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evilshaun 08-18-2004 09:07 AM

Current ripoff/non-paymen list - Epiccash/AllXCash/Flynt/JonAtherton
 
Epic:
100% CB/Cancel ratio, bullshit? I think so.
$2k owed
( This has also happened to my friends, $2k lost there too )
Stay away from epiccash, they are not solid and their owner/bitch is a scam artist, but he's starting to get scammed so I feel better about this one.

AllXcash:
$1k owed
Disppeared, non-respondant

FlyntDigital:
$2k owed
Shutdown account due to "spam" complaints, no proof showed and non-respondant

JonAtherton:
$100k owed
You guys know the story.

Icecoldcash:
$1k owed
Was paid $3k partially in good faith, appreciated, but there is still roughly $1k left outstanding

If any of the above would like to make good their debts, please contact [email protected].

Manowar 08-18-2004 09:08 AM

You ever think all those sponsors termed you for a reason ?

Basic_man 08-18-2004 09:08 AM

Ho shit, that's gonna be big drama !

SIG PLACEMENT :Graucho

kush 08-18-2004 09:09 AM

What was your traffic source?

How did you advertise?

TheWildcard 08-18-2004 09:10 AM

:thumbsup

stocktrader23 08-18-2004 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
You ever think all those sponsors termed you for a reason ?
Nah, they just like conning this one dude. Maybe he has a middle eastern name or something.

evilshaun 08-18-2004 09:11 AM

Sure do Manowar.. If I agree with it or not is a different story.

KMR Stitch 08-18-2004 09:13 AM

100k lost?

:1orglaugh

chemicaleyes 08-18-2004 09:13 AM

:glugglug

QuaWee 08-18-2004 09:18 AM

where's my fuckin popcorn

Magg 08-18-2004 09:19 AM

Check my sig for more drama

BradM 08-18-2004 09:20 AM

Who really knows the WHOLE story but him and the program owners.

JFK 08-18-2004 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Who really knows the WHOLE story but him and the program owners.
Right , or is everyone just picking on him ?:2 cents:

evilshaun 08-18-2004 09:24 AM

Lots of people do.. This is merely to give these sponsors a chance to make good their debs, and to warn others that wish to do business with them. How you deal with this factual information is your choice.

chemicaleyes 08-18-2004 09:24 AM

http://urlsx.com/gfy/smilies/popcorn.gif

Ice 08-18-2004 09:26 AM

Epic has always paid me on time... can't say I have dealt with the other guys....

polish_aristocrat 08-18-2004 09:26 AM

Flynt Digital are a reliable company.

p1mpdogg 08-18-2004 09:41 AM

didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

Veterans Day 08-18-2004 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

:1orglaugh

myneid 08-18-2004 09:46 AM

if you are getting such a high chargeback ratio on your traffic , you should really take a look back at yourself instead of bitching on the boards casue nobody is gonna pay you with that scammer/carder traffic.

evilshaun 08-18-2004 09:48 AM

TCG has paid me TOO MUCH, about $40k this year so far.. Why do you try to push aside the fact that you scammed me p1mpgoat, you openly admit it, everyone I send traffic to has NEVER had this problem before, except you.

Funny, fuck my mother I guess right smart guy?

TCG are one of my best programs, along with a ton of other big ones.

evilshaun 08-18-2004 09:53 AM

Take a look at myself?

I have, and I see nothing wrong. If you get 100% CB level, there are only a few options that are possible:
a) your system fucked up and never posted the right data
b) your backends are shit and don't match your frontends
c) some carder put through a bunch of transactions, but even then CB's would not come in until after a few months, my acct was shut in under 1 mos after traffic.
d) there is a ripoff fag on the other end needing to pay his b/w bill

You can all assume what you want, but anyone with half a clue knows that the occurance of 100% CB's under 1 mos is virtually impossible, even the turn around time to report and ultimately get back to your account is over 1 mos, use your brains you retards.

evilshaun 08-18-2004 09:55 AM

Also.. Flynt as good, paying on time and as usual for the past 6 mos, until now.

Short Irish Guy 08-18-2004 09:55 AM

Damn, tell us the story :)

evilshaun 08-18-2004 09:57 AM

Hey p1mp what's up with my friends at Masterly huh? Decide not to pay them also??? After 10 mails sent, they still let the traffic trickle through, and you still haven't paid them $1 on $2000.

WiredGuy 08-18-2004 09:58 AM

5 sponsors terminated you for either spam or CB problems. I think there's something really wrong with your traffic at that point because 5 terminations is really excessive.

WG

TheWildcard 08-18-2004 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

WarChild 08-18-2004 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
5 sponsors terminated you for either spam or CB problems. I think there's something really wrong with your traffic at that point because 5 terminations is really excessive.

WG

Can you show me where he said they all termed him? I don't believe he ever did.

evilshaun 08-18-2004 10:02 AM

Wiredguy,

I've saw some of your posts and you seem intelligent, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one and ask you to re-read my original post and stop assuming I was termmed with all of them and for the same reason.

