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Old 08-18-2004, 08:31 AM   #1
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My apologies to Brandon/FightThisPatent

After meeting Brandon in Miami, I was confronted with the ugly truth.
He's a good dude and I have no doubt that he only had the best of intentions regarding collecting money to fight acacia.

Now that doesn't change my opinion that it wouldn't work. I would just like to say that I now understand that he wasn't trying anything underhanded to line his own pockets.
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Old 08-18-2004, 08:35 AM   #2
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wow..this is a first
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wow..this is a first
indeed it is.
don't expect it to happen twice. the exception proves the rule.
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Old 08-18-2004, 08:41 AM   #6
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I agree - Brandon is smart and is doing this because he sees what Acacia is doing. Plus he's cute

Sorry I missed you in FLL, Brandon! I saw you out of the corner of my eye at the GFY party, but Ron had us trapped with his "All the noobs I've abused" stories.....and I didn't see you again the whole show
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Old 08-18-2004, 08:52 AM   #9
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Yes, Brandon is a cutie isn't he....

Those of us who have known him for a long time, know that he is genuine. He cares very deeply about things, and is generous with his time in 'trying to make things happen. It is not unusual that a "do-gooder" in this biz is not taken very seriously, and a ulterior motive is always looked for. There are just so many scams out there, by uncrupulous people, it is hard to believe that 'anyone really cares about the industry.

After the verbel beating he took - I am surprised he is still here. Most would have said 'hell with ya....

Nice post 12Clicks....(I do think this may be a first:-)
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I missed Brandon live....

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After meeting Brandon in Miami, I was confronted with the ugly truth.
He's a good dude and I have no doubt that he only had the best of intentions regarding collecting money to fight acacia.


Despite what everyone says about you [ ] , you are a man of your word and a man of integrity...

Someone had asked me what i would do if I had met you, i said i would shake your hand because i knew your intentions were looking to expose scammers and that you thought i might be another one... and i did just that (the look on 12clicks face was priceless as he was shaking my hand and reading my badge to see Fight The Patent).

The Fight The Patent Foundation idea did fail.. having $36K in pledges was far short of the $250K that i felt would be enough to really fight against bad patents, but there just wasn't enough support (big thanks to all those that did pledge).

I hope people will channel that "F* Acacia' energy into supporting the IMPA and the Defense Group.

While things are going very badly for Acacia, they are still sucking up to $100K/month from the Defense Group members in order to drive the nail into the coffin.

Acacia is still proposing to roll up the entire industry into a class action lawsuit, and the Defense Group are fighting to shoot that plan down as well.

For those that followed the drama when i said i was stopping my full time efforts and going back to my ventures, you can see the fruits of that effort at http://www.2257lookup.com and http://www.t3report.com

If you keep up with http://www.fightthepatent.com or on the Yahoo board, you will know I have never stopped tracking or skewering Acacia and continue to reveal the truth about their efforts.

For those that didn't know, I have been providing technology to adult biz since 1997. I stopped going to the shows in 2000, and recently popped back up with 4 conventions this year.

You will be reading more about my efforts to use technology to solve problems in areas like helping to proactively shutdown CP websites through my work with ASACP. Helping webmasters and content producers with their 2257 record keeping requirements, and as always, watching out for Acacia and other potential patent threats.


Thanks Ron for the first ever posting of this kind.. i am sure there won't be too many like this.


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After meeting Brandon in Miami, I was confronted with the ugly truth.
He's a good dude and I have no doubt that he only had the best of intentions regarding collecting money to fight acacia.

Now that doesn't change my opinion that it wouldn't work. I would just like to say that I now understand that he wasn't trying anything underhanded to line his own pockets.
did you also meet Joesho?
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That is really big of you 12clicks.


Brandon/Fight the patent is a class act all the way.
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Many compliments to 12Clicks for making a public apology. Kudos for demonstrating such strength of character.

Brandon is indeed a great guy and I am certainly thankful for his incredible efforts.

