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Alex · 08-21-2004, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by AVM
Easier said then done, given your current foresight.

Looking back, we all have "what ifs" that could have made us millions, had we just "known what we do now". But we didn't, end of story. Thus, it's time to innovate new approaches for the future, rather than ponder those of which are of the past.

I dont have what-ifs

I just didnt have the chance. Im 18 now. Can only leagally reg domains and do stuff now. Not 10 years ago when i could have made tons

Brujah · 08-21-2004, 11:14 PM

quiet · 08-21-2004, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah

i was wondering when you show up with one of your insightful posts

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
Finding good expired or un-regged domains is hard but i have done it myself. They do pay off and are worth the $8-$10

I try to always do opposite what the herd is doing.

I go and find the deals first or create the deals and then go and hunt the domains for the deals.

Everyone else seems to be doing it the other way around, buying domains and then figuring out what to do with them or who to sell them to.

AVM · 08-21-2004, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I totally disagree.

You have to be creative and think outside the box.

I just bought 10 domains on Friday. They were overlooked expired domains. I paid reg fee only. I put a deal together already with a buddy of mine that owns a company that specializes in the biz sector they theme too. They will make me back about about $25,000 to $50,000 a week with what we're doing with them.

No such thing as overlooked expired domains. Perhaps overlooked potential, but never overlooked expired domains. At least not reg-fee pickups. I assure you the hunters know what's out there, if your domains weren't picked up, it was for a reason.

This thread is in regard to high end domain speculating. Not registration fee pickups with potential. Any domain can be developed into a profitable website. However it takes a premium generic domain to pull 3x,4x, upto 10x's your initial investment within a week. Great profit margin when you consider the domain cost between $10k-$50k.

sextoyking · 08-21-2004, 11:16 PM

Can you be our taste tester Chris

Talking with a national company now to carry there products. About 200 diff. kinds of cookies, cakes, fudge, etc.

Perfumestore.com will be up in about 4 weeks, over 5k perfume / cologne products, etc. Great retail rates for consumers and a good commission for all affiliates.

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Originally posted by JupZChris
need someone who can ship the cookies for your cookie domains ? I charge cookies

Brujah · 08-21-2004, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i was wondering when you show up with one of your insightful posts

Are you gonna cry now ?

Chris · 08-21-2004, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i was wondering when you show up with one of your insightful posts

Gesh im slow ididnt know you had http://catalog.com/ ... i would use it as an information collection site... but my ideas are never any good :P

Brujah · 08-21-2004, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I totally disagree.

You have to be creative and think outside the box.

I just bought 10 domains on Friday. They were overlooked expired domains. I paid reg fee only. I put a deal together already with a buddy of mine that owns a company that specializes in the biz sector they theme too. They will make me back about about $25,000 to $50,000 a week with what we're doing with them.

Bro it's not the 10 $6.95 domain names that make the difference in your case tho, it's the insight and connections too.

AVM · 08-21-2004, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
I dont have what-ifs

I just didnt have the chance. Im 18 now. Can only leagally reg domains and do stuff now. Not 10 years ago when i could have made tons

Hey,

You wonder why you've not made it, you make excuses to justify your lack of success. Here's a hint buddy if you did not know, I'm under 21 myself. I'll leave it at that, as my A & E biography is not public domain (pun intended). Yet, I've still made a small, yet impactful splash in this business.

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by AVM
No such thing as overlooked expired domains. Perhaps overlooked potential, but never overlooked expired domains. At least not reg-fee pickups. I assure you the hunters know what's out there, if your domains weren't picked up, it was for a reason.

I'm seriously glad everyone keeps believing and thinking within the box like that.

Chris · 08-21-2004, 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking

Can you be our taste tester Chris

Talking with a national company now to carry there products. About 200 diff. kinds of cookies, cakes, fudge, etc.

Perfumestore.com will be up in about 4 weeks, over 5k perfume / cologne products, etc. Great retail rates for consumers and a good commission for all affiliates.

