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pr0 · 06-06-2001, 03:16 AM

Ok..from personal experience, in a home or office with 10+ computers that need to be online 24-7 with 99.9% uptime..what should I be looking for?

(1) T-1
(2) ADSL
(3) SDSL
(4) ISDN
(5) Cable Modem
(6) IDSL

Lets hear from all you bandwidth luvin people out there! Give me some opinions on which is best from personal experience..through which company etc.

-pr0-

TFCash · 06-06-2001, 07:49 AM

I have 9 computers off a 3com 100Mb Switch, There is an ADSL line 6Mb down / 384K up going into a linux router. I also have a 1.5Mb up / down cable connection that goes into that same linux router, and finally I have a backup 56K modem in that router so if dsl and cable die I can still get online

The linux box is an old P233 that I had laying around, stuck a 4 port ethernet card into for 3 inputs 1 output. The router takes care if either the dsl or cable die off so I never notice. It also gives me great download and upload preformance.

Tim

JakeR · 06-06-2001, 11:43 AM

hey i have a question too on the topic.. sort of.
i have a cable modem running 5 pc's and a laptop with a linksys router/switch.. but i hate wires and want to go wireless, do you know whats the best route to take?

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TheDr · 06-06-2001, 02:46 PM

pr0,

It all depends on what's available to you and what ya want to spend. In our area we can't get x-dsl yet, but can get cable so we went with what we could get (3 years ago dsl wasn't really an option). We run a 5 pc soho and most of the internet work involves downloading large config. files for network testing equipment, so cable is fine (we get peak dl @ 2 Mbps). I do a fair amount of uploading (well duh

) and get peak ul rates of ~500 Kbps. Cable can be tricky cause your on a node and your rates depend on how many of the slots on the node are filled. As far as x-dsl check out http://qwest.com for a feel for prices on various a-dsl configs. (up to 7 Mbps down 1 Mbps up). Also available in some areas are:

v-dsl upto 55 Mbps down 2.3 Mbps up (but only if you live next to to the provider

)
h-dsl - same as t1 (aka ds1) 1.544 Mbps sysmetric
s-dsl - varible in 192 Kbps units up to 1/2 t1 symmetric
i-dsl 144 Kbps symmetric
isdn (bri) 128 Kbps symmetric
sh-dsl (coming soon) 2.3 Mbps symmetric

24/7 @ 99.9 my experence would say t1 or t3. Friends have had problems with i-dsl, isdn, and a-dsl and att broadband has been a real PIA (weekly down time). But don't know if that's the norm.

Mark

Phil21 · 06-06-2001, 02:53 PM

If you want any sort of peace of mind, "guarantee", or whatever about uptime. Go with a T1. Some providers will even give you a SLA (uunet) on it, which is nonexistant with DSL.

If you call the telco and say your T1 is down, they generally take it seriously. If you call and say your DSL is down they tend to laugh and you and tell you to join the crowd.

T1's are seen as business critical lines, as DSL is just joe-consumer stuff and no one cares if their down for 8 hours.

Do NOT go with DSL for a reliable means of transport. It WILL come back to haunt you, and you'll just be told when you bitch you should have went with a T1 and it's your own damn fault. (hell, that's what I'd say.)

-Phil

Majik · 06-06-2001, 09:00 PM

do yourself a favor and stay away from QWest DSL. I have a friend that tells me that they disconnect him every 2 hours (to try to stop people from being on it 24/7). This may not still be true...but it's what I heard...

I used Earthlink/Mindspring's DSL service, and found it quite fast and reliable.

As far as a T-1 goes, whats those run? Ballpark...

I'm currently on cable with 2 computers (at the moment...with 2 more added soon).

