Is it wrong to steal sombodys site design? - GoFuckYourself.com

Exxxotica · 05-28-2001, 12:24 PM

Look at this shit! This guy not only stole my site design, but my exact textlink discriptions too?

Is there anything I can really do about this?

Please help me out guys!

My site: http://www.exotic-princess.com

His sites: http://www.allfreepornno.com/index.html

http://www.freepornpalace.net

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MrCockTale · 05-28-2001, 12:28 PM

I always send an email telling them that
i've contacted my lawyer etc. etc.

80% of the time they take down the site
immediatly..

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UnseenWorld · 05-28-2001, 12:37 PM

It's seemingly more than just a coincidental resemblance. Enough to call it plagiarism (using someone else's ideas). However, can you do anything in html that's so fucking original that you can expect copyright protection? I'm not an attorney, but I doubt it.

He stole the "look and feel" of your site, no doubt about it. How do the courts react to "look and feel" arguments? The answer is to look at all the guitars that look almost exactly like Fender guitars. Fake Stratocasters, fake Telecasters.

Like I said, I'm not an attorney, but that's how I see it. If you want to be sure, ask an attorney.

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Pure · 05-28-2001, 01:02 PM

holy shit, he has one of my links in there, "SPUNK TGP", and it actually goes to my site, and its not even a tgp anymore, its a cj2 site

Theo · 05-28-2001, 01:17 PM

no adoubt that he has the same layout with yours,only the counters are in different position.Even the same textlinks! That's the amazing part.
I agree with MrCocktale, contact him and tell him that your lawyer will handle the situation if he don't take it down.

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Babagirls · 05-28-2001, 01:24 PM

I dont think it would've been so bad if not for the fact that he copied EXACTLY your site (with a differnt background color).

I flip through Thumbzilla.com alot to get IDEAS on layouts and how to word things (because i am a newbie), but I would never copy the site and add my pictures to it like that guy did.

So in my opinon for you, OH YEA-thats wrong! LOL

Susan · 05-28-2001, 01:26 PM

Exxxotica

I like your site better and if he has copied it then its the mentality of a loser so don't waste time and energy chasing or worrying about it. Take it as a compliment, I am sure it's not going to have any effect on your sites performace.

Everyone steals little ideas here and there but some people just aint got what it takes to construct a good web page so they steal from those that have

RedShoe · 05-28-2001, 03:58 PM

It's so much easier to just build your own page? It's harder to go in and swap out code. It takes just as much effort.

Good luck Exxxotica in stopping this guy.

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kush · 05-28-2001, 04:12 PM

damn, too bad hehe didn't steal your AP links too!

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Theo · 05-28-2001, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by kush:
damn, too bad hehe didn't steal your AP links too!

hahahaha

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Exxxotica · 05-28-2001, 05:41 PM

It's more than just a design too.

It is what my site has evolved to over the past year. It's a year of trial and error...finding out what works best for me.

I originally started this site as a TGP, it then became a link site, which evolved into a semi content/blind link site, then into a Movie site...then into a script site, then into the layout I have now, part movies, part thumbs, part blind link, part toplist.

This guy will have no effect on my business, but it's the principle involved. It's just very frustrating.

UnseenWorld · 05-28-2001, 06:59 PM

I think the fact that he's not costing you any money says a lot about how you should handle it. "What's the damage?" (in terms of $) is one of the things an attorney would want to know, the other one being are his pockets deep enough to make it worthwhile going after him? If he has to borrow someone's site design wholesale, I doubt if he's sharp enough to make it work for him anyway.

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sweetjimmy · 05-28-2001, 07:04 PM

I like his site better

meshell · 05-28-2001, 07:16 PM

Exxxotica
I know how you feel. Am a graphic designer and all thru my career I have come across this kind of thing

Lazy people who think it's ok to steal someone else's hard work (design, layout, ideas, graphics, photos, etc). Amazing how often this happens.
I would suggest you follow MrCockTale's advice, the mail with mention of lawyers blah blah, that works most times. Since most are clueless of copyrights and such matters they get scared and take down the site.

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Exxxotica · 05-28-2001, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweetjimmy:
I like his site better

Thanks Jimmy!

Snake · 05-28-2001, 07:41 PM

When you write him make sure to "cc" all his sponsors so he knows you're not dicking around. Sponsors usually refuse payment to dickheads that can't come up with their own ideas.

Quoth the Raven · 05-28-2001, 07:46 PM

False. Most sponsors care only on the quality of traffic you send.

Quote:

Originally posted by Snake:
When you write him make sure to "cc" all his sponsors so he knows you're not dicking around. Sponsors usually refuse payment to dickheads that can't come up with their own ideas.

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TFCash · 05-28-2001, 07:55 PM

There might be a different way to approach this. You could email him/her and suggest that they a) give you a link as homage to you since they found your design to be so superior as to copy it. Imitation is the greatest form of a compliment. B) find out if he/she will signup under you using your codes so that you will get some credit if he/she does well also since they are using your design. Maybe this approach will give you more satisfaction, and end up compensating you

Tim

Theo · 05-28-2001, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snake:
When you write him make sure to "cc" all his sponsors so he knows you're not dicking around. Sponsors usually refuse payment to dickheads that can't come up with their own ideas.

if I would be the sponsor then hell yea! ok lol, but sponsors as Quoth the Raven said care about the green papers ($$). Also, they don't have the legal right not to pay someone for something like that.

