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jonesy · 08-20-2004, 06:38 PM

50 EXPERTS !

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
yea but the IP address

IP Address: 64.71.165.210 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: - California - Valencia - The Bteg Network

i think that info is wrong

this 62.250.2.2 is for NS.VUURWERK.NL

teenoffice · 08-20-2004, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatingGold
move your server to france and put all the whois info in French.

problem solved.

year right

DatingGold · 08-20-2004, 06:47 PM

"(4) Producer does not include persons whose activities relating to
the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to
the following:
(i) Photo processing;
(ii) Mere distribution;
(iii) Any activity, other than those activities identified in
paragraphs (c)(1) and (2) of this section, that does not involve the
hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the
participation of the depicted performers;
(iv) A provider of Web-hosting services who does not manage the
content of the computer site or service; or
(v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote
computing service who does not manage the content of the computer site
or service."

ii. mere distribution

you will never go to jail unless you actually produced the CP or knowingly distributed it.

DatingGold · 08-20-2004, 06:55 PM

also...

"but does not include mere distribution or any other activity which does not involve hiring, contracting for[,] managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the performers depicted.''

MattK · 08-20-2004, 06:57 PM

I'm swtiching to text only descriptions...

Halo18 · 08-20-2004, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
I'm not doing shit...Come and get me mofos

That's what I like to hear.

Strife · 08-20-2004, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hy777
Here is a fully compliant one.

Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...niverse.ht ml

got me

good one

FightThisPatent · 08-20-2004, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrIzzz
someone please sum up and give me the cliff-notes of the effects of 2257 on thumb and text TGPs come august 24th.

There is a section on TGP in my 2257 summary:

http://www.2257lookup.com/2257Summary.html

-brandon

bdld · 08-21-2004, 12:54 AM

its unclear how to competely comply.
whether you live in the states but have a server hosted elsewhere, that may not protect you.
or what about hotlinking content from a sponsor.. that may not protect you since you control the html and are placing the img tags in there.

MrIzzz · 08-21-2004, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
that is no where near compliant for the new law and in reality that's what you should already have on your site. If you don't have that on your site now you are already in violation of the current 2257, technically speaking. So you better hurry up and move

From what I see in the new law.. it's not a lot of physical things that need changed to the sites themselves.. But most are changes to the amount of records you have at your place of business.

For example on your webpages, you will have to have your full business contact info right their on the main page (this will be your place of business and location of the 2257 records)

You don't have to provid links to models ID's on the web however you are supposed have on file (either paper or digital) records for all sexually explicit content hosted on your server(s).

So a text site should be exempt if you only link to sponsor hosted or submitted galleries that have 2257 info. Thumbs however are the tough one.. as long as they are not sexually explicit you shouldn't need a 2257 (2256 tells you what is considered sexually explicit)
But for any thumbs that are sexually explicit you will have to have on file the proper 2257 info.

there is also something about having link information about everywhere that content is used, on the web.. That IMO won't affect TGP owners a lot, but could be a nightmare for program owners, content producers and gallery submitters. I haven't looked into that part as much because it dosen't affect me that much.

Anyway that's what I get from reading the proposed law and listening to a few lawyers..

btw MrIZZ hit me up on ICQ we need to start a trade
203838 or let me know your ICQ

thanks for the info crockett,

329613811

i'm not taking any trades at the moment but i have something in mind in a little bit that i will hit you up on

AdultNex · 08-21-2004, 08:48 AM

Bump... Noone has mentioned what to do for thumb TGPs regarding the new 2257 law.

Can someone give a concise, clear, and simple method on how to comply?

http · 08-21-2004, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
that is no where near compliant for the new law and in reality that's what you should already have on your site. If you don't have that on your site now you are already in violation of the current 2257, technically speaking. So you better hurry up and move

From what I see in the new law.. it's not a lot of physical things that need changed to the sites themselves.. But most are changes to the amount of records you have at your place of business.

For example on your webpages, you will have to have your full business contact info right their on the main page (this will be your place of business and location of the 2257 records)

You don't have to provid links to models ID's on the web however you are supposed have on file (either paper or digital) records for all sexually explicit content hosted on your server(s).

So a text site should be exempt if you only link to sponsor hosted or submitted galleries that have 2257 info. Thumbs however are the tough one.. as long as they are not sexually explicit you shouldn't need a 2257 (2256 tells you what is considered sexually explicit)
But for any thumbs that are sexually explicit you will have to have on file the proper 2257 info.

there is also something about having link information about everywhere that content is used, on the web.. That IMO won't affect TGP owners a lot, but could be a nightmare for program owners, content producers and gallery submitters. I haven't looked into that part as much because it dosen't affect me that much.

Anyway that's what I get from reading the proposed law and listening to a few lawyers..

btw MrIZZ hit me up on ICQ we need to start a trade
203838 or let me know your ICQ

You made sense untill you said

"...if you only link to sponsor hosted or submitted galleries that have 2257 info..."

zdwebber · 08-21-2004, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
Bump... Noone has mentioned what to do for thumb TGPs regarding the new 2257 law.

Can someone give a concise, clear, and simple method on how to comply?

There is mass confusion right now. No one knows.
Wait till the 28th or whatever, and a lot more will be cleared up.

Reak · 08-21-2004, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
yea but the IP address

IP Address: 64.71.165.210 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: - California - Valencia - The Bteg Network

I saw that.

AdultNex · 08-21-2004, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zdwebber
There is mass confusion right now. No one knows.
Wait till the 28th or whatever, and a lot more will be cleared up.

I figured so, I'm just totally confused now.

Reak · 08-21-2004, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jonesy
50 EXPERTS !

i think that info is wrong

this 62.250.2.2 is for NS.VUURWERK.NL

What he said.

cosis · 08-21-2004, 10:16 AM

im waiting until the 28th, hopefully there will be a bunch of programs released to make changing your gallery pages quickly with the 2257 info

08-20-2004, 06:47 PM	#53
DatingGold $6 PER EMAIL JOiN Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California Posts: 13,185	"(4) Producer does not include persons whose activities relating to the visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct are limited to the following: (i) Photo processing; (ii) Mere distribution; (iii) Any activity, other than those activities identified in paragraphs (c)(1) and (2) of this section, that does not involve the hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the depicted performers; (iv) A provider of Web-hosting services who does not manage the content of the computer site or service; or (v) A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service who does not manage the content of the computer site or service." ii. mere distribution you will never go to jail unless you actually produced the CP or knowingly distributed it. __________________ 9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions! ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303

08-20-2004, 06:55 PM	#54
DatingGold $6 PER EMAIL JOiN Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California Posts: 13,185	also... "but does not include mere distribution or any other activity which does not involve hiring, contracting for[,] managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the performers depicted.'' __________________ 9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions! ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303

08-20-2004, 06:57 PM	#55
MattK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 492	I'm swtiching to text only descriptions...

08-21-2004, 12:54 AM	#59
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	its unclear how to competely comply. whether you live in the states but have a server hosted elsewhere, that may not protect you. or what about hotlinking content from a sponsor.. that may not protect you since you control the html and are placing the img tags in there.

08-21-2004, 08:48 AM	#61
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	Bump... Noone has mentioned what to do for thumb TGPs regarding the new 2257 law. Can someone give a concise, clear, and simple method on how to comply?

08-21-2004, 10:16 AM	#67
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,283	im waiting until the 28th, hopefully there will be a bunch of programs released to make changing your gallery pages quickly with the 2257 info