. And if midnight, by whose time zone...Pornkings' or the consumer's. So you see, even if the consumer does read the T & C's, the cards are still stacked in Pronkings favor. |
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PKings is just trying to push my posts back because they are true and Roger V knows it.
You KNOW who made Pornkings...he still tells Roger what to do- like a little bitch. |
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So does this PerfectCash Jeff work at Pornkings or not? I can't seem to get a straight answer.
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First off you are an idiot and everyone knows this Second they are cross sells like 99% of the other sponsors use. If you don't like exits we have the option to promote our sites without them you just get paid a little less. and we give our surfers a full month to cancel with our sites I'm not worried the webmasters with traffic know the deal you need to learn how to spin things right if you want to try and slander us. LMAO Webmasters know how we convert http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=344049&s=
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Just ask anyone in the business. why do I even waste my time replying to you. ![]()
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And my "spin" is the simple facts..black and white. No fancy language..no trickery...and we both know that this is the way the game is played. And, as always...I am not concerned that "the webmasters know the deal". Of course this type of program converts..but unfortunately at the expense of the consumer. |
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Once again you avoided my question, does this Perfectcash Jeff work with you or not?
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The consumer gets an email right away. they can choose to cancel the writing is on the pages not our fault if the surfers are scammers which most are. who really wants to pay for porn if they can get it free?
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Its called defense. When you are guilty- you feel the need to defend. Atleast I can sleep at night. -10....... does that ring a bell? and I will stand on this box all day long!![]() |
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Old news but here it is again Yes he still works on the perfectioncash side. for about a year. I don't need to go into detail lets just say he paid for his fuck ups. which have nothing to do with Pornkings. If you don't like Jeff send traffic to Pornkings he has 0 involvment there and never will.
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Thank god you don't run Costco...I for one would be pretty pissed off if when I got my Visa bill to find that they had automatically charged my bill for the "free sample" I was served in their aisles. After all, I had no intention to purchase the goods...just wanted to try it for free. Damn, I can't believe it..I am a Costco Scammer....Oprah here I come. Please help me.... |
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I said surfers know how to scam and get porn free. It is very easy to cancel a trial or a membership we use Paycom and ccbill. If you ran a program or had sites you would understand. I am sorry you did not succeed in this industry and you feel bitter. try flipping burgers
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You still conduct business in a way to respond to what you call the "scamming surfer". Spin it however you want. I do not doubt that it is easy to cancel a membership. But, unfortunately, the average consumer will assume that a 4 day trial is a 4 day trial. Not 3 days. So, when they go to cancel, it is already to late. And they have just been charged $39.98. You know my facts above are accurate. The only thing that is weak here is your response. And the whole "flipping fries" thing...that response didn't work for 12Clicks and it won't work for you. But, then again, it has nothing to do with the facts I have laid out. This is the only industry I know of where business owners, like yourself, believe that a proper response is equivelent to "yah, but your dad makes less money then my dad". That's why I still contend that many of you wouldn't last a day in mainstream. So, to summarize, your whole business model depends on the consumer not reading terms and conditions fully, or otherwise being tricked. Until you develop a business model that relies on the consumer willingly jumping on your product, and renewing because they choose to renew..not because they missed a cancellation date or misunderstood...until that date, you remain a bottom dweller in the business world. |
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I give up maybe someone else can explain it to 49th and prettynot.
going back into retirement. soon Dave will be Posting as Pornkings Want to make money hit me up on our Support board
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How do they do it? It's quite simple really. Go to beyondbizzare.com porn4abuck link. Go to the join page. At the bottom of the page, you will see that there are 2 additional "$1 for 4 days" trials prechecked on the order form. The consumer has already shown that he/she is inticed by $1 offers, so chances are very good that they will also take advantage of these offers. So, then they cancel at the end of 4 days, and pornkings only makes $3, right? Uh-uh Click on the Terms and Conditions link. (Which, statistically, very few people do). A couple of 100 words in you will see the following clause: "If you purchase a trial subscription, and decide to terminate your trial subscription, you must do so AT LEAST one (1) day prior to the end of the Trial Period " So, after 3 days, the consumer is actually in for a charge of $39.98. Plus, extend this out to the end of the month, when the original beyondbizzare membership renews, and the consumer doesn't get charged $1..they don't get charged $19.98...nope they get $37.12. And when do they get charged this..again 1 day before end of trial. Add on to that the 8 pop-ups that the front page spawns...alll offers that pornkings won't have to pay out any affiliate commissions on...and it's pretty easy to see how they can pay $20 or more to the affiliate for every join. So, how do they do it..the same way a number of the "big" players do it. By clever slight of hand...And by keeping the offers on the cusp of being legal...through T & C's that they know the average consumer will never read or see. And even if they do read the T & C's. then the question must be asked...is a 4 day trial 96 hours. Is it todays date, plus 3 more days, ending at midnight. And if midnight, by whose time zone...Pornkings' or the consumer's. So you see, even if the consumer does read the T & C's, the cards are still stacked in Pronkings favor. |
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Yeah he does... PornKings and PerfectionCash/Girls are the same company. They don't like to admit that though b/c Jeff is a full fledged scammer just like they are. See: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...adid=342869&s=
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you have no clue what your talking about.
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And, I again state that this practice is not unique to Pornkings. Most of the big players use this same approach. But, that doesn't make it any more acceptable. |
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Nope just PornKings and PerfectionCash
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Ahhah Yeah now I am the scammer? LMFAO You have been exposed! Don't try to flip shit around on me like you guys are so good at doing. You never want to admit the truth. Fess up to everyone Roger and tell them how your entire Corp. is backed with people from the industry who have scammed constantly to get ahead. Go back into retirement now like the good bitch you are. Do what daddy says you lamer. ![]() Roger & Brian
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Hey prettyone you have icq or aim?
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Years ago, the Magazine business and some other industry segments used similar misleading practices. These have all long since been cleaned up by federal legislation. The porn industry remains one of the few remaining "legal" enterprises to still get away with practices that would not be accepted in other segments. And how do they do it, you ask? Again the answer is simple. For local or federal politicians or agencies to regulate the industry more closely would imply that they are in a way accepting the industry. A headline in the New York Times, saying "Gov. (insert name here) pushes regulations through cabinet to regulate porn industry free trials" would be interpreted by most citizens to say "the Gov. supports Porn, as he is not simply shutting it down". It's a no-win situation for regulators. So, in the meantime, the adult industry gets to continue to stretchhhhh the limits of acceptable business practices. |
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are you kidding me you really have no clue. Idiot every sponsor who pays per trial or sale has cross sales on there join pages. Like I said show me a sponsor that doesn't
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http://geocities.com/marvadexposed/
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I for one join every single site that I wish to promote. I Read the T & C's from end to end...and even carefully track the email offers that can be traced back to the sponsor. With a little research, it's easy to determine how the game is played....And to decide if you want to make your money by slight of hand. |
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I agree with that. A little research shows a lot too http://geocities.com/marvadexposed/
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I really feel sorry for you like I said we convert
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You scam not convert.
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Jeff IS A
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