I hope babasgirl you don't have a huge Thumbzilla Monster pics on one of your future sites :-)

I copied a site, almost the whole from a friend! hehe, I told him that I'm gonna turn his bookstore site in a porn site, he said that's impossible....well nothing is impossible!

bookstore: http://www.neusis.gr/studio/

pornstore (under construction) http://www.porninmail.com/stealcock.com/

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Theo · 05-28-2001, 08:28 PM

i need to fix the colors cause i dont like them a lot. stealcock.com was the domain i register that existed before as dad's hardcore place and I turned it into a softcore site.I'll try to be part of what the last theories saying....more soft more soft blah blah blah,anybody will follow me?

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Doctor Dre · 05-28-2001, 10:56 PM

Susan it do have an effect on your site when he haves traffic ... When I put up a new layout, after 2-3 days, theres like 10 sites taking the same links and all ... And I must change my layout each week if I want to keep it productive ... Everyday I see new labels from webmasters who copy / past my site in my ucj admin ... Thats why I need to work on 1 fucking layout per week at least !!! I hate thoses who copy others layout .

Exxxotica · 05-28-2001, 11:56 PM

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Aussie · 05-29-2001, 02:37 AM

Why don't you like my site

Susan · 05-29-2001, 03:11 AM

Best viewed with Netscape Communicator Ver 4.X at 1024 x 768 supporting Frames.

LOL

jody_anal · 05-29-2001, 02:12 PM

that dude has this really anoying right click popup.

Cam · 05-29-2001, 02:46 PM

Yeah, and this lame ass signed up twice to trade with my site. Design stealer and tradeing right click. Argh! I dont trust anyone pulling that shit.

Good luck on getting his site down Exxxotica. I think the easiest way would be simply the fact that he is stealing your content also.

Paul Markham · 12-21-2003, 01:48 AM

Lensman is a hypocrite

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pornkitten · 12-21-2003, 02:10 AM

I totally agree, take it as a compliment. Maybe in the future he will do it to someone who will retaliate/sue and it wont be so funny. I really feel for you because I know how it feels. I have a little baby to support by myself (the cutest sweetest little person in the world) His dad died in a horrible car accident. I would be very upset if someone caused me to lose money that I need for him to have a good life. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone online could co-exist peacefully and express there own ideas and creativity?

xxxoutsourcing · 12-21-2003, 05:39 AM

copyright infringment, hit up his billing company and tell the billing company you will sue them for reselleling his sites content using your design, they will turn his billing off.....

pradaboy · 12-21-2003, 06:05 AM

don't look the same... did he change it already?

swedguy · 12-21-2003, 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by pradaboy
don't look the same... did he change it already?

Look at the date

05-28-2001, 12:24 PM	#1
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	Is it wrong to steal sombodys site design? Look at this shit! This guy not only stole my site design, but my exact textlink discriptions too? Is there anything I can really do about this? Please help me out guys! My site: http://www.exotic-princess.com His sites: http://www.allfreepornno.com/index.html http://www.freepornpalace.net [This message has been edited by Exxxotica (edited 05-28-2001).]

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05-28-2001, 12:28 PM	#2
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	I always send an email telling them that i've contacted my lawyer etc. etc. 80% of the time they take down the site immediatly.. ------------------ Life's a bitch

05-28-2001, 12:37 PM	#3
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	It's seemingly more than just a coincidental resemblance. Enough to call it plagiarism (using someone else's ideas). However, can you do anything in html that's so fucking original that you can expect copyright protection? I'm not an attorney, but I doubt it. He stole the "look and feel" of your site, no doubt about it. How do the courts react to "look and feel" arguments? The answer is to look at all the guitars that look almost exactly like Fender guitars. Fake Stratocasters, fake Telecasters. Like I said, I'm not an attorney, but that's how I see it. If you want to be sure, ask an attorney. ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World [This message has been edited by UnseenWorld (edited 05-28-2001).]

05-28-2001, 01:02 PM	#4
Pure Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 185	holy shit, he has one of my links in there, "SPUNK TGP", and it actually goes to my site, and its not even a tgp anymore, its a cj2 site

05-28-2001, 01:17 PM	#5
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	no adoubt that he has the same layout with yours,only the counters are in different position.Even the same textlinks! That's the amazing part. I agree with MrCocktale, contact him and tell him that your lawyer will handle the situation if he don't take it down. ------------------ Great Money Makers! Top Sponsors

05-28-2001, 01:24 PM	#6
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	I dont think it would've been so bad if not for the fact that he copied EXACTLY your site (with a differnt background color). I flip through Thumbzilla.com alot to get IDEAS on layouts and how to word things (because i am a newbie), but I would never copy the site and add my pictures to it like that guy did. So in my opinon for you, OH YEA-thats wrong! LOL