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jjjjjesssssussss i would be in heaven being a taste tester lol ... I know the owner of a candy store ... he makes home made fudge and what not ... if it is something you are interested in i can talk to him and see if he would be interested in doing wholesale fudge ... due is like 86... you may remember the candy store when you visted the beach .. been around for 30+ years .. Werners candys ... he is a good guy

Brujah · 08-21-2004, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
how much are the top people making? i know Webfather is worth millions, but how many more are making mid 6 to low 7 figures/year, just with the domain market? just curious as to what the potential is - seems like a hard business to scale up since there are only so many quality domains...

In a sense, it's' true there are only so many quality domains but for brokering the potential is still somewhat unlimited. Are you looking for development or simple reselling ? You can buy a quality name for say $5,000 from the right person and easily sell it for $50,000 the next day with no money. There's a method to this, and I know AVM for example has done this. There are brokers you can contact to find names for you, so that you don't have to do that work yourself.

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Bro it's not the 10 $6.95 domain names that make the difference in your case tho, it's the insight and connections too.

Well yeh Bru, but

Anyone can have insight.

Anyone can build connections.

And I certainly don't have a monopoly on either.

sextoyking · 08-21-2004, 11:21 PM

Avm,

Stop busting his balls already

you gotta give anyone kudos who starts at 18, buys low and makes a few bucks. Many people have started with these smaller margins and made 7figs + down the road in time.

stocktrader23 · 08-21-2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I'm seriously glad everyone keeps believing and thinking within the box like that.

I've found some wonderful domains in the deleted lists.

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Avm,

Stop busting his balls already

you gotta give anyone kudos who starts at 18, buys low and makes a few bucks. Many people have started with these smaller margins and made 7figs + down the road in time.

Everyone has their own way of playing the game.

Their own strategy and long or short term plans.

There are lots of ways to play. Lots of way to win.

People laughed at Rick's strategy for many years and they all are eating crow now.

sextoyking · 08-21-2004, 11:27 PM

Yeppers Kevin.

Rick would post alot. Still digging in those mines

Gotta give him kudos for the insight..

Brujah · 08-21-2004, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Yeppers Kevin.

Rick would post alot. Still digging in those mines

Gotta give him kudos for the insight..

Not just instinctive insight, but Rick also shares all his knowledge freely with almost anyone who will listen.

AVM · 08-21-2004, 11:36 PM

KRL this box you speak of, may I borrow yours. This is all I could find

BRISK · 08-21-2004, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by AVM
KRL this box you speak of, may I borrow yours. This is all I could find

quiet · 08-21-2004, 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
herbal.com is for sale @ $85,000

It's caught my attention

yeah, i saw that too. hmm...

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Not just instinctive insight, but Rick also shares all his knowledge freely with almost anyone who will listen.

Everytime I have lunch or dinner with Rick I learn something knew.

KRL · 08-21-2004, 11:58 PM

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Originally posted by AVM
KRL this box you speak of, may I borrow yours. This is all I could find

I like to think and play in multiple dimensions.

stocktrader23 · 08-21-2004, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by AVM
KRL this box you speak of, may I borrow yours. This is all I could find

Don't worry, we all know KRL has NO CLUE what he's talking about. You are my new idol.

BRISK · 08-22-2004, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
yeah, i saw that too. hmm...

If you look at the history of the site in archive.org it seems it hasn't changed design much since they bought it, and it has been for sale for years. In the years that they have owned it, they could have made so much more money with it, in fact, I can't see how they're making any money from it at all at the moment. From what I've seen, it wouldn't surprise me if they've never made any money from it.

Amazing.

quiet · 08-22-2004, 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
If you look at the history of the site in archive.org it seems it hasn't changed design much since they bought it, and it has been for sale for years. In the years that they have owned it, they could have made so much more money with it, in fact, I can't see how they're making any money from it at all at the moment. From what I've seen, it wouldn't surprise me if they've never made any money from it.

Amazing.

yeah, owned by some speaker/author guy. he runs webpagesthatdontsuck.com or something like that.

BRISK · 08-22-2004, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
yeah, owned by some speaker/author guy. he runs webpagesthatdontsuck.com or something like that.

I think his web page for herbal.com sucks

quiet · 08-22-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
I think his web page for herbal.com sucks

lol agreed. i emailed him just to find out what sort of type-ins he gets, but hasn't got back to me so far.

sextoyking · 08-22-2004, 12:13 AM

herbal.com is a good domain, but 85k, hmmm

BRISK · 08-22-2004, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
lol agreed. i emailed him just to find out what sort of type-ins he gets, but hasn't got back to me so far.

