galleryseek

uh are you fucking stupid man? lol... the IQ level of your average GFY'er must be very fucking low, god damn.

All you did was just bash me and back nothing up.

Yes, it can be concluded that I would be proven WRONG if there were other similar attempts at "awareness" education that yielded no results.

What is so STUPID about that?!?!?!?! It's called logic, try using it sometime.

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detoxed

I never said it would happen, I might want it to happen, but I'm not dumb enough to think its going to happen that way. It will however be legalized within my lifetime.

detoxed

You are dragging us all down with you

detoxed

Want a failure example? Classes required for people who get DUI's. When you get a DUI you have to go to a class, usually several hours. Want stats on why its a failure?


"1.5 million people are arrested for DUI/DWI offenses each year and approximately 33% of these have at least one previous conviction. These multiple offenders create unique challenges for agencies because alcohol-related crimes require effective supervision, education and treatment. "


33% do it again. And thats just the # who get caught.




The people who would attend a marijuana class would be the ones wanting to smoke marijuana under your example. You think some stupid class is going to change their mind? They will sit through it, maybe sleep through it, and get their certificate and go buy some pot. Maybe 1% will change their mind. Who is going to pay for this class? Etc. Etc. Etc, its a fucking dumb idea.

galleryseek

oh, it's such a fucking dumb idea because it wouldn't have a 100% success rate? It'd be much more than 1% i can guarantee you that. And although it may not detur people, it might really limit the amount in which they consume which is a positive benefit.


your DUI example is too off topic. people who get DUI's are breaking the law intentionally without regard to safety... they're the ones that usually don't give a fuck regardless of "new information"

I'm sorry but just because you want everyone to smoke pot and don't want to believe that smoking pot isn't bad for you, doesn't mean you should continue to argue this.

I'm all for education and knowledge, clearly. You on the other hand simply just don't give a fuck. nice attitude bud.

detoxed

Lol, I give a perfect example and you say its not good enough. Your idea was stupid to begin with but I played along. Now I'm done, when you come up with something intelligent to say let me know. I'm all for education and knowledge too, but you cant force it upon someone by making them take a class, which would be given by people who constantly lie about the subject.

galleryseek

It was very very very far from perfect. And your pot-damaged brain must've made you forgot that I said it should be created not from just the government, but with a proven statistical foundation.

Pot is bad for you, BOTTOM LINE.. don't compare it to other things, that's just stupid...

Raising people's awareness is hardly a ridiculous idea and would only produce positive results.

Thank you and good game.

Mikey_219Inc

whoever voted no, go fuck yourself get drunk and continue to be an asshole.

i dont even smoke weed anymore but its ridiculous the tax money spent on the war on this harmless drug.

maybe some of that money could go to intelligence? we seem to need some ...

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detoxed

A mandatory class is much more than raising awareness you fucking moron. A proven statistical foundation? LOL

Its a ridiculous and stupid idea. You are dumb. Your thoughts are irrational and make no sense.

Living For Today

I dont think it should be legalised. If you want it in Australia that badly you know where to go where the law will turn a blind eye so you've gotta be a fuckup to get caught anyway.

galleryseek

How is it much more than raising awareness? lol. People are lazy as fuck and don't want to learn, you said it yourself, if they want to do something they should know every aspect of it, therefore creating something mandatory to inform them sounds like a very logical and reasonable idea to me. Why not you?

education and knowledge are sooooo totally irrational and stupid? wow.

You have the typical mentality of a pothead.

Pointless in arguing with you.

mardigras

People are lazy. You can grow all of your own food but most people are going to pick everything up at the store. You could make your own booze, but very few people do that.

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the fact of the matter is, cigarettes and alcohol are proven to kill more people than pot ever has or ever will. the only fact that pot isn't legal is because the governent hasn't prodcutize it yet. driving on alcohol and driving on pot are like night and day...how many times do you hear about a stoned dude on the news hitting someone...never...but you hear about drunks killing people daily. I am quite sure that there are almost as many people smoking dope as there are drinking. The diference is that the pot smokers are too lazy to get in their car and go anywhere. So the way I see it, much safer all around.

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detoxed

I havent smoked pot in over a month. You are the moron here. I never said education and knowledge are soooo totally irrational and stupid. You said that I said that. I never said if they want to do something they should know every aspect of it. You said I said that. You cant see how a mandatory class is much more than raising awareness? A TV commercial is raising awareness. A warning on a pack of cigarettes is raising awareness. Moron.

You have the typical mentality of a mildly retarded individual.