05-28-2001, 01:26 PM	#7
Susan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Amost UK central Posts: 772	Exxxotica I like your site better and if he has copied it then its the mentality of a loser so don't waste time and energy chasing or worrying about it. Take it as a compliment, I am sure it's not going to have any effect on your sites performace. Everyone steals little ideas here and there but some people just aint got what it takes to construct a good web page so they steal from those that have

05-28-2001, 03:58 PM	#8
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	It's so much easier to just build your own page? It's harder to go in and swap out code. It takes just as much effort. Good luck Exxxotica in stopping this guy. ------------------ ...:::End Of Line:::... ------------------ * [email protected] * uSexFan.com * ICQ : 114683191

05-28-2001, 04:12 PM	#9
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	damn, too bad hehe didn't steal your AP links too! ------------------ My Webmaster's Page feel free to take a peek here ;) **Also if you're interested in a high converting and* retaining partership sponsor with TONS of original free content (hardcore + soft) contact me for info.

05-28-2001, 05:41 PM	#11
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	It's more than just a design too. It is what my site has evolved to over the past year. It's a year of trial and error...finding out what works best for me. I originally started this site as a TGP, it then became a link site, which evolved into a semi content/blind link site, then into a Movie site...then into a script site, then into the layout I have now, part movies, part thumbs, part blind link, part toplist. This guy will have no effect on my business, but it's the principle involved. It's just very frustrating.

05-28-2001, 06:59 PM	#12
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	I think the fact that he's not costing you any money says a lot about how you should handle it. "What's the damage?" (in terms of $) is one of the things an attorney would want to know, the other one being are his pockets deep enough to make it worthwhile going after him? If he has to borrow someone's site design wholesale, I doubt if he's sharp enough to make it work for him anyway. ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World

05-28-2001, 07:04 PM	#13
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	I like his site better

05-28-2001, 07:16 PM	#14
meshell Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 155	Exxxotica I know how you feel. Am a graphic designer and all thru my career I have come across this kind of thing Lazy people who think it's ok to steal someone else's hard work (design, layout, ideas, graphics, photos, etc). Amazing how often this happens. I would suggest you follow MrCockTale's advice, the mail with mention of lawyers blah blah, that works most times. Since most are clueless of copyrights and such matters they get scared and take down the site. ------------------ TeensCherry TGP Please come post your galleries

05-28-2001, 07:41 PM	#16
Snake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 126	When you write him make sure to "cc" all his sponsors so he knows you're not dicking around. Sponsors usually refuse payment to dickheads that can't come up with their own ideas.

05-28-2001, 07:55 PM	#18
TFCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,738	There might be a different way to approach this. You could email him/her and suggest that they a) give you a link as homage to you since they found your design to be so superior as to copy it. Imitation is the greatest form of a compliment. B) find out if he/she will signup under you using your codes so that you will get some credit if he/she does well also since they are using your design. Maybe this approach will give you more satisfaction, and end up compensating you Tim

05-28-2001, 08:28 PM	#20
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i need to fix the colors cause i dont like them a lot. stealcock.com was the domain i register that existed before as dad's hardcore place and I turned it into a softcore site.I'll try to be part of what the last theories saying....more soft more soft blah blah blah,anybody will follow me? ------------------ Great Money Makers! Top Sponsors

05-28-2001, 10:56 PM	#21
Doctor Dre Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 51,692	Susan it do have an effect on your site when he haves traffic ... When I put up a new layout, after 2-3 days, theres like 10 sites taking the same links and all ... And I must change my layout each week if I want to keep it productive ... Everyday I see new labels from webmasters who copy / past my site in my ucj admin ... Thats why I need to work on 1 fucking layout per week at least !!! I hate thoses who copy others layout .

05-28-2001, 11:56 PM	#22
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	[This message has been edited by Exxxotica (edited 05-28-2001).]

05-29-2001, 02:37 AM	#23
Aussie Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 262	Why don't you like my site

05-29-2001, 03:11 AM	#24
Susan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Amost UK central Posts: 772	Best viewed with Netscape Communicator Ver 4.X at 1024 x 768 supporting Frames. LOL

05-29-2001, 02:12 PM	#25
jody_anal Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 35	that dude has this really anoying right click popup.

05-29-2001, 02:46 PM	#26
Cam Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Phoenix Posts: 72	Yeah, and this lame ass signed up twice to trade with my site. Design stealer and tradeing right click. Argh! I dont trust anyone pulling that shit. Good luck on getting his site down Exxxotica. I think the easiest way would be simply the fact that he is stealing your content also.

12-21-2003, 02:10 AM	#28
pornkitten Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,412	I totally agree, take it as a compliment. Maybe in the future he will do it to someone who will retaliate/sue and it wont be so funny. I really feel for you because I know how it feels. I have a little baby to support by myself (the cutest sweetest little person in the world) His dad died in a horrible car accident. I would be very upset if someone caused me to lose money that I need for him to have a good life. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone online could co-exist peacefully and express there own ideas and creativity?