high end domain buying, holding and selling - GoFuckYourself.com

quiet · 08-21-2004, 09:48 PM

how much are the top people making? i know Webfather is worth millions, but how many more are making mid 6 to low 7 figures/year, just with the domain market? just curious as to what the potential is - seems like a hard business to scale up since there are only so many quality domains...

AVM · 08-21-2004, 09:50 PM

I am.

Doctor Dre · 08-21-2004, 09:51 PM

I doubt there are more then 50 people making nice money from the business ... you need a lot of money already to jump in

Steen2 · 08-21-2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by AVM
I am.

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Steen2 · 08-21-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
I doubt there are more then 50 people making nice money from the business ... you need a lot of money already to jump in

One of the dumbest things I have read all night.

sextoyking · 08-21-2004, 09:56 PM

Quiet,

Good questions there.

Domain buying and selling is like anything. You try and buy low or at a good price and sell high.

We bought tons of domains in the old days and if the price is right, we sell 2-3 a year or so. Unless it's a super generic word or has good typins / traffic, always be careful and study before buying.

Kinda like the stock market, speculation you know. Like I got oilforsale.com a few years back, not that good of a name at all, but you know everytime there is a gas crunch or prices are going up alot, I get 3-6 emails about selling that domain

Lots of other examples you know.

With a bit of a shitty economy right now, it's a good time to buy some domains and put them away for awhile.

Chris · 08-21-2004, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Quiet,

Good questions there.

Domain buying and selling is like anything. You try and buy low or at a good price and sell high.

We bought tons of domains in the old days and if the price is right, we sell 2-3 a year or so. Unless it's a super generic word or has good typins / traffic, always be careful and study before buying.

Kinda like the stock market, speculation you know. Like I got oilforsale.com a few years back, not that good of a name at all, but you know everytime there is a gas crunch or prices are going up alot, I get 3-6 emails about selling that domain Lots of other examples you know.

With a bit of a shitty economy right now, it's a good time to buy some domains and put them away for awhile.

Todd gots some good ones

EscortBiz · 08-21-2004, 10:00 PM

im buying

Dax · 08-21-2004, 10:06 PM

Im buying spanish domains!

WiredGuy · 08-21-2004, 10:08 PM

I imagine Slavik is doing pretty well in the game.
WG

sextoyking · 08-21-2004, 10:08 PM

WG,

Slavik knows the domain industry very well

quiet · 08-21-2004, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
I imagine Slavik is doing pretty well in the game.
WG

no doubt.

and i am also buying, but extremely cautiously. sometimes i think it would be a good idea just to hire someone knowledgable in the field in order to allow me to move a little quicker...

BRISK · 08-21-2004, 10:29 PM

herbal.com is for sale @ $85,000

It's caught my attention

KRL · 08-21-2004, 10:32 PM

I've got a strategy in place and its working perfectly so far.

czarkazm · 08-21-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
no doubt.

and i am also buying, but extremely cautiously. sometimes i think it would be a good idea just to hire someone knowledgable in the field in order to allow me to move a little quicker...

What type of return are you looking to generate? There are a number of ways to play the game: generic acquisition/resell, ppc income, development, etc.

Say you invested $500k in domains this year, how much would you want back same time next year?

KRL · 08-21-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by czarkazm
What type of return are you looking to generate? There are a number of ways to play the game: generic acquisition/resell, ppc income, development, etc.

Say you invested $500k in domains this year, how much would you want back same time next year?

I hate predictable guaranteed returns.

That's not fun or exciting at all.

Alex · 08-21-2004, 10:41 PM

Im doing a okay per month.

I buy domains for cheap and sale for a bit more.

Current domains i just got my hands on.

Kills.Info (received offers at $50+) (paid $6 for it)
6KA.net (reg fee) (appraised at $20 min)

And a lot more domains.

Its not much that i make but im not heavily in the biz

Chris · 08-21-2004, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
Im doing a okay per month.

I buy domains for cheap and sale for a bit more.

Current domains i just got my hands on.

Kills.Info (received offers at $50+) (paid $6 for it)
6KA.net (reg fee) (appraised at $20 min)

And a lot more domains.

Its not much that i make but im not heavily in the biz

that is a pretty good way to start small in the biz

reg em .. sell em for 20$ build a nest egg and start buying better domains at say 100$ .... ect

Alex · 08-21-2004, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
that is a pretty good way to start small in the biz

reg em .. sell em for 20$ build a nest egg and start buying better domains at say 100$ .... ect

Best way. But regging is a business in its self.
I read and pay attention to it a lot, its like a hobby.

For example some fucktard let 7e.org expire today.
Guess how hard it would be to just "reg" that domain.