We continue to smash Acacia but they are still quite determined and even though the stock has dropped precipitously, they are still up to the same old same old. They are still trying to get a Class Action suit against the industry and who knows what kind of trick they will pull next.

We will continue to fight them and be grateful for the people like Brandon who have stood shoulder to shoulder with us in that fight.
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I didn't get a chance to meet him but I did see him at the show...

If anyone is trying to figure out which of the twins is who... AaronM is the sexier one.




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I met brandon in vegas and he was just as 12 mentioned. thank you 12 for your statement and clearing the air.

sad when judgements are made based on the boards... hopefully 12 we'll meet at the next show

keep up the great work brandon
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Brandon is awesome and I'd love to discuss legal issues with him as I have two lawyers in my family. I am always interested in the psychology of people who are dedicated to a cause.

And he's a hot asian dude. ^_^
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Always good to hear that besides ones intellectual capacity, having cuteness on the list of ASSets always helps

You can give me an extra hug at vegas for missing me in FL


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Well now, if that don't beat all! (as Uncle Jessie would say)

12clicks, I never doubted you would do what you said you would do, and now you've done it. This whole thread is a credit to both you and Brandon.

I'm getting all verklempt.. somebody hand me a hanky!

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After meeting Brandon in Miami, I was confronted with the ugly truth.
He's a good dude and I have no doubt that he only had the best of intentions regarding collecting money to fight acacia.

Now that doesn't change my opinion that it wouldn't work. I would just like to say that I now understand that he wasn't trying anything underhanded to line his own pockets.
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Very impressive gesture 12Clicks


Brandon keep up the great work!
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LMAO Elli took the words right of my mouth... I am all emotional now... sniff sniff...

12Clicks... You ROCK
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Isn't it a beautiful thing, Jman? It's like world peace, only on a smaller scale.
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I could never figure out one thing.

The USPTO doesn't reexamine any patent that is already tied up in court, and that was his advertised proposal for the $250,000 concerning Acacia.

So even if it would have made it off the ground, it seemingly had a zero chance of bringing relief from Acacia anytime in the near future.
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I could never figure out one thing.

The USPTO doesn't reexamine any patent that is already tied up in court, and that was his advertised proposal for the $250,000 concerning Acacia.

So even if it would have made it off the ground, it seemingly had a zero chance of bringing relief from Acacia anytime in the near future.

You are correct, the USPTO will not intrude on current litigation.

But the current defendants still have legal bills to pay, and some of the proposed money would have gone to that.

In addition, Acacia is not the only patent that the adult industry should be concerned about. I have been saying for months there are many other patent holders watching Acacia's actions.

With a non-profit established, it would be on guard for the next ones to come (ie. be proactive) and also be reactive to the Acacia case in assisting webmasters. There are many patents that could be directly challenged at USPTO for a re-exam, BEFORE they come out swinging in litigation.

WHEN the next patentee comes in, you think webmasters are going to be prepared for it? Look at the defense group, they are spending their hard earned profits to help the industry.

They can easily settle for micro pennies on the dollar and allow Acacia to really steamroll over all the other businesses who aren't in a position to fight.

IMPA is positioning itself to be proactive with other issues (ie. 2257, business practices, etc) and i fully support their efforts.



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After the verbel beating he took - I am surprised he is still here. Most would have said 'hell with ya....

If i recall correctly, i wasn't just sitting there taking a whipping.





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It looks all sticky in there for some reason...
sorry, try the left pocket
eroswebmaster got the right pocket first........
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Old 08-18-2004, 04:44 PM   #46
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:05 PM   #47
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Isn't it a beautiful thing, Jman? It's like world peace, only on a smaller scale.
smaller scale?
you promised not to tell.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:09 PM   #48
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smaller scale?
you promised not to tell.
Everything is a matter of scale, my dear.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:17 PM   #49
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Everything is a matter of scale, my dear.
yeah, my big body thoughs everything else all out of proportion.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:19 PM   #50
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where's brandon's reply?
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