my point is that you have no idea if it was out of line or not.. because you really have no idea what happened or why they had to use force against them.

you are assuming and you are reacting in a deeply emotional way, when you only have less than 1/2 the story.

that being said.. "kids in the car" has nothing to do with it. you are assuming the police did not have good cause to take him down.... but you have no idea. it's not like this guy was just walking by and a cop was drunk and decided to whack him in the head with his nightstick for no reason. there was a confrontation... the details of which, we do not know.

FUCK THA POLICE

I missed this beauty in my earlier response.

Of course it's a part of the story .. A very small part. Do you often base your opinions on a very small amount of information?

Did you watch the video? The only "trying" he did was drive up to the barrier and get out of his car. He didn't try to plow through, or run across, he didn't do shit. What the hell are you defending?

That's the fucked up part of the story? The guy?

Wow, you're really an obedient little member of the outer party. No thought criminal here.

God Bless George Bush's police state. Un-elected fascist dictators rule!

God damn, let me spell it out for ya, since the first few times didn't sink in...

I admit, AGAIN, that I don't know the whole story.

But what I saw was a scared man with a family who probably just wanted to know if he had a home anymore or not get assaulted in front of his kids by authorities. Think about how terrified these kids must have been to go through a hurricane of that magnitude, and to know they may not have a home anymore. Imagine how much more compounded that would be when they saw their dad get stun-gunned. That was my point to begin with.

If you saw something different, well, that's YOU, and I have no problem with that.

I don't attack people for having different opinions than I do, I know that those differences of thinking are what make us all unique and interesting.

If you think something else, good for you. What we think doesn't impact this situation in any way whatsoever, so it is a personal opinion owing nothing to anybody. Mine is different. So friggin what? You are not going to change my opinion by arguing with me. I don't have to defend my opinion to you, or anybody else, but I was respectful enough to respond to your questions and explain my POV. Now why not have enough respect for me to let me have my opinion and stop trying to change it.

With regards to it being a very small part...I wasn't the one who said "It's not that you don't know the whole story .. In fact, you don't know any of it other than the way it ended."
I was merely pointing out a factual error in that statement.

Edited for spelling error

There's no factual error in that statment.

You know how the story ended. You don't know any other part of the story.

In English, this can be expressed as "You don't know any of the story OTHER THAN the way it ended".

You may replace "other than" with except, if it makes it easier for you.

The police are there to prevent looting. They check to make sure everyone entering a disaster area has a legit reason to be there. If they guy had ID, he probably would have been let into the area but instead he probably got an attitude with the police. It's not like the guy was shot with a shotgun. It's a taser. He probably peed a little and was handcuffed. No big deal.

Do not fuck with the po po. Lesson learnt.

well what would you say if your home or business had been destroyed and the policed just let any one in and people stole all your shit? Or what if they let you in and you got electrocuted because of downed power lines?

It's a shitty thing and it would piss me off as well if it was my house, but if the cops can't control the area or if it's still dangerous they are in the right to keep people out. It sucks but that's what has to be done.

However the tazer in front of his kids was pretty bad and I think it shouldn't have been done.. The guy didn't seem to be violent but who know we didn't see everything.

He must have been a raving lunatic if they had to stun him with that many cops around.

50 stunned readers:glugglug

At the next convention I'm going to taser you in front of your familly and handcuff you. No big deal right?

Ever been hit by a taser? People die from them.

Police love hitting people with tasers.

They even like popping 9 year old girls with them

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/r...cles/23888.php

:1orglaugh

"A 9-year-old handcuffed girl was swearing, thrashing and attempting to kick out a patrol car window when a South Tucson police sergeant used a stun gun to subdue her, according to police reports released Thursday. "

she was handcuffed at the time

pigs in the south are fucking pricks.

Stun guns and tasers are different instruments. I believe a taser is much more dangerous.

Sooooooo, in order to prevent the man from getting elctrocuted they electrocute him. Hmmmmmmm.

You are nit picking here, just as you were when you made the initial statement, because my statement that you took issue with was "I don't know the whole story."
Which is exactly the same thing as "You don't know any of the story OTHER THAN the way it ended" OR "You don't know any of the story EXCEPT the way it ended"

You are grapsing at straws to disagree with me when part of what we are saying is the same damn thing. Which is what my point was when I said "BTW The way it ends IS part of the story."

I understand English perfectly. And what I hear is doublespeak and arguing for the sake of arguing, which I don't have any more time to spend participating in.

I think it was wrong, and you don't . Big damn deal. It is not necessary that everyone agree with you. I realize that may be a shock for some, but it is the truth.

There were enough cops. If they had to detain him they should've just held him down and cuffed him. Make him sit on his ass for a while and calm the shit down. Some fucko cop just wanted to try out his taser and it made a difficult situation even more complex.

depends what article you read.

http://www.8bm.com/diatribes/volume0...atribes430.htm

MANY say "Taser", i think they say "Stun Gun" to calm the situation down. This has caused a lot of headaches.

it doesnt change the fact that she was a 9 year old handcuffed. I have seen guys on COPS show, kicking windows, beating their head agaisnt the window of the cop car door, never seen them taser ANYONE on that show, but they taser a 9 year old girl for screaming and kicking?

makes a lot of sense.

heres a funny one too

http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...24/detail.html

A police officer used his Taser gun on a 68-year-old grandmother in her home Tuesday night, KMBC's Donna Pitman reported.