For me, i started off searching and finding GOOD domains for $3-$8

Domains that i bought for less than $8:
6ka.net (the character)
Kills.info (one word)
TheGameTalk.com (getting offers on this)

And some more

Chris · 08-21-2004, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
Best way. But regging is a business in its self.
I read and pay attention to it a lot, its like a hobby.

For example some fucktard let 7e.org expire today.
Guess how hard it would be to just "reg" that domain.

For me, i started off searching and finding GOOD domains for $3-$8

Domains that i bought for less than $8:
6ka.net (the character)
Kills.info (one word)
TheGameTalk.com (getting offers on this)

And some more

Good stuff , im lookin at domains now hehe

you got any good domain forums ? for selling / buying /aparasels?

KRL · 08-21-2004, 10:50 PM

The hardest thing in the domain biz is not buying, but selling your precious domains.

Once you get hooked it's very difficult to part with your properties.

It's like art collecting. You fall in love with your paintings and no matter how much you get offered you just don't want to let go of them.

You wouldn't believe the offers I've turned down on some of mine and its only going to get worse when we do TV this fall.

Alex · 08-21-2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
Good stuff , im lookin at domains now hehe

you got any good domain forums ? for selling / buying /aparasels?

Im huge at NamePros.com
You would like it.

Different attitude though. Hard posting at GFY then going there and having to watch what you say

Chris · 08-21-2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
The hardest thing in the domain biz is not buying, but selling your precious domains.

Once you get hooked it's very difficult to part with your properties.

It's like art collecting. You fall in love with your paintings and no matter how much you get offered you just don't want to let go of them.

You wouldn't believe the offers I've turned down on some of mine and its only going to get worse when we do TV this fall.

KRL ... but if you are in the buying and selling biz you relaly dont get attached to the domain so you really dont care if you sell it

as long as you get money out of it...

Alex · 08-21-2004, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
KRL ... but if you are in the buying and selling biz you relaly dont get attached to the domain so you really dont care if you sell it

as long as you get money out of it...

Very well said. You are in this to make money. Its a lot eaiser selling just a domain then it is a whole site

KRL · 08-21-2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
KRL ... but if you are in the buying and selling biz you relaly dont get attached to the domain so you really dont care if you sell it

as long as you get money out of it...

I'm not talking about the regular ones. Just the gems.

When you buy something for a mil and someone says I'll give you 5 for it and you havn't even had it in your portfolio for a a couple months yet and you say no thanks not interested.

quiet · 08-21-2004, 10:55 PM

another question. right now i use directnic for new domains i've been buying. how secure is it? what are people using for security?

quiet · 08-21-2004, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I'm not talking about the regular ones. Just the gems.

When you buy something for a mil and someone says I'll give you 5 for it and you havn't even had it in your portfolio for a a couple months yet and you say no thanks not interested.

yeah, that would be prettty tough lol

BRISK · 08-21-2004, 10:58 PM

I see so much domain buying and selling, but not enough domain developing and branding.

IMO developing and branding is where the real money is, not just buying/selling.

Alex · 08-21-2004, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I'm not talking about the regular ones. Just the gems.

When you buy something for a mil and someone says I'll give you 5 for it and you havn't even had it in your portfolio for a a couple months yet and you say no thanks not interested.

Think of it this way. You bought a domain with intentions of developing it, and you mihght have already started. Its hard to part with it.

I own atleast 4 GREAT domains that would make GREAT sites just sitting around. When i get an offer i will sell, no attachment

BRISK · 08-21-2004, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
another question. right now i use directnic for new domains i've been buying. how secure is it? what are people using for security?

http://www.directnic.com/help/faq/in...385&topic_id=8

fr8 · 08-21-2004, 11:00 PM

General words are the only thing that I look for in this market. Only problem that I have found is getting one.

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
I see so much domain buying and selling, but not enough domain developing and branding.

IMO developing and branding is where the real money is, not just buying/selling.

How's that song go. Oh yeh,

B I N G O, B I N G O, B I N G O, and Bingo was his name o.

Alex · 08-21-2004, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
I see so much domain buying and selling, but not enough domain developing and branding.

IMO developing and branding is where the real money is, not just buying/selling.

Not quite. Unless you have the time and money then go for it.

But i have had situations like this:

Got a domain at an auction for $7. Great Name.

Put it on sale that same day and bank $20+

$20 for a few mins work

quiet · 08-21-2004, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
I see so much domain buying and selling, but not enough domain developing and branding.

IMO developing and branding is where the real money is, not just buying/selling.

certainly. but what i admire so much about domain buying/selling is that it is so ultra low maintenance. just amazing. as soon as you get into development, it loses that aspect.

AVM · 08-21-2004, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
Im huge at NamePros.com
You would like it.

NamePros is newbie heaven.