Majik

pr0 · 06-06-2001, 09:25 PM

"v-dsl upto 55 Mbps down 2.3 Mbps up (but only if you live next to to the provider)"

*pr0 wipes the drool from his mouth*

:-)

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06-06-2001, 03:16 AM	#1
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	The best bandwidth solution for a home network? Ok..from personal experience, in a home or office with 10+ computers that need to be online 24-7 with 99.9% uptime..what should I be looking for? (1) T-1 (2) ADSL (3) SDSL (4) ISDN (5) Cable Modem (6) IDSL Lets hear from all you bandwidth luvin people out there! Give me some opinions on which is best from personal experience..through which company etc. -pr0-

06-06-2001, 07:49 AM	#2
TFCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,738	I have 9 computers off a 3com 100Mb Switch, There is an ADSL line 6Mb down / 384K up going into a linux router. I also have a 1.5Mb up / down cable connection that goes into that same linux router, and finally I have a backup 56K modem in that router so if dsl and cable die I can still get online The linux box is an old P233 that I had laying around, stuck a 4 port ethernet card into for 3 inputs 1 output. The router takes care if either the dsl or cable die off so I never notice. It also gives me great download and upload preformance. Tim

06-06-2001, 11:43 AM	#3
JakeR Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: il and nc Posts: 1,760	hey i have a question too on the topic.. sort of. i have a cable modem running 5 pc's and a laptop with a linksys router/switch.. but i hate wires and want to go wireless, do you know whats the best route to take?

06-06-2001, 02:44 PM	#4
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	smc barricade great product,,,i got it because i heard it way better than the linksys wireless brand ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 Got a Black site or category? Get a Black Dialer!! www.NoBSdialer.com

06-06-2001, 02:46 PM	#5
TheDr Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: CO, USA Posts: 108	pr0, It all depends on what's available to you and what ya want to spend. In our area we can't get x-dsl yet, but can get cable so we went with what we could get (3 years ago dsl wasn't really an option). We run a 5 pc soho and most of the internet work involves downloading large config. files for network testing equipment, so cable is fine (we get peak dl @ 2 Mbps). I do a fair amount of uploading (well duh ) and get peak ul rates of ~500 Kbps. Cable can be tricky cause your on a node and your rates depend on how many of the slots on the node are filled. As far as x-dsl check out http://qwest.com for a feel for prices on various a-dsl configs. (up to 7 Mbps down 1 Mbps up). Also available in some areas are: v-dsl upto 55 Mbps down 2.3 Mbps up (but only if you live next to to the provider ) h-dsl - same as t1 (aka ds1) 1.544 Mbps sysmetric s-dsl - varible in 192 Kbps units up to 1/2 t1 symmetric i-dsl 144 Kbps symmetric isdn (bri) 128 Kbps symmetric sh-dsl (coming soon) 2.3 Mbps symmetric 24/7 @ 99.9 my experence would say t1 or t3. Friends have had problems with i-dsl, isdn, and a-dsl and att broadband has been a real PIA (weekly down time). But don't know if that's the norm. Mark

06-06-2001, 02:53 PM	#6
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	If you want any sort of peace of mind, "guarantee", or whatever about uptime. Go with a T1. Some providers will even give you a SLA (uunet) on it, which is nonexistant with DSL. If you call the telco and say your T1 is down, they generally take it seriously. If you call and say your DSL is down they tend to laugh and you and tell you to join the crowd. T1's are seen as business critical lines, as DSL is just joe-consumer stuff and no one cares if their down for 8 hours. Do NOT go with DSL for a reliable means of transport. It WILL come back to haunt you, and you'll just be told when you bitch you should have went with a T1 and it's your own damn fault. (hell, that's what I'd say.) -Phil

06-06-2001, 09:00 PM	#7
Majik Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 39	do yourself a favor and stay away from QWest DSL. I have a friend that tells me that they disconnect him every 2 hours (to try to stop people from being on it 24/7). This may not still be true...but it's what I heard... I used Earthlink/Mindspring's DSL service, and found it quite fast and reliable. As far as a T-1 goes, whats those run? Ballpark... I'm currently on cable with 2 computers (at the moment...with 2 more added soon). Majik

06-06-2001, 09:25 PM	#8
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	"v-dsl upto 55 Mbps down 2.3 Mbps up (but only if you live next to to the provider)" pr0 wipes the drool from his mouth :-)

06-06-2001, 09:41 PM	#9
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06-06-2001, 09:47 PM	#10
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