When I have over 50 active sponsors, i'm bound to see these sorts of issues, don't you think?

Rich 08-18-2004 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother

And you didn't pay him for the sales he had sent? Despite the fact that you have no reason to assume he cheated other than the fact that his members cancelled? This seems to be a recurring story with you, maybe your members areas suck balls.

Learn how to run a fucking affiliate program, you're a scam artist. Does it say in your terms that if not many of his members convert from trial you won't pay? Switch his account to recurring but pay him for sales sent, like a real program would do.

Why anyone would do business with this racist, scamming child is beyond me. He cries like a woman every time he thinks he's been wronged, but has no problem stealing from his affiliates. I'll bet his shave is through the roof as well.

liquidmoe 08-18-2004 10:26 AM

siggy :stoned

Ice 08-18-2004 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evilshaun
Take a look at myself?

I have, and I see nothing wrong. If you get 100% CB level, there are only a few options that are possible:
a) your system fucked up and never posted the right data
b) your backends are shit and don't match your frontends
c) some carder put through a bunch of transactions, but even then CB's would not come in until after a few months, my acct was shut in under 1 mos after traffic.
d) there is a ripoff fag on the other end needing to pay his b/w bill

You can all assume what you want, but anyone with half a clue knows that the occurance of 100% CB's under 1 mos is virtually impossible, even the turn around time to report and ultimately get back to your account is over 1 mos, use your brains you retards.


blah blah blah blah

lazycash 08-18-2004 10:33 AM

Such is the life of a spammer, gotta take the good with the bad.

bdld 08-18-2004 10:33 AM

it must be your traffic, it seems like quite a coincidence that all those sponsors term your accounts.

modF 08-18-2004 10:33 AM

Where does your traffic come from?

WiredGuy 08-18-2004 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evilshaun
Wiredguy,

I've saw some of your posts and you seem intelligent, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one and ask you to re-read my original post and stop assuming I was termmed with all of them and for the same reason.

When I have over 50 active sponsors, i'm bound to see these sorts of issues, don't you think?


by the sounds of it, epiccash and flyntdigital termed you. Excessive chargebacks and spam are both grounds for termination for these programs. AllXCash I never heard of, Jon Atherton you'll probably have to write off as bad debt, and ICC seems to have tried to make ammends with you. I was wrong to assume you were terminated from all 5 programs you listed, but from the sounds of it, epiccash and flynt did term you.

WG

Preacher 08-18-2004 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basic_man
Ho shit, that's gonna be big drama !

SIG PLACEMENT :Graucho

I will get in on this thread too :Graucho

WiredGuy 08-18-2004 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
Can you show me where he said they all termed him? I don't believe he ever did.
Quote:

100% CB/Cancel ratio
Quote:

Shutdown account due to "spam" complaints
Those two statements translate into terminations in my world. Like I said above, I was wrong to assume all 5 termed him, but the above two seem to have.

WG

Phoenix 08-18-2004 11:01 AM

Evilshuan is the shit...the more people that rip him off, the more traffic i get..keep it up boys:thumbsup


sorry to hear of your losses shaun

myneid 08-18-2004 11:02 AM

So what was your Epic Cash affiliate id?

So that i can check it out and see what really went on.

skillfull 08-18-2004 11:29 AM

scam artist should be beaten

kush 08-18-2004 11:33 AM

So you going to tell us where you traffic/sales come from?

If pimpdog's data is right, looks like you're running a scam where you get people to signup for a trial then cancel so you get the signup money.

Or do you have one of those sites that 'teach' people how to cancel paysite memberships?

jimmyf 08-18-2004 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Nah, they just like conning this one dude. Maybe he has a middle eastern name or something.
you think so ??? :1orglaugh

:winkwink:

jimmyf 08-18-2004 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby
Epic has always paid me on time... can't say I have dealt with the other guys....
paid me also, granted it wasn't a great deal of money..... but the pimpdog is :thumbsup



















sometimes :winkwink:

jimmyf 08-18-2004 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

lol
he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
fuck your mother


shame on you, where in the fuck did you learn how 2 talk like that ??

RicardoB 08-18-2004 12:06 PM

I don't have tried all those sponsors but Epic and Flynt Digital I have used.

I dropped them both for selling out to Acacia but I can attest that they do pay. I earned thousands with FLynt digital alone.

Epic I only promoted shortly but still made some good cash.

So while I won't touch those two anymore with a ten ft stick they are not fucking with the payouts.

pornstar2pac 08-18-2004 12:16 PM

I heard Larry Flynt is low on cash.

David - PG 08-18-2004 12:27 PM

Whoever here doesnt want his traffic or is too retarded to convert it I will take it, here's what he sent on one account

152 sales
2 CB
6 Refund

Totally standard, good % of actives, def. way more than 2% or whatever :1orglaugh

David/Perfectgonzo

beemk 08-18-2004 12:29 PM

hmm ive never got an account shut down before. i wonder why.

Trent Edison 08-18-2004 12:54 PM

$100k owed is some serious shit... :eek7
I'd agree about flyntdigital. They are fucking joke.


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