KRL - At the moment, I think buying is the hardest thing to do in this biz. Not due to lack of capital or acquisition power. But rather due to over-saturation, competition, and overall scarcity of these names. Additionally, the late 90's bubble didn't help these original domain owners with gauging the market value of their domain name. The deals, at least in my opinion, are becoming harder and harder to find. Those rare deals that are in fact out there, are becoming swooped up immediately. Hundreds of speculators doing bulk lists of emails each day, fishing for domains.

Alex · 08-21-2004, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by fr8
General words are the only thing that I look for in this market. Only problem that I have found is getting one.

I have Kills.Info for sale. Make offer

WiredGuy · 08-21-2004, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
http://www.directnic.com/help/faq/in...385&topic_id=8

I would never trust directnic again after my experience with them.
WG

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
another question. right now i use directnic for new domains i've been buying. how secure is it? what are people using for security?

Hook up with Monte at Moniker.com Quiet. Rick and I use his firm.

He answers the phone himself and will give you personalized service.

Its like having a private investment banker which is what you should have in your league.

Alex · 08-21-2004, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
NamePros is newbie heaven.

KRL - At the moment, I think buying is the hardest thing to do in this biz. Not due to lack of capital or acquisition power. But rather due to over-saturation, competition, and overall scarcity of these names. Additionally, the late 90's bubble didn't help these original domain owners with gauging the market value of their domain name. The deals, at least in my opinion, are becoming harder and harder to find. Those rare deals that are in fact out there, are becoming swooped up immediately. Hundreds of speculators doing bulk lists of emails each day, fishing for domains.

That really gets too me. Im fairly young and wasnt around during that period of time. I know that if i was born 10 years before, i would have made millions on the net. Through domains, sites, etc

BRISK · 08-21-2004, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
Not quite. Unless you have the time and money then go for it.

But i have had situations like this:

Got a domain at an auction for $7. Great Name.

Put it on sale that same day and bank $20+

$20 for a few mins work

No offense, but that is so small time, that it is just a waste of time.

As a return on your investment, yes, buying at $7 and selling at $20 is a good ROI, but you would have to be able to do that like 20 times a day (every day) to even start making some worthwhile money.

quiet · 08-21-2004, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Hook up with Monte at Moniker.com Quiet. Rick and I use his firm.

He answers the phone himself and will give you personalized service.

Its like having a private investment banker which is what you should have in your league.

thanks

Alex · 08-21-2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
No offense, but that is so small time, that it is just a waste of time.

As a return on your investment, yes, buying at $7 and selling at $20 is a good ROI, but you would have to be able to do that like 20 times a day (every day) to even start making some worthwhile money.

1. Domain biz is more of a hobby for me.

And im not in it to make worthwhile money. I probably could if i took a few grand in as investment.

I dont know. On average $80 a week profit for me from domains

69pornlinks · 08-21-2004, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g

For example some fucktard let 7e.org expire today.
Guess how hard it would be to just "reg" that domain.

haha, i saw that too, i tried and tired and fucking tried...i guess somebody is scooping it up

sextoyking · 08-21-2004, 11:06 PM

Quiet,

Directnic is fine and secure in my opinion, and if you ever need quick help or whatever, Mikeai is always around

To be safe, always lock your domains, at least the good ones

----------

Brisk,

Well said on branding, etc. Were starting to do that soon with new stores opening up at,

perfumestore.com, cookiestore.com, and cookieshop.com

should be fun

Alex · 08-21-2004, 11:07 PM

BTW- i am doing my homework and will start branding domains and selling as developed sites.

Get good domain, install script and design, build PR and traffic and sell.

These are small sites and looking for profit of $150+ per site hopefully.

Chris · 08-21-2004, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Quiet,

Directnic is fine and secure in my opinion, and if you ever need quick help or whatever, Mikeai is always around

To be safe, always lock your domains, at least the good ones

----------

Brisk,

Well said on branding, etc. Were starting to do that soon with new stores opening up at,

perfumestore.com, cookiestore.com, and cookieshop.com

should be fun

need someone who can ship the cookies for your cookie domains ? I charge cookies

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
NamePros is newbie heaven.

KRL - At the moment, I think buying is the hardest thing to do in this biz. Not due to lack of capital or acquisition power. But rather due to over-saturation, competition, and overall scarcity of these names. Additionally, the late 90's bubble didn't help these original domain owners with gauging the market value of their domain name. The deals, at least in my opinion, are becoming harder and harder to find. Those rare deals that are in fact out there, are becoming swooped up immediately. Hundreds of speculators doing bulk lists of emails each day, fishing for domains.

I totally disagree.

You have to be creative and think outside the box.

I just bought 10 domains on Friday. They were overlooked expired domains. I paid reg fee only. I put a deal together already with a buddy of mine that owns a company that specializes in the biz sector they theme too. They will make me back about about $25,000 to $50,000 a week with what we're doing with them.