Pointless in arguing with you.
Pointless in arguing with you.

maxsweet

I just know in my neighbourhood we now have a cafe open with 8 - 12 different strains on the menu.

Been over 6 months with no harrassment or media attention. So PLEASE don't tell anyone

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mardigras

This is the farthest thing from the truth. The government pulled the plug on an incredible amount of hemp/marijuana products back in the 30's led by lobbiests for Dupont, who synthetically produced many of the items formerly from hemp. The government realized it's mistake during WWII...

http://www.crrh.org/hemptv/docs_victory.html

"Hemp for Victory" by the US Government, 1943, 14 minutes.
The US government's propaganda piece to restore hemp to help the war effort in World War II. After wiping out the hemp industry and agriculture both before and during the Great Depression, and with federal "marijuana" prohibition implemented in 1937 to help the petrochemical industry, cotton-growing states, and others, US need for fiber during WW II forces the USDA to re-introduce hemp to farmers with this film in 1943.

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galleryseek

haha, you haven't smoked in a month? apparently your brain is fried then.

Raising awareness isn't only LIMITED to passive methods. "Raising awareness" is a very general and broad topic. You can raise awareness through mandatory classes einstein.

sheesh. amazing.

detoxed

Apparently you are missing the point. MANDATORY CLASSES ARE MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE THAN JUST RAISING AWARENESS. I never said you cannot raise awareness through mandatory classes dipshit. Your reading comprehension skills are shit. Maybe smoking pot would help you.

retrograde

Legalize it, tax it, and improve education or healthcare with all the money you'll make from both the tax and the millions saved on prison construction.

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Please read my first post in this thread.

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detoxed

What was I going to say? Oh yeah... bump

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Most ignore my posts, or just wont fight em. Makes this not so fun.

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retrograde

I missed your post the first time I skimmed through. You made some very excellent points.

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CET

That is certainly true for fast food, but both alcohol and pot are healthy if used in moderation. What you're refering to is abuse, which is unhealthy no matter what you're talking about. Excessive drinking of water can be deadly.

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CET

I doubt it would detour anyone. Consider DARE. Ever since that program started, drug use is up and there is no data that DARE has done anything to decrease druge use.

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CET

Me too, but I'll just take that to mean that my arugments are bullet proof.

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CET

My problem with that is the assumption that our lack of performance in these areas is due to a lack of funding. Between just porkbarrelling and what it takes to run the IRS, 1/3 of our tax money is already spent. Then consider all the bullshit programs, bureaucracies, and departments that exist with no reason to exist.

Case in point, the newly formed Department of Homeland Security. All they need to do is merge the FBI and CIA into once department, and divide it into small departments based on internal or extrenal intelligence and have regular communication flow and unified management. Poof, DHS is obsolete and the redundant bureaucrats can be cut out to produce a leaner and more efficienet intelligence and security department. Heck, if you made this department related to the military, that would increase communication, cooperative efforts, military intelligence and reduce even more redunancies to make an even leaner department.

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galleryseek

ROFL

I'd LOVE to know where you got your information. Please, tell me now.

galleryseek

DARE was fucking stupid, I went through it. It focuses towards youngsters who have the attention span of a monkey in which all information is usually forgotten by highschool freshman year.

galleryseek

dude your mind has been destroyed.


Mandatory Classes, and Raising Awareness are two seperate levels.

Mandatory Classing is a MEANS/METHOD/TECHNIQUE by which raising awareness is achieved.

Here's an analogy for ya.

Raising Awareness = A car
Mandatory Classing = The Fuel

There are different grades of fuel, such as TV ads, Books, Classing, etc etc...

So how can "mandatory classes be much much more than raising awareness"? You're comparing apples n' oranges.

you can't compare the two bud. sorry.

galleryseek

I stand corrected with some research, although I didn't find anything relevant to smoking pot being beneficial aside from it helping those who have medical conditions.

detoxed

Yes you are wrong. Very wrong. Get it?

detoxed

DUDE! Of course they are two different levels. BUT YOU WERE SAYING CLASSES SHOULD BE MANDATORY, THEN SAYING the reason for the classes WAS TO RAISE AWARENESS

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No I think the government would make more money

mookienow

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Tipsy

The best thing about this thread continues to be Galleryseek digging that hole deeper and deeper and not having the intelligence to realise. Far too funny.

As for the original post it really is a no-brainer. No rational and intelligent person can argue for weed to continue to be illegal in a society where alchohol and tobacco are not just available but heavily promoted.

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