Current ripoff/non-paymen list - Epiccash/AllXCash/Flynt/JonAtherton - GoFuckYourself.com

evilshaun · 08-18-2004, 09:07 AM

Epic:
100% CB/Cancel ratio, bullshit? I think so.
$2k owed
( This has also happened to my friends, $2k lost there too )
Stay away from epiccash, they are not solid and their owner/bitch is a scam artist, but he's starting to get scammed so I feel better about this one.

AllXcash:
$1k owed
Disppeared, non-respondant

FlyntDigital:
$2k owed
Shutdown account due to "spam" complaints, no proof showed and non-respondant

JonAtherton:
$100k owed
You guys know the story.

Icecoldcash:
$1k owed
Was paid $3k partially in good faith, appreciated, but there is still roughly $1k left outstanding

If any of the above would like to make good their debts, please contact [email protected].

Manowar · 08-18-2004, 09:08 AM

You ever think all those sponsors termed you for a reason ?

Basic_man · 08-18-2004, 09:08 AM

Ho shit, that's gonna be big drama !

SIG PLACEMENT

kush · 08-18-2004, 09:09 AM

What was your traffic source?

How did you advertise?

TheWildcard · 08-18-2004, 09:10 AM

stocktrader23 · 08-18-2004, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
You ever think all those sponsors termed you for a reason ?

Nah, they just like conning this one dude. Maybe he has a middle eastern name or something.

evilshaun · 08-18-2004, 09:11 AM

Sure do Manowar.. If I agree with it or not is a different story.

KMR Stitch · 08-18-2004, 09:13 AM

100k lost?

chemicaleyes · 08-18-2004, 09:13 AM

QuaWee · 08-18-2004, 09:18 AM

where's my fuckin popcorn

Magg · 08-18-2004, 09:19 AM

Check my sig for more drama

BradM · 08-18-2004, 09:20 AM

Who really knows the WHOLE story but him and the program owners.

JFK · 08-18-2004, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Who really knows the WHOLE story but him and the program owners.

Right , or is everyone just picking on him ?

evilshaun · 08-18-2004, 09:24 AM

Lots of people do.. This is merely to give these sponsors a chance to make good their debs, and to warn others that wish to do business with them. How you deal with this factual information is your choice.

chemicaleyes · 08-18-2004, 09:24 AM

Ice · 08-18-2004, 09:26 AM

Epic has always paid me on time... can't say I have dealt with the other guys....

polish_aristocrat · 08-18-2004, 09:26 AM

Flynt Digital are a reliable company.

p1mpdogg · 08-18-2004, 09:41 AM

didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

Veterans Day · 08-18-2004, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

myneid · 08-18-2004, 09:46 AM

if you are getting such a high chargeback ratio on your traffic , you should really take a look back at yourself instead of bitching on the boards casue nobody is gonna pay you with that scammer/carder traffic.

evilshaun · 08-18-2004, 09:48 AM

TCG has paid me TOO MUCH, about $40k this year so far.. Why do you try to push aside the fact that you scammed me p1mpgoat, you openly admit it, everyone I send traffic to has NEVER had this problem before, except you.

Funny, fuck my mother I guess right smart guy?

TCG are one of my best programs, along with a ton of other big ones.

evilshaun · 08-18-2004, 09:53 AM

Take a look at myself?

I have, and I see nothing wrong. If you get 100% CB level, there are only a few options that are possible:
a) your system fucked up and never posted the right data
b) your backends are shit and don't match your frontends
c) some carder put through a bunch of transactions, but even then CB's would not come in until after a few months, my acct was shut in under 1 mos after traffic.
d) there is a ripoff fag on the other end needing to pay his b/w bill

You can all assume what you want, but anyone with half a clue knows that the occurance of 100% CB's under 1 mos is virtually impossible, even the turn around time to report and ultimately get back to your account is over 1 mos, use your brains you retards.

evilshaun · 08-18-2004, 09:55 AM

Also.. Flynt as good, paying on time and as usual for the past 6 mos, until now.

Short Irish Guy · 08-18-2004, 09:55 AM

Damn, tell us the story

evilshaun · 08-18-2004, 09:57 AM

Hey p1mp what's up with my friends at Masterly huh? Decide not to pay them also??? After 10 mails sent, they still let the traffic trickle through, and you still haven't paid them $1 on $2000.

WiredGuy · 08-18-2004, 09:58 AM

5 sponsors terminated you for either spam or CB problems. I think there's something really wrong with your traffic at that point because 5 terminations is really excessive.

WG

TheWildcard · 08-18-2004, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

WarChild · 08-18-2004, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
5 sponsors terminated you for either spam or CB problems. I think there's something really wrong with your traffic at that point because 5 terminations is really excessive.

WG

Can you show me where he said they all termed him? I don't believe he ever did.

evilshaun · 08-18-2004, 10:02 AM

Wiredguy,

I've saw some of your posts and you seem intelligent, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one and ask you to re-read my original post and stop assuming I was termmed with all of them and for the same reason.

When I have over 50 active sponsors, i'm bound to see these sorts of issues, don't you think?