Alex · 08-21-2004, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by 69pornlinks
haha, i saw that too, i tried and tired and fucking tried...i guess somebody is scooping it up

Wook up today and checked my droplist. I dont think i have ever seen a two character domain drop. I will find out more info on it later but i think becuase its a dot org it was open for regular registration. Someone probably got it for $9

The guy who dropped it is an idiot

AVM · 08-21-2004, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kaliboy2g
That really gets too me. Im fairly young and wasnt around during that period of time. I know that if i was born 10 years before, i would have made millions on the net. Through domains, sites, etc

Easier said then done, given your current foresight.

Looking back, we all have "what ifs" that could have made us millions, had we just "known what we do now". But we didn't, end of story. Thus, it's time to innovate new approaches for the future, rather than ponder those of which are of the past.

Alex · 08-21-2004, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I totally disagree.

You have to be creative and think outside the box.

I just bought 10 domains on Friday. They were overlooked expired domains. I paid reg fee only. I put a deal together already with a buddy of mine that owns a company that specializes in the biz sector they theme too. They will make me back about about $25,000 to $50,000 a week with what we're doing with them.

Finding good expired or un-regged domains is hard but i have done it myself. They do pay off and are worth the $8-$10

08-21-2004, 09:48 PM	#1
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	high end domain buying, holding and selling how much are the top people making? i know Webfather is worth millions, but how many more are making mid 6 to low 7 figures/year, just with the domain market? just curious as to what the potential is - seems like a hard business to scale up since there are only so many quality domains... __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

08-21-2004, 09:56 PM	#6
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Quiet, Good questions there. Domain buying and selling is like anything. You try and buy low or at a good price and sell high. We bought tons of domains in the old days and if the price is right, we sell 2-3 a year or so. Unless it's a super generic word or has good typins / traffic, always be careful and study before buying. Kinda like the stock market, speculation you know. Like I got oilforsale.com a few years back, not that good of a name at all, but you know everytime there is a gas crunch or prices are going up alot, I get 3-6 emails about selling that domain Lots of other examples you know. With a bit of a shitty economy right now, it's a good time to buy some domains and put them away for awhile. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

08-21-2004, 10:00 PM	#8
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08-21-2004, 10:08 PM	#10
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	I imagine Slavik is doing pretty well in the game. WG __________________ I play with Google.

08-21-2004, 10:08 PM	#11
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	WG, Slavik knows the domain industry very well __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

08-21-2004, 09:50 PM	#2
AVM Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South Florida. Posts: 1,890	I am.

08-21-2004, 10:06 PM	#9
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	Im buying spanish domains!

08-21-2004, 10:29 PM	#13
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	herbal.com is for sale @ $85,000 It's caught my attention __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

08-21-2004, 10:32 PM	#14
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	I've got a strategy in place and its working perfectly so far.

08-21-2004, 10:41 PM	#17
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	Im doing a okay per month. I buy domains for cheap and sale for a bit more. Current domains i just got my hands on. Kills.Info (received offers at $50+) (paid $6 for it) 6KA.net (reg fee) (appraised at $20 min) And a lot more domains. Its not much that i make but im not heavily in the biz __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

08-21-2004, 10:50 PM	#21
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	The hardest thing in the domain biz is not buying, but selling your precious domains. Once you get hooked it's very difficult to part with your properties. It's like art collecting. You fall in love with your paintings and no matter how much you get offered you just don't want to let go of them. You wouldn't believe the offers I've turned down on some of mine and its only going to get worse when we do TV this fall.

08-21-2004, 10:55 PM	#26
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	another question. right now i use directnic for new domains i've been buying. how secure is it? what are people using for security? __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

08-21-2004, 10:58 PM	#28
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	I see so much domain buying and selling, but not enough domain developing and branding. IMO developing and branding is where the real money is, not just buying/selling. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

08-21-2004, 11:00 PM	#31
fr8 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,074	General words are the only thing that I look for in this market. Only problem that I have found is getting one. __________________ █ joesmut (a) gmail Dot com █ Full Stack Developer

08-21-2004, 11:06 PM	#44
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Quiet, Directnic is fine and secure in my opinion, and if you ever need quick help or whatever, Mikeai is always around To be safe, always lock your domains, at least the good ones ---------- Brisk, Well said on branding, etc. Were starting to do that soon with new stores opening up at, perfumestore.com, cookiestore.com, and cookieshop.com should be fun __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

08-21-2004, 11:07 PM	#45
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	BTW- i am doing my homework and will start branding domains and selling as developed sites. Get good domain, install script and design, build PR and traffic and sell. These are small sites and looking for profit of $150+ per site hopefully. __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?