This is interesting:

http://web.archive.org/web/199910102...ww.herbal.com/

AVM · 08-22-2004, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Don't worry, we all know KRL has NO CLUE what he's talking about. You are my new idol.

KRL is very smart, moreso then I am. Mainly due to his age/first hand experience in business. I acknowledge this. However, at the same time, I find these "I registered 5 reg fee domains" and "I will make $25k-$50k weekly" comments to be very naive in context.

I do not care what fucking box you're looking outside of - Or how optimistic of a person you're. You will not make $25k-$50k off a handful of registration fee domains, in itself. Could you make that with millions in marketing? Sure. But not standalone.

Steen2 · 08-22-2004, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by AVM
KRL is very smart, moreso then I am. Mainly due to his age/first hand experience in business. I acknowledge this. However, at the same time, I find these "I registered 5 reg fee domains" and "I will make $25k-$50k weekly" comments to be very naive in context.

I do not care what fucking box you're looking outside of - Or how optimistic of a person you're. You will not make $25k-$50k off a handful of registration fee domains, in itself. Could you make that with millions in marketing? Sure. But not standalone.

I msut disagree. You can reg names with very little reseller value but to the right enduser the value can be quite high. Look at some of the "crap" that hits DNJ.

KRL · 08-22-2004, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by AVM
KRL is very smart, moreso then I am. Mainly due to his age/first hand experience in business. I acknowledge this. However, at the same time, I find these "I registered 5 reg fee domains" and "I will make $25k-$50k weekly" comments to be very naive in context.

I do not care what fucking box you're looking outside of - Or how optimistic of a person you're. You will not make $25k-$50k off a handful of registration fee domains, in itself. Could you make that with millions in marketing? Sure. But not standalone.

Well yeh, you're not going to make that kind of money just buying them and sitting on them.

You've got to figure out ingenious ways to transform them into money makers that no one else sees.

Steen2 · 08-22-2004, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
another question. right now i use directnic for new domains i've been buying. how secure is it? what are people using for security?

For security, nothing beats Monte (Moniker.com) in my opinion.

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g

For example some fucktard let 7e.org expire today.
Guess how hard it would be to just "reg" that domain.

When a 2 character .org domain drops it cannot be reregistered. However 2 character .com/net can.

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Avm,

Stop busting his balls already

you gotta give anyone kudos who starts at 18, buys low and makes a few bucks. Many people have started with these smaller margins and made 7figs + down the road in time.

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That really gets too me. Im fairly young and wasnt around during that period of time. I know that if i was born 10 years before, i would have made millions on the net. Through domains, sites, etc

It's so easy to say that now.

AVM · 08-22-2004, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Steen2
I msut disagree. You can reg names with very little reseller value but to the right enduser the value can be quite high. Look at some of the "crap" that hits DNJ.

Idiot, $25k-$50k weekly alludes to the revenue it is generating. Thus this implies website development, and not one time sales.

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, learn to read posts pole smoker.

Steen2 · 08-22-2004, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by AVM
Idiot, $25k-$50k weekly alludes to the revenue it is generating. Thus this implies website development, and not one time sales.

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, learn to read posts pole smoker.

My apologies

must*

AVM · 08-22-2004, 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
You've got to figure out ingenious ways to transform them into money makers that no one else sees.

Indeed, this was the point I was trying to make.

I mean with or without expired domains - If you've some ingenious idea, that will reinvent the wheel, yes you will succeed regardless. However, as stated earlier, you will not find a domain go uncaught, that has standalone potential. It's unfortunate, but true. Once I said this, you made the "think out of the box" statement, in an attempt to condescend my thoughts. Now, it seems we're in mutual agreement.

KRL · 08-22-2004, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by AVM
Idiot, $25k-$50k weekly alludes to the revenue it is generating. Thus this implies website development, and not one time sales.

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, learn to read posts pole smoker.

We're all getting toooo uptight.

Remember at the end of the line it's all just a game and you don't get to take any of it with you.

AVM · 08-22-2004, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by KRL

We're all getting toooo uptight.

Remember at the end of the line it's all just a game and you don't get to take any of it with you.