Rich · 08-18-2004, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

And you didn't pay him for the sales he had sent? Despite the fact that you have no reason to assume he cheated other than the fact that his members cancelled? This seems to be a recurring story with you, maybe your members areas suck balls.

Learn how to run a fucking affiliate program, you're a scam artist. Does it say in your terms that if not many of his members convert from trial you won't pay? Switch his account to recurring but pay him for sales sent, like a real program would do.

Why anyone would do business with this racist, scamming child is beyond me. He cries like a woman every time he thinks he's been wronged, but has no problem stealing from his affiliates. I'll bet his shave is through the roof as well.

liquidmoe · 08-18-2004, 10:26 AM

siggy

Ice · 08-18-2004, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evilshaun
Take a look at myself?

I have, and I see nothing wrong. If you get 100% CB level, there are only a few options that are possible:
a) your system fucked up and never posted the right data
b) your backends are shit and don't match your frontends
c) some carder put through a bunch of transactions, but even then CB's would not come in until after a few months, my acct was shut in under 1 mos after traffic.
d) there is a ripoff fag on the other end needing to pay his b/w bill

You can all assume what you want, but anyone with half a clue knows that the occurance of 100% CB's under 1 mos is virtually impossible, even the turn around time to report and ultimately get back to your account is over 1 mos, use your brains you retards.

blah blah blah blah

lazycash · 08-18-2004, 10:33 AM

Such is the life of a spammer, gotta take the good with the bad.

bdld · 08-18-2004, 10:33 AM

it must be your traffic, it seems like quite a coincidence that all those sponsors term your accounts.

modF · 08-18-2004, 10:33 AM

Where does your traffic come from?

WiredGuy · 08-18-2004, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evilshaun
Wiredguy,

I've saw some of your posts and you seem intelligent, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one and ask you to re-read my original post and stop assuming I was termmed with all of them and for the same reason.

When I have over 50 active sponsors, i'm bound to see these sorts of issues, don't you think?

by the sounds of it, epiccash and flyntdigital termed you. Excessive chargebacks and spam are both grounds for termination for these programs. AllXCash I never heard of, Jon Atherton you'll probably have to write off as bad debt, and ICC seems to have tried to make ammends with you. I was wrong to assume you were terminated from all 5 programs you listed, but from the sounds of it, epiccash and flynt did term you.

WG

Preacher · 08-18-2004, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basic_man
Ho shit, that's gonna be big drama !

SIG PLACEMENT

I will get in on this thread too

WiredGuy · 08-18-2004, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
Can you show me where he said they all termed him? I don't believe he ever did.

Quote:

100% CB/Cancel ratio

Quote:

Shutdown account due to "spam" complaints

Those two statements translate into terminations in my world. Like I said above, I was wrong to assume all 5 termed him, but the above two seem to have.

WG

Phoenix · 08-18-2004, 11:01 AM

Evilshuan is the shit...the more people that rip him off, the more traffic i get..keep it up boys

sorry to hear of your losses shaun

myneid · 08-18-2004, 11:02 AM

So what was your Epic Cash affiliate id?

So that i can check it out and see what really went on.

skillfull · 08-18-2004, 11:29 AM

scam artist should be beaten

kush · 08-18-2004, 11:33 AM

So you going to tell us where you traffic/sales come from?

If pimpdog's data is right, looks like you're running a scam where you get people to signup for a trial then cancel so you get the signup money.

Or do you have one of those sites that 'teach' people how to cancel paysite memberships?

jimmyf · 08-18-2004, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Nah, they just like conning this one dude. Maybe he has a middle eastern name or something.

you think so ???

jimmyf · 08-18-2004, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby
Epic has always paid me on time... can't say I have dealt with the other guys....

paid me also, granted it wasn't a great deal of money..... but the pimpdog is

sometimes

jimmyf · 08-18-2004, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

shame on you, where in the fuck did you learn how 2 talk like that ??

RicardoB · 08-18-2004, 12:06 PM

I don't have tried all those sponsors but Epic and Flynt Digital I have used.

I dropped them both for selling out to Acacia but I can attest that they do pay. I earned thousands with FLynt digital alone.

Epic I only promoted shortly but still made some good cash.

So while I won't touch those two anymore with a ten ft stick they are not fucking with the payouts.

pornstar2pac · 08-18-2004, 12:16 PM

I heard Larry Flynt is low on cash.

David - PG · 08-18-2004, 12:27 PM

Whoever here doesnt want his traffic or is too retarded to convert it I will take it, here's what he sent on one account

152 sales
2 CB
6 Refund

Totally standard, good % of actives, def. way more than 2% or whatever

David/Perfectgonzo

beemk · 08-18-2004, 12:29 PM

hmm ive never got an account shut down before. i wonder why.

Trent Edison · 08-18-2004, 12:54 PM

$100k owed is some serious shit...

I'd agree about flyntdigital. They are fucking joke.