Louise Jones (pictured, left) said it happened after she pulled up to her house near 50th and Euclid and saw a police car. She honked, and an officer got out of the vehicle.

"He said he could give me a citation ticket for honking my horn. I said it was an accident. It's not like I laid on the horn; I honked, right in front of my house," Jones said.

Jones said the officer went to a call at another home, then returned to her house to give her a ticket for honking.

"He grabbed me and I jerked away from him, and he said, 'You assaulted me,'" Jones recalled.

Police said Jones wouldn't cooperate and hit the officer. That's when the officer pulled his Taser gun and shocked her, Pitman reported.

:1orglaugh

Damn. You've got to be fucking kidding me. :helpme

Jones said the officer shocked her twice in the chest with the weapon.

"I hollered and screamed because I thought it was a gun," she said.

Jones' husband, Fred, heard the commotion in his home of 40 years and confronted the officer. The husband and wife were both arrested and jailed. Jones was cited for misuse of a horn on a city street, and her husband was ticketed for interfering with an officer.

note she WAS NOT CHARGED with "assault on officer" if she HAD HIT HIM, she would have been charged with assault on officer.

the police lied about this story and were out of line.

So you think that the police should just let anyone into a disaster area who wants in? If the police want to ask someone a few questions and they get shitty with the police, should the police just back off and let them in? I think not. If you resist the police, something bad is going to happen to you. We all know that. Why anyone thinks that they are exempt is beyond me.

If the guy had a legit reason to be there he could have proven it. Instead he chose to get into a pushing match with the cops. I don't care if his entire family including his great, great aunt twice removed was there...he deserved what he got.

I think he is just trying to say that they handled the situation all wrong. There were atleast 6 officers there versus a family man with 3 kids in a mini van. I don't think he was much of a threat to them and they were WAY out of line using FORCE in a non-threatening situation. I did not even see the guy do anything wrong in that video....

Pig shit.

There wasn't enough video to tell. I didn't even see him get hit with the taser. That's part of my point though. We can't see what happened so we really can't judge.

the cops probably saved the 3 kids lives by stopping the moron, the area is blocked off for the safety of the people that live there and their properties. had they not stopped the guy, others would've tried to break through as well. someone would probably have been electrocuted or otherwise hurt by unsafe buildings or have their stuff stolen.

not a fan of cops, but that moron had it coming :2 cents:

You do NOT have the right to enter an area deemed unsafe by government officials. Downed power lines, building that could collapse and unsanitary water are just a few of the problems.
If you don't believe me, call your local government officials and ask them.

As far as smoking cigarettes, we here in Florida cannot smoke in restaurants. Is that your right? Nope. Sure isn't

You're confusing how the world is with how you think it ought to be. Funny thing about civilization. You have to come to the realization that you're not the only person in the world.

Say they WEREN'T protecting his ass. So
he and his kids enter his house, the roof collapses and everyone is dead. Now someone - probably you - would be complaining the local officials let people into a dangerous area. Hey, welcome to the concept of a DISASTER AREA.

That's right. I'll defend the law. You defend the lawbreaker. Use your tiny brain for once. Would you attempt to bring your children into a disaster area that has been
deemed dangerous an offlimits by local officials? The day AFTER the storm a lady stepped on a powerline and got herself killed. The man was wrong. He does not have the right to endanger the lives of his children by entering the area.

Agreed. These people are whining about what is in their imagination and not what can they see.

.. and cops wonder why most people don't like them.

Better watch it, babe, you'll have the martial law committee calling you stupid for what boils down to not agreeing with them, and acting like they are enlightened with the whole story and therefore are entitled to an opinion while do not, so you are not.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
I got mad at first, but then I decided to laugh it off, and stop defending that which does not have to be defended....my OPINION. God help them if they are ever in a situation with overzealous cops.

LOL, I can't see the video for some reason, but if the police officer was by himself, then the taser was probably called for if there was resistance, but if there were other officers, then they could have taken him without using excessive force, they deal with people like that guy everyday and they don't use a taser to subdue a suspect.

I didn't defend the use of the taser in the situation. I didn't comment on that at all. I have no idea. I can't see shit in the video.

What I said was that the guy should have never tried to pass the police barrier and that he was stupid for doing so.

I delt with your "bitch" Richy boy...a little more succinctly...more than ridiculous=pig shit.

Actually, I DON'T know if it was right or wrong. Because I don't know what happened.

You don't know what happened, and just think it was wrong. As far as anyone can tell, you think the police were wrong for using forced based only on the fact that they did use force. That's pretty ignorant, no?

FYI...the use of a taser does not equal excessive force. Using multiple officers to take the man to the ground could easily become the use of excessive force...if the "guy" were to be combative.

Happened to me plenty of times.

I've always obeyed what I was told by the Officer, and guess what .. Never been beaten/tasered or shot. Seems simple enough.

exactly.

a headline suggests a man was attacked by police for wanting to go home and people go bat shit in a big "us against them" uproar without so much as caring about the details and what happened exactly. at this point, its irrelevent to the conversation.

pretty dumb.

i am starting to believe in sheeple.

Bottom line is...one is required to obey a law enforcement officer...and it does not make any difference if you think the officer is wrong...or even know for a fact that the officer is legally wrong. There have been more than one court precedent set where an officer was ruled to be out of line and not following the letter of the law in his/her actions...and the charges placed against the individual were dismissed by the court...but the charges for resisting the officer stood even though the officer was not acting within the letter of the law. You must obey a law enforcement officer...or be willing to pay the legal consequences for not obeying.