Steen's my little friend, I'm talking to him on AIM as we speak.
No ill intent, aside from bringing light to his homosexual tendencies.

KRL · 08-22-2004, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by AVM
you will not find a domain go uncaught, that has standalone potential.

Man, oh man, AVM I still have to disagree with you on that. True there are very few, but there are some that are missed. I bought and sold a two worder that floored me how everyone missed it.

Granted, it wasn't one that the domain sharks would be sniffing for because it was long, but its meaning had tremendous value. I got $17,500 for it.

quiet · 08-22-2004, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
This is interesting:

http://web.archive.org/web/199910102...ww.herbal.com/

nice.

i can definitely see potential in the name.

AVM · 08-22-2004, 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
Man, oh man, AVM I still have to disagree with you on that. True there are very few, but there are some that are missed. I bought and sold a two worder that floored me how everyone missed it.

Granted, it wasn't one that the domain sharks would be sniffing for because it long, but its meaning had tremendous value. I got $17,500 for it.

Always the exceptions. Generally speaking though, it's rare. Very rare.

I mean, I am not a negative person. As hard as it is to believe, I'm not. I just don't want some oblivious newbie, who hasn't had much success with his 'tgp', suddenly decide to muster up his last $78 on a last ditch effort to buy reg fee domains. In hopes of replicating your success. Posts like yours are good, they inspire and give hope. My posts? They make people angry and often leaves me in conflict with them. However I just hope my posts opens their eyes. Even for a brief moment. I want my posts to convey the real cut throat nature of this industry. If my posts reflect this, I'm happy.

Steen2 · 08-22-2004, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by AVM
Steen's my little friend, I'm talking to him on AIM as we speak.
No ill intent, aside from bringing light to his homosexual tendencies.

Little? That's not what you were telling me last night

BRISK · 08-22-2004, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
nice.

i can definitely see potential in the name.

If I was him, I would (at the very least) be selling the traffic he must be getting to some other online herbal supplement stores.

Personally, if I were him, I would be approaching the top companies in the herbal industry to propose some kind of joint venture and develop the domain into the #1 online destination for herbal products and information.

Instead, it sits there with links to stuff like the International Herb Association (which I doubt is paying him for the link).

Steen2 · 08-22-2004, 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
If I was him, I would (at the very least) be selling the traffic he must be getting to some other online herbal supplement stores.

Personally, if I were him, I would be approaching the top companies in the herbal industry to propose some kind of joint venture and develop the domain into the #1 online destination for herbal products and information.

Instead, it sits there with links to stuff like the International Herb Association (which I doubt is paying him for the link).

In my opinion, when you've got large funds backing you, something like HerbalGains.com will serve you better than Herbal.com (in the long run).

Just like over time we have seen:

Amazon.com > books.com
eBay.com > auction.com
Yahoo.com > Search.com

When you've got the money to brand, of course.

quiet · 08-22-2004, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
If I was him, I would (at the very least) be selling the traffic he must be getting to some other online herbal supplement stores.

Personally, if I were him, I would be approaching the top companies in the herbal industry to propose some kind of joint venture and develop the domain into the #1 online destination for herbal products and information.

Instead, it sits there with links to stuff like the International Herb Association (which I doubt is paying him for the link).

we should go 50/50 ;)

quiet · 08-22-2004, 04:37 AM

cayne · 08-22-2004, 05:17 AM

nice thread, lot of useful informations.

but I still don't understand how KRL can make 25k-50k a week with a few regged domains. Please can you enlighten me a little bit? Don't want to know exact details, just a direction...are you putting content on the pages, .. ?

nametower · 08-22-2004, 05:22 AM

AVM makes a good point, however it HAS been done.

there are ppl out there who started with 0$ and have made some very nice money.

so its possible, but don't get your hopes up

Good luck.

And not age nor budget can stop you from making the big bucks if you truely know what you're doing

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Avm, Stop busting his balls already you gotta give anyone kudos who starts at 18, buys low and makes a few bucks. Many people have started with these smaller margins and made 7figs + down the road in time. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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nametower Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 240	AVM makes a good point, however it HAS been done. there are ppl out there who started with 0$ and have made some very nice money. so its possible, but don't get your hopes up Good luck. And not age nor budget can stop you from making the big bucks if you truely know what you're doing __________________ www.nametower.com