08-18-2004, 09:07 AM	#1
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	Current ripoff/non-paymen list - Epiccash/AllXCash/Flynt/JonAtherton Epic: 100% CB/Cancel ratio, bullshit? I think so. $2k owed ( This has also happened to my friends, $2k lost there too ) Stay away from epiccash, they are not solid and their owner/bitch is a scam artist, but he's starting to get scammed so I feel better about this one. AllXcash: $1k owed Disppeared, non-respondant FlyntDigital: $2k owed Shutdown account due to "spam" complaints, no proof showed and non-respondant JonAtherton: $100k owed You guys know the story. Icecoldcash: $1k owed Was paid $3k partially in good faith, appreciated, but there is still roughly $1k left outstanding If any of the above would like to make good their debts, please contact [email protected].

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08-18-2004, 09:08 AM	#2
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08-18-2004, 09:11 AM	#7
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	Sure do Manowar.. If I agree with it or not is a different story.

08-18-2004, 09:13 AM	#8
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	100k lost?

08-18-2004, 09:19 AM	#11
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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Who really knows the WHOLE story but him and the program owners.

08-18-2004, 09:26 AM	#16
Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	Epic has always paid me on time... can't say I have dealt with the other guys.... __________________ icq 1904905

08-18-2004, 09:26 AM	#17
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08-18-2004, 09:41 AM	#18
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08-18-2004, 09:46 AM	#20
myneid Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 736	if you are getting such a high chargeback ratio on your traffic , you should really take a look back at yourself instead of bitching on the boards casue nobody is gonna pay you with that scammer/carder traffic. __________________ Tanguy 0x7a69 inc. Programmer/President/CEO http://www.0x7a69.com A Leader in Programming since 1996 PHP, Ruby on Rails, MySQL, PCI DSS, and any Technical Consulting

08-18-2004, 09:48 AM	#21
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	TCG has paid me TOO MUCH, about $40k this year so far.. Why do you try to push aside the fact that you scammed me p1mpgoat, you openly admit it, everyone I send traffic to has NEVER had this problem before, except you. Funny, fuck my mother I guess right smart guy? TCG are one of my best programs, along with a ton of other big ones.

08-18-2004, 09:53 AM	#22
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	Take a look at myself? I have, and I see nothing wrong. If you get 100% CB level, there are only a few options that are possible: a) your system fucked up and never posted the right data b) your backends are shit and don't match your frontends c) some carder put through a bunch of transactions, but even then CB's would not come in until after a few months, my acct was shut in under 1 mos after traffic. d) there is a ripoff fag on the other end needing to pay his b/w bill You can all assume what you want, but anyone with half a clue knows that the occurance of 100% CB's under 1 mos is virtually impossible, even the turn around time to report and ultimately get back to your account is over 1 mos, use your brains you retards.

08-18-2004, 09:55 AM	#23
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	Also.. Flynt as good, paying on time and as usual for the past 6 mos, until now.

08-18-2004, 09:55 AM	#24
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08-18-2004, 09:57 AM	#25
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	Hey p1mp what's up with my friends at Masterly huh? Decide not to pay them also??? After 10 mails sent, they still let the traffic trickle through, and you still haven't paid them $1 on $2000.

08-18-2004, 09:58 AM	#26
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	5 sponsors terminated you for either spam or CB problems. I think there's something really wrong with your traffic at that point because 5 terminations is really excessive. WG __________________ I play with Google.

08-18-2004, 10:02 AM	#29
evilshaun Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 295	Wiredguy, I've saw some of your posts and you seem intelligent, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one and ask you to re-read my original post and stop assuming I was termmed with all of them and for the same reason. When I have over 50 active sponsors, i'm bound to see these sorts of issues, don't you think?

08-18-2004, 10:26 AM	#31
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08-18-2004, 10:33 AM	#33
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08-18-2004, 10:33 AM	#34
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	it must be your traffic, it seems like quite a coincidence that all those sponsors term your accounts.

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08-18-2004, 11:01 AM	#39
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08-18-2004, 11:02 AM	#40
myneid Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 736	So what was your Epic Cash affiliate id? So that i can check it out and see what really went on. __________________ Tanguy 0x7a69 inc. Programmer/President/CEO http://www.0x7a69.com A Leader in Programming since 1996 PHP, Ruby on Rails, MySQL, PCI DSS, and any Technical Consulting

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08-18-2004, 11:33 AM	#42
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	So you going to tell us where you traffic/sales come from? If pimpdog's data is right, looks like you're running a scam where you get people to signup for a trial then cancel so you get the signup money. Or do you have one of those sites that 'teach' people how to cancel paysite memberships?

08-18-2004, 12:06 PM	#46
RicardoB Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,576	I don't have tried all those sponsors but Epic and Flynt Digital I have used. I dropped them both for selling out to Acacia but I can attest that they do pay. I earned thousands with FLynt digital alone. Epic I only promoted shortly but still made some good cash. So while I won't touch those two anymore with a ten ft stick they are not fucking with the payouts. __________________ Let Me Show Ya How I Really Feel Ricardo's Rants

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08-18-2004, 12:27 PM	#48
David - PG Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 767	Whoever here doesnt want his traffic or is too retarded to convert it I will take it, here's what he sent on one account 152 sales 2 CB 6 Refund Totally standard, good % of actives, def. way more than 2% or whatever David/Perfectgonzo

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